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Redskins_P 01-07-2005 01:51 PM

Washington Post chat : Jason LaCanfora takes questions about the Redskins
 
Heres the transcript of todays chat. Jason mentioned some interesting things including who the skins may draft and what FAs they plan to sign. There was even some talk of making a trade for Randy Moss??

[url]http://discuss.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/zforum/04/sports_redskins010705.htm[/url]

TheMalcolmConnection 01-07-2005 01:57 PM

Moss would be the last person I'd want on this team. He's only playing for himself. I can't deny his abilities, but that only goes so far.

Regardless, there's no way that would happen.

Great article though.

cpayne5 01-07-2005 02:02 PM

A trade for Moss intrigues me for some reason. I don't normally like guys like that, but I think that he would have a shorter leash here in DC. He is a senior guy up there in Minnesota, but definitely wouldn't be one here. The current players would keep him in line.

Redskins_P 01-07-2005 02:04 PM

Let's not forget he is from the area (somewhat).....

He was born in WV, which full of Skins fans..

MTK 01-07-2005 02:12 PM

Why are the Vikings looking to shop Moss?? Cap reasons?

If they do look to shop him of course it's an interesting thought, but it just doesn't seem like a good match with our cap.

MTK 01-07-2005 02:19 PM

Good chat overall but enough with the trade Portis and trade Arrington questions.

Does anybody understand the cap??

Redskins_P 01-07-2005 02:22 PM

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Good chat overall but enough with the trade Portis and trade Arrington questions.

Does anybody understand the cap??[/QUOTE]


Yeah really. Did you see how many "trade Portis" question there were? It's recockulous!

TheMalcolmConnection 01-07-2005 02:28 PM

I am also fed up with the trade Portis questions... 1300 yards without a LOT of room to run is pretty damn good in my opinion.

diehardskin2982 01-07-2005 02:41 PM

we would be giving up a hersel walker type trade to get moss. But it would be nice i don't think anyone could stop the combination of portis, moss, and coles. that would be un real.

cpayne5 01-07-2005 02:54 PM

[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]we would be giving up a hersel walker type trade to get moss. But it would be nice i don't think anyone could stop the combination of portis, moss, and coles. that would be un real.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget Cooley underneath!!!

Big C 01-07-2005 03:00 PM

dont forget we would probably have to give up someone like coles to get him, and i dont see this happening at all

FRPLG 01-07-2005 03:01 PM

I would crap my pants if we got Moss. I know the guy has ahd issues but I never get the feeling that he is a "real" problem like so many other guys in the league. If I am not mistaking he doesn't tend to get penalties for stupid things, he doesn't celebrate like a complete jack-ass every time he scores, he doesn't get pissy(lately) about getting the ball. I think actually comes off as a guy who actually really cares about the game and his team but just has some mis guided thoughts. I'd wonder most about what his locker-room affect is.

Can you imagine a healthy Coles and Moss on the same field at one time. Jesus that would be sweet.

cpayne5 01-07-2005 03:04 PM

I was [URL=http://skinsfan.us/images/seats.jpeg]sitting[/URL] near the tunnel that Moss went down at the end of the game Sunday. He was really getting it from the fans (including myself :D), but didn't really say anything back (like I would have expected). In an interview, he claimed that he left the field so that he wouldn't react in an even worse way out on the field.

TheMalcolmConnection 01-07-2005 03:20 PM

I will say that if anyone can build a person's character, it's the squad of Joe Gibbs. I still don't like him, but it would indeed be sweet to see Coles and Moss on the same field (provided Moss can keep his attitude in check).

memphisskin 01-07-2005 03:47 PM

I'm sick of the "trade Portis, trade Arrington" talk. We made significant committments (i.e. huge signing bonuses) to both players. Portis didn't go from being a 1500 yd back to bust in one season, and while I wouldn't mind a big back to move the chains can we please move past all the "return to Riggo talk?" Look, with no passing game Portis has shown that he can move the chains. At no point should any 205 lb back be asked to consistently move the pile, that's what fullbacks and the 240 lb backs do. Portis is a game breaker, and I think we've pigeonholed Gibbs offense as one that is only successful with a Riggins carrying the ball. Check the record, Riggins didn't play on the '87 title team, or the '91 title team, instead we had backs more like Portis (T. Smith and Byner). My biggest beef with that talk remains that it presupposes that the critic knows more about Gibbs' philosophy than Gibbs. I can't imagine anything further from the truth.

This was a particularly frustrating season for everyone, but I guess it proves that there are no quick fixes. It's a process, one that finally seems to be firmly on track. Instead of searching the free agent lists for the next big splash/bust, we should turn our eyes inward and look to develop the guys on our roster. Our defense should have proved that anyone can succeed if given the chance, look at the job Wilds did in the last game of the year or the effort that Lemar Marshall showed in replacing Lavar Arrington. I think we have enough stars, enough guys making big bucks, what we need to do is spend more time developing the talent we have on our roster already, refining our system and keeping the roster as stable as possible. It's a crime that there are only 8 guys left from the 2000 roster, and there's absolutely no justification for it. It's not like we were a juggernaut and got poached by other teams, no our front office policy was to throw the baby out with the bathwater and each year our team has had a different look than the year before. Our offense was horrendous this year, but to say that bringing in one more wideout would change things is ludicrous unless we're bringing in Jerry Rice circa 1988.

