Mike Vick & Eagles agree 6yrs/$100 mil, $40 mil guaranteed
 

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All I can say is wow!

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[quote=12thMan;828928][url=http://www.nfl.com/]NFL.com - Official Site of the National Football League[/url]

All I can is wow![/quote]

It's gonna be sweet when he is injured by week three and making that money sitting on his couch.

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Somewhere at the PETA headquarters heads just exploded all over the place.

Hope it works out as well for them as our $100 million guy worked for us!

Seriously huge risk for the iggles when it comes to injury and guaranteed money.

Hope they shell out to Jackson too, then there system goes kaboom

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Umm...so this is Vick's....wait for it...second $100 million contract. Unreal.

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I am happy for him. He personifies redemption and I doubt he will disappoint.

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Good for him!

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[quote=12thMan;828931]Somewhere at the PETA headquarters heads just exploded all over the place.[/quote]

:laughing-

Wonder how much he's going to donate to charity.

And the Vick comeback is complete. This'll be much sweeter when he gets injured and/or doesn't repeat numbers wise from last year.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;828932]Hope it works out as well for them as our $100 million guy worked for us!

Seriously huge risk for the iggles when it comes to injury and guaranteed money.

Hope they shell out to Jackson too, then there system goes kaboom[/quote]

I don't think it's even remotely fair to compare McNabb to Vick. McNabb was already aging, banged up, and past his prime when he arrived here.

Vick is still a young man that is playing like a young man and is just starting to hit his stride as a pro, if he continues at the pace he did last year. Vick is easily worth the money if he can keep performing like he did last year. I doubt he disappoints.

I see the negative firestorm around the net. Haters are gonna come out of the woodwork now. Factor away Vick's time in Prison, and you have the same situation as Peyton Manning; a 100 million dollar contract.

Not trying to open the Michael Vick Prison debate again, but i seriously think thats the only reason why people are bitching about his contract now....If he would have never went to prison, would people think he is worth the money? I think so.

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I have been impressed and pleased with the way he has handled himself. But cynic in me still says let's see what he does once he gets his big contract.

I think I agree with saden, I doubt he'll disappoint. But now we get to see the real Mike Vick, the guy who doesn't have to toe the company line to earn a payday.

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I dont hate MV actually I like him and always have on the field... Dude is a baller and paid his time for sure

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So this is Eli's deal, basically.

He's overpaid of course, but not at a level we've never seen before.

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Eagles don't usually hand out bad deals, first time for everything I guess.

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Per JLC, Deal is not backloaded with fillers - legit chance to earn $16.7M/year

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I wonder when we sign Beck to a deal like this?

Seriously, I don't like it, I don't like Vick, I don't like the Eagles and the Cowboys suck too!

I don't think he'll disappoint in particular, but he might get hurt if the o-line doesn't protect him. Sure he'll run, but eventually that catches up to him.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;828949]I don't think it's even remotely fair to compare McNabb to Vick. McNabb was already aging, banged up, and past his prime when he arrived here.

Vick is still a young man that is playing like a young man and is just starting to hit his stride as a pro, if he continues at the pace he did last year. Vick is easily worth the money if he can keep performing like he did last year. I doubt he disappoints.

I see the negative firestorm around the net. Haters are gonna come out of the woodwork now. Factor away Vick's time in Prison, and you have the same situation as Peyton Manning; a 100 million dollar contract.

Not trying to open the Michael Vick Prison debate again, but i seriously think thats the only reason why people are bitching about his contract now....If he would have never went to prison, would people think he is worth the money? I think so.[/quote]For the last time, 31 is not young.

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Wow..
Good for him.

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[quote=GTripp0012;828967]For the last time, 31 is not young.[/quote]

especially for an undersized guy who likes to get out and run, and has a porous offensive line. We shall see. I like redemption stories. BUT I still have apprehensions about his game.

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Good for MV.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;828949][B]I don't think it's even remotely fair to compare McNabb to Vick. McNabb was already aging, banged up, and past his prime when he arrived here.[/B]

Vick is still a young man that is playing like a young man and is just starting to hit his stride as a pro, if he continues at the pace he did last year. Vick is easily worth the money if he can keep performing like he did last year. I doubt he disappoints.

