The Running Game
 

Well, with so much Beck v. Grossman, I'm kinda tired of the negativity after a win, even though yeah I don't like Grossman either. But that's neither here nor there.

Just wanted to say I was really impressed with the run game today and hopefully we can see more of that against the Eagles. I wish that Torain was the premiere back, but I don't mind Hightower starting and switching reps with Helu and ATV. I also wish we'd run the ball just a smidgen more than we seem to be the past couple of games.

But yeah, the RBs really made me proud.

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Great thread -- it's unreal man. Every week, we are toasting another of our RBs. Great to see Torain come back strong from his injury and justify his position on the roster. Rams' run D isn't very good but that just means the Skins running game did what it was supposed to. Let's hope it continues like this all season.

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Like I said on your "who leads the offense"...its gotta be the running game. Always runs the Shanny offense. We clearly see when we throw the ball, we cant get it done period.

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Yeah our running game was effective today. The more effective it is and the less we put the game on Grossman's shoulders the better this season.

Hightower hasn't looked all that effective yet though. Not sure whether it's the blocking or him, but it looked like two different offenses when it was him v. Torain out there. And Helu remains a nice change of pace back. If we see more of Torain, I think it'll mean less of Hightower. Helu looks to be constant as the change of pace back though.

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Great problem to have.
Who's our next starting RB?

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It's fine if Hightower takes some time to get going -- love the change of pace with Helu and HT should get it sorted out by midseason and we'll have three starting RBs.

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I think if we had had the same success running the ball last week, we would have won the game. Given the talent we have at RB, our focus should be to run the game first and then pass. If this doesn't happen, then we have the same problem as before....a coaching staff that refuses to adjust to the teams' talent (or lack of in the case of the QBs).

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One thing's for sure if we can't run the ball our offense is in trouble. We need the run game to consistently succeed on offense.

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I hope that Kyle isn't limiting certain plays for Hightower and expanding the rest of the playbook for Helu and Torain. It just seems like Hightower is getting the bulk of the outside stretch-zone runs which has been getting stuffed since week one.

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Good Thread. Torain ran hard, and these were the same exact holes the O-line opened up for Hightower the last 3 games, and he was mostly ineffective. You have to wonder if Hightower was the problem running the ball, instead of the O-Line not run blocking well. IMO, Hightower's the 3rd best Runner, but the he's the better all around RB. He doesn't break many tackles, and doesn't have great vision, but he can pass protect, which is why he hasn't been [B]officially[/B] benched.

Hope to see Torain start against the Eagles, with Helu being the change of pace back. Hightower's PT will diminish because he's becoming more of a liability running the ball.

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Just checked out the stats - net 196 yards on the ground at 4.9 a carry. That is one hell of an impressive run game, should be milking that and building on it for the rest of the season.

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A lot of these plays are going over Trent's side too. He's played really well the last couple of weeks. And no sacks today on Rexy if I recall.

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[quote=12thMan;843747]A lot of these plays are going over Trent's side too. He's played really well the last couple of weeks. And no sacks today on Rexy if I recall.[/quote]

Great point -- after the questionable game against the Giants, Silverback has been playing really well meaning he took some of that criticism to heart and got better which is awesome

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Hightower's not healthy. What exactly is up I don't know. But I know something is up

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Love our run game folks, it's nice to be able to rotate like we do. Young guys that gutless hard!!! 3-1 good run game is the key

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Great seeing Torain out there though, running with a purpose.

Considering how well running backs play under Mike Shanahan it must suck to be cut by him. It's like if you can't make it as a running back playing for MS...you probably can't make it at all.

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[quote=SmootSmack;843750]Hightower's not healthy. What exactly is up I don't know. But I know something is up[/quote]

Whatever it is, I'll assume it's affecting him. Luckily we have our bye next week which should give him some extra rest.

Also I concur on Trent Williams. That's 3 weeks that for the most part (excluding his 4th quarter against D.Ware last week) he's played really well. I remember James Hall had a pretty good game against him in our matchup against them last year, and James Hall was pretty quiet today.

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You know who else was pretty solid today was...well, I guess it's were not was...Kory L. and Chris Chester.

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Case and point, Clinton Portis, Larry Johnson, and Willie Parker.

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[quote=SmootSmack;843750]Hightower's not healthy. What exactly is up I don't know. But I know something is up[/quote]

oh crap .. that's not good, hope it's not too serious

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[quote=rbanerjee23;843765]oh crap .. that's not good, hope it's not too serious[/quote]

No it's nothing serious. He's just not 100% to be carrying the load full time right now

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I agree with the Hightower "injury" .. he has ran different in past couple weeks .. HOWEVER .. the bottom line is freaking great .. Shanny has done it again .. he has built a team around an O-Line that can run his scheme ... Torrain was a surprise today and just looked great like he left off right from last year ... Helu is just unreal and is going to be a hell of a lot of fun to watch grow over the next few years ... It's such a great mix I'm speechless .. we can really pound the rock, Kyle just needs to know that we can keep doing that when we have a lead and shorten the game ... hmmm great defense .. solid O & D lines ... depth ... great running game .. sound like the keys to something ??? Yep, Success ... 3-1 .. go Cardinals !