The one change I want this offseason is no change this offseason. We've got a top ten pick, I say select the top guy available and stop searching for Mr. Goodbar. We've got plenty of talent on this roster, I'd like to see our coaching staff maximize what we've got before we go out searching for the answer on someone else's roster. :soapbox:

Daseal 01-07-2005 03:50 PM

Moss has matured A LOT over the last few years. I think he's more worried about the team now. I'm not sure how he'd fit here, and I don't know if we can handle his contract! I feel Moss is hands down the best receiver in the league, but Burress may be an easier deal to get.

My favorite is someone asked a question about Ade Jimoh!

MTK 01-07-2005 03:52 PM

Burress is an interesting option. He's a huge target and he can get down the field.

skinsguy 01-07-2005 04:38 PM

By the skins thinking about getting "another" speed receiver makes me think that they're not too confident that Coles can get back to top form with that toe injury. It would be nice to have at least one very good speed receiver who can get open downfield. This could enhance Coles' play somewhat (taking the pressure off of him being the number one goto guy.)

Kevikazi 01-08-2005 12:03 AM

I don't know about getting Moss or Burress. I think players egos will clash. How will Coles handle Moss or Burress taking over as Skins' #1 WR?

MTK 01-08-2005 12:08 PM

Burress is already playing with Hines Ward, so I think he could mesh with Coles just fine.

I think Moss is a real, real longshot considering our cap.

SKINSnCANES 01-09-2005 12:41 PM

Id give up our first round pick for moss, no questions asked. But the Vikings would never take that. Moss is the best receiver in the league. We probably cant afford his contract, well with Snyder I bet we can, but Tice usually makes it pretty clear that Moss isnt going anywhere.

he has definitly matured as a player and isnt such a hot head anymore. He definitly plays as a team player. Moss instantly makes any offense respectable. It would be crucial for him and Ramsey to take a million snaps together in practice though to get on the same page, otherwise there would be problems. but no sense talking about htat yet.

Daseal 01-09-2005 07:30 PM

I honestly don't see any receiver going anywhere, both would be worth a first rounder. Moss is certainly better than anything coming out this year!

SmootSmack 01-09-2005 07:36 PM

Nice Simpsons quote in your sig Malcolm

kingerock 01-09-2005 08:13 PM

Coles is a speed guy but not one I would consider a deep threat. His strength lately is turning a short route or crossing route into big things with his speed. Now if you get a speed deep threat on the opposite side of the field, I think it opens up more for Coles, Cooley and even Royal, who has shown signs of being able to make plays.

offiss 01-10-2005 12:48 AM

[QUOTE=Daseal]Moss has matured A LOT over the last few years. I think he's more worried about the team now. I'm not sure how he'd fit here, and I don't know if we can handle his contract! I feel Moss is hands down the best receiver in the league, but Burress may be an easier deal to get.

My favorite is someone asked a question about Ade Jimoh![/QUOTE]


Daseal I have to disagree with you on his maturation as a person, yes he is an amazing talent but that's where it end's, did you see his little TD celebration late in the game against the Pack? As classless as it was I had to laugh I just thought to myself this guy is a firstclass smuck and he will probably never change, how bout walking off the field before the game is over how do you think either one of those act's would go over with Gibb's? AIN'T HAPPENING!

Im still laughing at his endzone dance though. :rofl: Which kindergarten was he drafted out of?

SmootSmack 01-10-2005 12:51 AM

I think Moss is a perfect example of SportsCurmudgeon's "meathead"

MTK 01-10-2005 08:22 AM

[QUOTE=smootsmack]I think Moss is a perfect example of SportsCurmudgeon's "meathead"[/QUOTE]

I'll second that.

While I don't think his little mooning incident was as big a deal as some in the media are making it out to be, it was still unnecessary and immature.

BDBohnzie 01-10-2005 11:24 AM

Let Moss rot in Minnesota...he is the best receiver in pro football, but his attitude stinks worse than a week old bass left in a car trunk in the summertime...

I point out the Colts game yesterday, and see that type of potential in the Skins...now before anyone jumps on me like a cheap whore in tijuana, hear me out...

the Colts strength doesn't lie in just Manning. He has 3 receivers that have good speed and run correct routes. the success of Harrison, Wayne, and Stokley is helped by Manning, but is also help by how smart these 3 play. Coles, Thrash/Jacobs, and WR to be named later are intelligent receivers who have decent speed and should be running Gibbs' routes in their sleep come this September. could possibly be a second type coming of The Posse...

Manning also has 2 quality H-back/tight ends in Clark and Pollard. Clark made some amazing catches yesterday, and Pollard has been a solid TE is whole career. Cooley has shown great promise, and Robert Royal has Pollard's size, and has proven he can catch the ball (8 catches, 4 TDs this year).

I'm not saying that Ramsey is the next coming of Manning, but the kid has the arm to produce. If Gibbs and Musgrave can get P-Ram motivated and ready to play this fall, and the Skins get the WRs they need...P-Ram getting a full training camp with the 1st team offense could further develop his skills...

And don't forget about Portis...if the Skins can start getting deep routes nailed down...it'll only open Mack truck sized holes for Portis to run thru...

sorry for the analogies...you just get these things stuck in your head sometimes


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