Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo
 

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Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo
 

Not yet. Today showed me that Orakpo is the better rusher and it's not just because of the sacks. Don't get me wrong Kerrigan is easily a favorite to win DROY but the idea of him being better then Orakpo might have been a bit premature.

Bottom line though is that it's great to even be able to debate such a topic.

Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo
 

Now this is the kinda hypothetical thread I can get behind.

Honestly, if Kerrigan does surpass Orakpo in terms of making plays, it doesn't matter. The only thing that matters to me is that we lock them up so they can play together for the next decade because it's obvious they feed off each other, and make each other better. I love both of them. I hope they never leave, I hope they are Redskins until the day they retire. We as a team have not had the luxury of having two young, ballin ass bookend pass rushers like them in such a long time, and I want to enjoy them for the next decade, minimum.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;843931]^Thread[/quote]

well he didnt surpass him today. Orakpo was a mutherf*ckin beast out there. I really dont care, but both guys should excellent players, they got good fire and really want to win. Both these guys could be at worst are borderline probowlers, which is saying alot. Hope these guys can remain healthy.

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Not sure why it matters if he does or doesn't, we have two beasts at OLB.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;843937]Not yet. Today showed me that Orakpo is the better rusher and it's not just because of the sacks. Don't get me wrong Kerrigan is easily a favorite to win DROY but the idea of him being better then Orakpo might have been a bit premature.

[B]Bottom line though is that it's great to even be able to debate such a topic.[/B][/quote]

This, ten times this. Also want to add it's great to have 3 excellent running backs that are all young and can contribute. Sorry James Davis, someone had to be the odd man out in this situation, and it's you. But if you were worth keeping around anyways, you'dve been kept.

Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo
 

Harrison and Woodley? Same for us

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[quote=skinsfaninok;843947]Harrison and Woodley? Same for us[/quote]

Mann and Manley :D

Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo
 

Once again, fans not content with having two good players in one position :doh:

Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo
 

They are both great players, Orakpo can rush the passer slightly better, Kerrigan has a knack for creating turnovers. We are lucky to have both and at this rate, if Kerrigan continues to play the way he's been playing, he will be the defensive NFC ROTY.

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[quote=Ruhskins;843958]Once again, fans not content with having two good players in one position :doh:[/quote]

Technically it's two positions. So having two premier pass rushers in two positions shouldn't be a case of having excess "ballin."

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[quote=Ruhskins;843958]Once again, fans not content with having two good players in one position :doh:[/quote]

No, this is just a probe into people's minds and how they view players. Had I posted this thread after the draft, I believe I would have gotten a unanimous "No". It is an oppurtunity for introspection. :D

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[quote=mooby;843963]Technically it's two positions. So having two premier pass rushers in two positions shouldn't be a case of having excess "ballin."[/quote]

Fair enough, still this seems like a silly argument. We have two great pass rushers, two good TEs, and three good RBs. I would take that rather than having only one good TE, one good pass rusher, or just one good RB.

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Orakpo is still the man -- he is feared by coordinators around the league now, Kerrigan still isn't. Orakpo and Kerrigan are absolute beasts though and we may very well have one of the best LB corps in the league with Rak, Kerrigan, Fletch, and now McIntosh stepping up and a very reliable backup in Rob Jackson

Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo
 

[quote=Ruhskins;843965]Fair enough, still this seems like a silly argument. We have two great pass rushers, two good TEs, and three good RBs. I would take that rather than having only one good TE, one good pass rusher, or just one good RB.[/quote]

Agreed. In the case of TE's and RB's I have no problem having excess talent, because that just means we have good depth. Good depth is never a bad thing.

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[quote=Ruhskins;843965]Fair enough, still this seems like a silly argument. We have two great pass rushers, two good TEs, and three good RBs. I would take that rather than having only one good TE, one good pass rusher, or just one good RB.[/quote]

This.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;843949]Mann and Manley :D[/quote]

What we have in reality would be fantasy for most other teams. It's like having Clay Matthews and Ware on the same team.

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Actually Kerrigan is making Rak better as he draws more respect and blocking to slow him down. AND Rak will give supreme effort to keep up with Kerrigan. They are a ferocious duo and Rak was a monster today...
Tremendous Defensive unit this year...Cannot wait to see what happens next offseason with aquisitions...FA's and Jarvis Jenkins coming back

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[quote=rbanerjee23;843967]Orakpo is still the man -- he is feared by coordinators around the league now, Kerrigan still isn't. [B]Orakpo and Kerrigan are absolute beasts though and we may very well have one of the best LB corps in the league with Rak, Kerrigan, Fletch, and now McIntosh stepping up and a very reliable backup in Rob Jackson[/B][/quote]

Pretty much how I feel. And let's not forget Riley and Zo. I think Rocky is absolutely having his best season...good enough to keep Riley from starting which I was really looking forward to seeing, but Rocky is ballin' right now. I wouldn't put Kerrrigan ahead of Rak just yet but he does seem to have a better knack for causing TO's and being around the ball. Of course as much as Rak gets held it's amazing he can make any plays at all. I think the HC and GM did a great job in getting Kerrigan as him and Orakpo are the perfect compliments to each other.

Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo
 

[quote=Hog1;843973]Actually Kerrigan is making Rak better as he draws more respect and blocking to slow him down. AND Rak will give supreme effort to keep up with Kerrigan. They are a ferocious duo and Rak was a monster today...
Tremendous Defensive unit this year...Cannot wait to see what happens next offseason with aquisitions...FA's and Jarvis Jenkins coming back[/quote]

They compliment each other, even make Bowen, Carriker, and Neild look good. Jenkins is a beast of a pass rusher too.

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Rak is still our main man on the line but with the addition of Kerrigan we are making it much tougher for the opposition. Fun to watch these two at work along with Landry knocking the snot out of people.

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[quote=Mattyk;843941]Not sure why it matters if he does or doesn't, we have two beasts at OLB.[/quote]

Exactly right. We've got two monsters at OLB, and that's great. But Orakpo has made the pro-bowl in each of his first two seasons, and he's pacing for another one in his third. Kerrigan has looked fantastic, but he's played all of four NFL games.

Oh, Orakpo had 2.5 sacks today, btw.

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Stephen Bowen is very under-appreciated. I'm actually pretty ecstatic that they signed him instead of Cullen Jenkins. Granted Jenkins is playing well right now (4 sacks in 4 games) but Bowen has three years on him and is constantly getting pressure.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;843978]Stephen Bowen is very under-appreciated. I'm actually pretty ecstatic that they signed him instead of Cullen Jenkins.[/quote]

I didn't want a broken guy on the downside of his career, that's for sure.

Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo
 

Kerrigan has been significantly better than Orakpo during his rookie year.

Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo
 

[quote=Dirtbag59;843978]Stephen Bowen is very under-appreciated. I'm actually pretty ecstatic that they signed him instead of Cullen Jenkins. Granted Jenkins is playing well right now (4 sacks in 4 games) but Bowen has three years on him and is constantly getting pressure.[/quote]

He's been a non-factor in Philly.

Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo
 

[quote=IrMitchell;843982]Kerrigan has been significantly better than Orakpo during his rookie year.[/quote]

We'll see if he tops 11 sacks.

Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo
 

Surpassing him in what?
This is like trying to decide who gets a free oil change, you or your wifes car.

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[quote=IrMitchell;843982]Kerrigan has been significantly better than Orakpo during his rookie year.[/quote]

that's a very fair statement

Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo
 

[quote=Alvin Walton;843995]Surpassing him in what?
This is like trying to decide who gets a free oil change, you or your wifes car.[/quote]

Brilliant

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[quote=Mattyk;843941]Not sure why it matters if he does or doesn't, we have two beasts at OLB.[/quote]

This

Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo
 

Funny, I know the thread is about Kerrigan, but I don't think Rak has anywhere reached his potential. I think this guy could be one of the best. He just hasn't put it all together.

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Kerrigan's play recognition is outstanding for a rookie making a position switch.

He has a football mind, a great motor, is strong as hell and is more slippery than scouts gave him credit for.

Dude is more than a handful already.

What a BEAST draft pick for a team that traded back.

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This year's Redskins draft class will go as one best when it's all said and done. We are just scratching the surface, Kerrigan, Helu, Paul are making an impact and as the season progresses others will step up.

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I'd love to say I'm surprised with how good Kerrigan has been but........

[Quote]Future Stars (My Opinion):
[B]Ryan Kerrigan - This guy is Clay Matthews. He out muscles his opponents, never quits, stands out in every game. Taking him at #10 will pay huge dividends to us later.[/B]
Von Miller - Beast. Has a great pass rush, but an even better ability to make a big tackle.
Prince Amukamara - If He falls we can't pass him up. Patrick Peterson is without a doubt the better corner, but Amukamara is being overlooked as the "2nd best corner". He's a future shutdown corner with ability to tackle in the box.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/779438-post422.html[/url]

Posted in january

Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo
 

[quote=IrMitchell;844039]I'd love to say I'm surprised with how good Kerrigan has been but........


[url]http://www.thewarpath.net/779438-post422.html[/url]

Posted in january[/quote]

You are psychic.

Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo
 

They both benefit by having the other on the opposite side. Kerrigan is exactly what we needed to go with Rak.

I can't wait to see these guys dominate for years to come.

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Kerrigan needs a year under his belt to become an Orakpo, just for the fact that Brian has had more time to get comfortable in his role as OLB. Ryan had a more dramatic entry into the NFL with his pick six, and his sacks, but he isn't surpassing Orakpo for sometime, if ever. To do that he will have to improve exponentially I think.

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Kudos IrMitchell.

With that said, what's up with all the chest pounding on the 'Path recently? first 44ever with his "I told you so" about Torain and now IrMitchell about Kerrigan. No offense bro but it only works if someone else toots your horn, such as if I came in here and said, well IrMitchell deserves major kudos for his Kerrigan prediction before the draft. It just makes you look like an ass for doing it yourself. Again not trying to be hostile here but I'm calling it like I see it.

Re: Your thoughts of the possibility of Kerrigan "surpassing" Orakpo
 

[quote=12thMan;844004]Funny, I know the thread is about Kerrigan, but I don't think Rak has anywhere reached his potential. I think this guy could be one of the best. He just hasn't put it all together.[/quote]

As to Rak, I generally agree. He has superlative physical ability. I would like to see him develop an effective spin move and/or a nice arm over - he may do them but I don't see them. It seems if he can't bull or speed rush the QB he doesnt get there.

maybe as RK gets more attention, Rak can start developing some techniques that let his speed become more of a factor.