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reputed redskins hatter said something in the postgame i agree with.

hightower stretches everything to the outside
helu cutbacks every chance he gets
ATV looks for the 1st cut and turns up field

it seems like with hightower, he almost always keeps stretching the play until hes on the sideline. what happened to that beautiful cutback run he had against the ravens 1st team D? helu is good no doubt but ATV seem to be just right. 1 cut turn upfield and lower the shoulder.

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Offensive lines should replace running backs in fantasy football. Only give up a certain amount of sacks, you get points, give up to many sacks, loose points. Pave the way for your running back points.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;843784]Offensive lines should replace running backs in fantasy football. Only give up a certain amount of sacks, you get points, give up to many sacks, loose points. Pave the way for your running back points.[/quote]

+1

Would there be enough OLs to divide between among a league though?

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Torain was one of the few bright spots last year. The guy runs like he's running from the cops. Good to see him back in there.

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[quote=SmootSmack;843750]Hightower's not healthy. What exactly is up I don't know. But I know something is up[/quote]

Can't agree with that. I think it's the playcalling or maybe Hightower is giving the stretch run outside it's chance to develop and it never does. Even the one or two runs to the outside for Torain went for very little to nothing. I can only remember Helu gaining significant yardage on the same type of play (all-season) once or twice. I do wish Torain had Hightower's more durable body or Hightower had Torain's vision.

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[quote=skinsfan69;843813]Torain was one of the few bright spots last year. The guy runs like he's running from the cops. Good to see him back in there.[/quote]

Racist statement.

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Torrain was impressive, definately seems to be a Skins style back...I hope our FB get's well soon...imagine him power blocking for Torrain at the goalline.
I don't think Hightower can do "power rushing" the way Torrain can.

Oh yeah...after 4 games have you guys notices the dramatic improvement in the interior line?...particularly at Center?

Have you guys seen the Center pushed back 5-10 times a game this year?
The Skins addressed one of our greatest weaknesses and boy...what a difference!

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[quote=mooby;843726]One thing's for sure if we can't run the ball our offense is in trouble. We need the run game to consistently succeed on offense.[/quote]

This team reminds me of the Titans before their recent collapse. Run the ball, get after the QB, do just enough through the air to win.

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[quote=diehard;843814]Can't agree with that. I think it's the playcalling or maybe Hightower is giving the stretch run outside it's chance to develop and it never does. Even the one or two runs to the outside for Torain went for very little to nothing. I can only remember Helu gaining significant yardage on the same type of play (all-season) once or twice. I do wish Torain had Hightower's more durable body or Hightower had Torain's vision.[/quote]

I don't know what you're disagreeing about exactly. I'm telling you he's banged up. I'm not guessing that he is. He is

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[quote=skinsnut;843819]Torrain was impressive, definately seems to be a Skins style back...I hope our FB get's well soon...imagine him power blocking for Torrain at the goalline.
I don't think Hightower can do "power rushing" the way Torrain can.

Oh yeah...after 4 games have you guys notices the dramatic improvement in the interior line?...particularly at Center?

Have you guys seen the Center pushed back 5-10 times a game this year?
The Skins addressed one of our greatest weaknesses and boy...what a difference![/quote]

addressed it in house as well. good to see. while not an injury replacement i like that "next man up" philosophy. i know rabach went back to the ravens but with birk coming back then gurode coming on and now playing guard for them, and playing it well, im not sure he will ever start again barring major injuries. in fact, he might have been cut by the ravens.

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SS - do the networks replay touchdowns of fantasy relevant players more than they do non-relevant fantasy players? i was sitting at a bar with 5 tvs with 5 different games on in front of me and i saw that dez bryant td a zillion times compared to other tds.

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[quote=SmootSmack;843843]I don't know what you're disagreeing about exactly[B]. I'm telling you he's banged up. I'm not guessing that he is. He is[/B][/quote]

CAN HE PLAY!?!
[IMG]http://i1.ytimg.com/vi/DH-w16huESg/default.jpg[/IMG]

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[quote=Dirtbag59;843856]CAN HE PLAY!?!
[/quote]

Was that nudity in a Youtube video?

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[quote=mooby;843859]Was that nudity in a Youtube video?[/quote]

......................um
[YT]41rdU-3fiMA[/YT]

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[quote=mooby;843859]Was that nudity in a Youtube video?[/quote]

pasties, no?

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[quote=over the mountain;843854]SS - do the networks replay touchdowns of fantasy relevant players more than they do non-relevant fantasy players? i was sitting at a bar with 5 tvs with 5 different games on in front of me and i saw that dez bryant td a zillion times compared to other tds.[/quote]

No. It was a great catch by Bryant, that's all

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[quote=over the mountain;843783]reputed redskins hatter said something in the postgame i agree with.

hightower stretches everything to the outside
helu cutbacks every chance he gets
ATV looks for the 1st cut and turns up field

it seems like with hightower, he almost always keeps stretching the play until hes on the sideline. what happened to that beautiful cutback run he had against the ravens 1st team D? helu is good no doubt but ATV seem to be just right. 1 cut turn upfield and lower the shoulder.[/quote]

I thought that was a pretty accurate observation. Was good to see Torain back in action. I said last year I thought he was the best back on the team and I still feel that way.

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[quote=T.A.P.O.A.F.O.R.;843876]pasties, no?[/quote]

It could've been, I was only paying minimal attention. Didn't look like pasties though.