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MTK 01-05-2005 07:24 PM

Lynch fined 75K!
 
For his hit on Dallas Clark last weekend, his next offense will bring a $500,000 fine! Wow

What do you guys think? Is this fair?

Daseal 01-05-2005 07:25 PM

After 4 offenses - yeah. John Lynch is a punk.

Gmanc711 01-05-2005 07:48 PM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]For his hit on Dallas Clark last weekend, his next offense will bring a $500,000 fine! Wow

What do you guys think? Is this fair?[/QUOTE]


I think its fair. Its about time they came hard on this guy before he really hurts someone.

mizzo skins man 01-05-2005 08:07 PM

He's been cheap shotting fools for years. It's about time it really starts to hit him where it hurts... his pocket book.

sportscurmudgeon 01-05-2005 09:11 PM

Everyone here can sound off about Lynch and his fine and how he is a "punk" right now, but if Sean Taylor does not clean up his act, he'll be getting the same fines pretty soon. And when that happens, it will be just as fair and just and deserved as the one for Lynch is now.

There are only two ways to stop that kind of stuff on the field and the NFL has gone the "economic route". Do it repeatedly and we'll make the fine so enormous that you won't do it again...

There is another way but that would be far too creative for the league to adopt...

MTK 01-05-2005 10:47 PM

I knew SC was going to work Taylor in to his take on Lynch! LOL

Seriously though, I agree Taylor is headed down the same road. He's clearly become a guy the league has their eye on.

It's not a matter of if, but when Taylor lays someone out and draws a substantial fine. When it does happen I wonder if we'll call him a punk or a beast.

Damn I'm starting to think like SC LOL

jordanz301 01-05-2005 10:49 PM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]For his hit on Dallas Clark last weekend, his next offense will bring a $500,000 fine! Wow

What do you guys think? Is this fair?[/QUOTE] i dnt think its fair personally i mean i know he has 4 offenses tell me the truth arent guys scared to get hit by him or not the aggresion that he has wen he plays scares people and affects there game that is also kind of the style that sean taylor has which is aggression to sow intimidation nd as we know intimidation can go a long wai in ur gameplan

SKINSnCANES 01-05-2005 10:55 PM

Im hoping Taylor will be getting more picks in the future and wont have to rely on his hitting as much. But yea, the leauge is watching him

Daseal 01-05-2005 11:47 PM

Taylor has yet to try to injure someone going head to head with them. That brings nothing but bad. He's hit them hard, and some risky tackles (high tackles) but nothing vicious. You try to slow em' down, not kill em.

SmootSmack 01-06-2005 12:10 AM

Can anyone tell me what exactly the hit was, because I didn't see it. And I'm just wondering how it compares to Donovan Darius' clothesline of a couple of weeks ago. Because he was a first time offender and got fined 75K, then shouldn't a four-time offender be fined more?

Gmanc711 01-06-2005 01:23 AM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]I knew SC was going to work Taylor in to his take on Lynch! LOL

Seriously though, I agree Taylor is headed down the same road. He's clearly become a guy the league has their eye on.

It's not a matter of if, but when Taylor lays someone out and draws a substantial fine. When it does happen I wonder if we'll call him a punk or a beast.

Damn I'm starting to think like SC LOL[/QUOTE]

I defintley agree. Everytime I see him do that Clothsline I just think of that Donnavan Darrius hit on Robert Fergeson. He's gonna get a nice chunk of change taken out of his pocket eventually.

MTK 01-06-2005 08:38 AM

Lynch's hit wasn't as 'dirty' as Darius's was, it was a pretty solid hit except helmet was involved. I don't think it was intentional on Lynch's part, that's the way he plays the game, at 110 mph.

cpayne5 01-06-2005 09:06 AM

I've got an idea, why don't all the players slap a couple flags on their hips so they can just play powderpuff from now on.

BDBohnzie 01-06-2005 10:26 AM

thank you cpayne...my thoughts exactly...

it's amazing how people make a big deal about hits like Lynch's...however, back in the day when there was little to no protection, guys flew around like that all the time. the one example i can think of is Bedarnik laying out Frank Gifford...guys like Butkus and Sam Huff flew around just like Lynch, and we praise them for their efforts...look at how "dirty" the Raiders of the 70s were...yet, nowadays, with state of the art technology and protection, we're concerned for players' safety...which is valid, but not to the point where someone is a punk for doing his job...John Lynch makes one big hit and people are all over him...

these guys don't go game in and game out thinking, "i'm gonna kill someone today" (Kill in the literal sense, not in the war cry adrealine sense)...they know each player has families to support, and lives to lead...

here's the thing...football is a dangerous sport. players go in knowing this...

what's more dangerous than those hits...playing on astroturf...just ask Troy Aikman and Michael Irvin

cpayne5 01-06-2005 10:31 AM

Shoot, Lynch isn't even the most dangerous player on the team. There's a whole UNIT on that team that is coached to do things that routinely end seasons and careers.