I see the negative firestorm around the net. Haters are gonna come out of the woodwork now. Factor away Vick's time in Prison, and you have the same situation as Peyton Manning; a 100 million dollar contract.

Not trying to open the Michael Vick Prison debate again, but i seriously think thats the only reason why people are bitching about his contract now....If he would have never went to prison, would people think he is worth the money? I think so.[/quote]

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I think he's referring to Albert Haynesworth, fyi.

[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;828949]I don't think it's even remotely fair to compare McNabb to Vick. McNabb was already aging, banged up, and past his prime when he arrived here.

Vick is still a young man that is playing like a young man and is just starting to hit his stride as a pro, if he continues at the pace he did last year. Vick is easily worth the money if he can keep performing like he did last year. I doubt he disappoints.

I see the negative firestorm around the net. Haters are gonna come out of the woodwork now. Factor away Vick's time in Prison, and you have the same situation as Peyton Manning; a 100 million dollar contract.

Not trying to open the Michael Vick Prison debate again, but i seriously think thats the only reason why people are bitching about his contract now....If he would have never went to prison, would people think he is worth the money? I think so.[/QUOTE]

Who mentioned McNabb? Factoring away prison time(a bit of the stretch) it still is not the same as Manning. Manning/Brady et al have made their teams perennial contenders, and their loss would devastate their teams. Vick is a role player, who got a very lucky break to go to a very stable situation and one that possibly let's him excel.

My point in my quote was that the normally frugal iggles have really splurged this year and I hope it leads them into the type of cap quandry that we have been in the last few years.

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One good season, not even a full season, gets you $100 million? Crazy.

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[quote=GTripp0012;828967]For the last time, 31 is not young.[/quote]

Sitting out two years does make you comparably young. Plus outside of Chris Johnson no one worth a damn will be faster than him.

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It's a deal that Vick "earned" in the NFL sense although everyone knows it's too much money. The Eagles didn't really have a choice but to make the deal but in the end they'll regret the contract in 3 years (depending on structure obvi). Congrats to MV for delivering after all the crap in his life. Glad it wasn't us though long term.

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Man.. So if Beck has a Above Average year this year, do we give him an extension like this? Of course not for this amount, but you get what i'm saying.

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Well Vick was a proven NFL commodity before he went to jail. Yes I know all of his flaws, and I know he was not always great. That being said, he was one of the most electrifying players in the NFL for 5 or 6 years. He brought the Falcons to the NFC Championship game. He was and still is a freak talent. The Eagles were going to pay the guy insane money this year with the franchise tag so they figured they would get this done.

Beck will never get a contract like this.

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Michael Vick (up until last year) could never win a game with just his arm. That's the kind of QB that's needed in the NFL, which is exactly why I believe guys like Vince Young, Cam Newtwon, Tim Tebow and many other run oriented college QBs won't succeed in the NFL. The scrambling will win you some games, and makes nice for selling jerseys and ESPN highlights, but it's not going to get you to the big show.

I personally don't think MV is going to last the full year. I believe their OL is still problematic and he still has a propensity to run a bit.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;828982]Who mentioned McNabb? Factoring away prison time(a bit of the stretch) it still is not the same as Manning. Manning/Brady et al have made their teams perennial contenders, and their loss would devastate their teams. Vick is a role player, who got a very lucky break to go to a very stable situation and one that possibly let's him excel.

My point in my quote was that the normally frugal iggles have really splurged this year and I hope it leads them into the type of cap quandry that we have been in the last few years.[/quote]

I guess the Playoff win against Farve's Pakers back when Vick was on a bad Falcons teams was Vick ROLE PLAYING? No. Vick carried that team on his shoulders.
Vick is a dynamic player that if he can stay healthy will do very well. That is a big if. His playing style of running and holding onto the ball as long as he does can get him killed if he is not careful. But he is not a role player. He is not a conventional pocket passer and that is why he is misunderstood by the so called experts.

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Along the lines of this signing and Vick's ability/likelihood of staying healthy...why is the iggles o-line giving up so many sacks? I thought they invested in two big-time tackles over the last couple of seasons? I mean Philly is an organization I expect to make sense, and it makes no sense to pay insane money to a QB when you haven't put the pieces in place to protect him...

...that said I think a healthy Vick is worth every penny of the contract.

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A part of me--- a very, very small part of me-- would like to the see the Eagles represent the NFC in the Super Bowl, provided the Redskins don't make it.

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I give him two years on that contract and then he will either restructure or be cut. In other words he will not live up the contract...........

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[quote=saden1;828935]I am happy for him. He personifies redemption and I doubt he will disappoint.[/quote]


...he also "personifies a "DOG KILLER".:bs:

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[quote=Giantone;829027]...he also "personifies a "DOG KILLER".:bs:[/quote]

Please don't take this the wrong way, but I want to ask you a question? I am done debating on Vick and Prison and all that, but i have seen some of your posts about Vick, and i really get the assumption that you wouldn't feel as negatively about Vick if he had only killed a human being.

Not trying to judge dude at all, but I've talked to alot of these Michael Vick haters at my new job, and the consensus among them, is being that Animals now hold surperior rights to a human being (you know the animal bill of rights and constitution and all that), If Vick would have killed a person, be it in murder or drunk driving, he would have gotten off lighter in the eyes of the fans.

I'm kidding about the animal bill of rights man, but I'm serious, among all my travels, and I've been outside the U.S., I swear this must be the only country on earth where we give animals in some cases more rights than humans. We will spend a billion dollars on animal rescue places and shit like that, but homeless people are treated like garbage and nobody gives a damn.

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Two yrs, ago, no one would have believed Vick would ever strut that kind of weight again. Good for him.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;829029]Please don't take this the wrong way, but I want to ask you a question? I am done debating on Vick and Prison and all that, but i have seen some of your posts about Vick, and i really get the assumption that you wouldn't feel as negatively about Vick if he had only killed a human being.

Not trying to judge dude at all, but I've talked to alot of these Michael Vick haters at my new job, and the consensus among them, is being that Animals now hold surperior rights to a human being (you know the animal bill of rights and constitution and all that), If Vick would have killed a person, be it in murder or drunk driving, he would have gotten off lighter in the eyes of the fans.

I'm kidding about the animal bill of rights man, but I'm serious, among all my travels, and I've been outside the U.S., I swear this must be the only country on earth where we give animals in some cases more rights than humans. We will spend a billion dollars on animal rescue places and shit like that, but homeless people are treated like garbage and nobody gives a damn.[/quote]
You make some nice points SS . I hope he does alot of good with that $$$ , maybe help homeless/ rescue shelters ( Human and Animal ) I guess we will see what kind of man he is over the next few years .

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[quote=12thMan;828928][url=http://www.nfl.com/]NFL.com - Official Site of the National Football League[/url]

All I can say is wow![/quote]

me too, time will tell, but this seems crazy high for a guy that most likely won't play all 16 games.

[QUOTE=SolidSnake84;829029]Please don't take this the wrong way, but I want to ask you a question? I am done debating on Vick and Prison and all that, but i have seen some of your posts about Vick, and i really get the assumption that you wouldn't feel as negatively about Vick if he had only killed a human being.

Not trying to judge dude at all, but I've talked to alot of these Michael Vick haters at my new job, and the consensus among them, is being that Animals now hold surperior rights to a human being (you know the animal bill of rights and constitution and all that), If Vick would have killed a person, be it in murder or drunk driving, he would have gotten off lighter in the eyes of the fans.

I'm kidding about the animal bill of rights man, but I'm serious, among all my travels, and I've been outside the U.S., I swear this must be the only country on earth where we give animals in some cases more rights than humans. We will spend a billion dollars on animal rescue places and shit like that, but homeless people are treated like garbage and nobody gives a damn.[/QUOTE]

I think it takes a very sick person to do the things he did. Product of environment and all. I don't think a person who has done that can inherently change. He changed because he got caught and im not saying he shouldn't be accepted for it but I don't think he should be crowned.

There is a difference between killing an animal and abusing it to death.

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Just not sure what the rush was to lock him up. If I were the Eagles I would have made him prove himself another season. Prove he can stay healthy over 16 games, and not fade out after a hot start.

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[quote=Mattyk;829054]Just not sure what the rush was to lock him up. If I were the Eagles I would have made him prove himself another season. Prove he can stay healthy over 16 games, and not fade out after a hot start.[/quote]

This.

In fact they could have franchised him next year again, and seen what develops. With his style, and their line, and our division, he easily could get a season or career ending injury, and then they have really put themselves in a hole, imo.