MTK 01-06-2005 11:01 AM

What would you guys recommend? No fine for Lynch at all? He [i]did[/i] lead with his helmet with isn't legal. Nothing wrong with a hard hit, just keep it clean.

skinsfanthru&thru 01-06-2005 12:02 PM

[QUOTE=smootsmack]Can anyone tell me what exactly the hit was, because I didn't see it. And I'm just wondering how it compares to Donovan Darius' clothesline of a couple of weeks ago. Because he was a first time offender and got fined 75K, then shouldn't a four-time offender be fined more?[/QUOTE]

Lynch launched himself at Dallas Clark helmet first and hit Clark right under the chin strap. I'm pretty sure Lynch even said he hit Clark the way he did to send a message to the Colts, and now the Broncos dbs r talking trash about the colts receivers who torched them for 40+points last year.

All this talk about football being a violent sport and fines like this causing a player not to play at full speed and hit people in similar ways as if the fines are a bad thing? Players have to stop leading with the helmet, because it's becoming far more common instead of using the shoulder or heaven forbid their arms. These fines not only are to discourage the use of spearing and launching for the safety of the receivers but also the defensive players as well. If there isn't a change in the way defensive players, someone is going to die sooner than later during a football game.

cpayne5 01-06-2005 12:22 PM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]What would you guys recommend? No fine for Lynch at all? He [i]did[/i] lead with his helmet with isn't legal. Nothing wrong with a hard hit, just keep it clean.[/QUOTE]
The NFL has gotta do what it's gotta do, I guess. But, I think that this is a violent sport and as such, a shroud of contact rules should not be forced upon it to give it a softer appearance. Just let them play football, in the violent way it was intended.

Daseal 01-06-2005 06:01 PM

I understand from time to time you'll have a hit that's not to intentionally hurt someone. Your helmet will hit first if they cut because that's just how you hit.

Lynch was trying to hurt that guy, fine him. Why do we lean towards caution now? Maybe it's because players that used to fly around and play like that are dying at age 43. Maybe that's why.

cpayne5 01-07-2005 08:23 AM

[QUOTE=Daseal]Lynch was trying to hurt that guy, fine him. Why do we lean towards caution now? Maybe it's because players that used to fly around and play like that are dying at age 43. Maybe that's why.[/QUOTE]

Why have you developed a habit of asking questions and then answering it with the next sentence? I just don't know.

Lynch wasn't trying to hurt the guy, that's just plain rediculous. He was playing football the way he's been taught and coached all his life (all out).

It's a bit more than leaning towards caution at this point. It's not the hitting that puts these guys' bodies in such a sad state at early ages; a lot of the time its the time spent in the weight room that does this.

BDBohnzie 01-07-2005 09:07 AM

i agree with the fine and how the fine system is structured...however, people make such a big deal out of it...the guy was doing his job. the players realize that if they get out of hand, they will be fined...this is why it doesn't happen that often...

and those guys dying at 43 is a bit of a stretch...it's the hazard in participating in that job/sport.

the Darius hit was brutal, but not dirty. robert ferguson even said so himself, that it is part of the game...

SmootSmack 01-07-2005 10:38 AM

[QUOTE=Daseal]Why do we lean towards caution now? Maybe it's because players that used to fly around and play like that are dying at age 43. Maybe that's why.[/QUOTE]

Are you somehow trying to tie this hit to Reggie White's death?

Daseal 01-07-2005 03:39 PM

Not Smootsmack - I just happened to use his age which for some reason popped into my head. Football players do die strangely early often times.

Cpayne: It's not like Lynch hit him in the shoulder pads and slid up. He put his helmet right to his from the begining, and it didn't look like he was aiming anywhere else. Especially for a guy with a history. It was a dirty hit and I bet he'll think before he goes helmet to helmet again. If he hit the guy and slid up, that's not his fault.

SKINSnCANES 01-07-2005 05:20 PM

I didnt see the hit. But this game is played at full speed. Its not like the guy was standing there and lynch had his choice or where to hit him. Usually when you hit a guy in the head you are on the run and diving, or the guy goes over the middle and you are smacking right into him. Either way you dont have a lot of control. You can try to go low or something but these guys are trying to make plays. Its a contact sport, shit happens. Dirty hits happen after the play in my opinion, nothing is dirty during the play.

cpayne5 01-07-2005 05:26 PM

[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES]Dirty hits happen after the play in my opinion, nothing is dirty during the play.[/QUOTE]

That is a great line.


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