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Dirtbag59 10-20-2011 12:40 AM

McDonald's Cashier Loses It
 
This is disgusting. I hope the guy ends up going to jail for at least a decade. Not that the women he beat down with a metal rod were completely innocent but when he goes back for a second then third time it goes way beyond self defense.

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The Goat 10-20-2011 01:10 AM

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Ummmm they all deserve to go to jail IMHO, but ya the dude who beats on women goes away for long time.

saden1 10-20-2011 10:58 AM

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I feel for the guy...he clearly lost it. I mean, them bitches struck out 3 times by verbally abusing him, physically hitting him and finally jumping the counter. I hope they learned a life long lesson...it is never ok to do what they did to any human being, especially someone you don't know.

SmootSmack 10-20-2011 11:03 AM

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Dude just got out of jail for a shooting incident

Daseal 10-20-2011 11:07 AM

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This guy doesn't deserve a second in jail. I hope those ladies learned there are repurcussions for your actions. He did nothing wrong, yet was verbally and physically assaulted. Did he go a little too long, maybe? However, I also heard that he was telling them to stay down and not move, but they kept trying to get up.

If I were on this jury, unless they had overwhelming evidence, I would never change my opinion that he was completely provoked and innocent of any damages civil or criminal.

over the mountain 10-20-2011 11:48 AM

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gosh dang man . .every time alil tiny bit of violence pops off theres always this one lady who screams from the top of her lungs like shes witnessing some heinous crime against humanity.

dont know why the guy decided to grab a rod though, just punch them once and be done with it and well within your legal rights of self defense.

women seem to act more confrontational than guys to strangers nowadays imo.

NC_Skins 10-20-2011 11:53 AM

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The customer assaulted him first and then came around the counter to initiate it further. I can't blame him for defending himself, BUT there was a point it went from defending to criminal behavior. Both of these individuals should go to jail, AND the other employees not stopping him should be fired as well. It's pathetic people sit back and watch shit like that happen without intervening. If they aren't fired, the manager should be.

MTK 10-20-2011 12:28 PM

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[quote=NC_Skins;849819]The customer assaulted him first and then came around the counter to initiate it further. [B]I can't blame him for defending himself, BUT there was a point it went from defending to criminal behavior.[/B] Both of these individuals should go to jail, AND the other employees not stopping him should be fired as well. It's pathetic people sit back and watch shit like that happen without intervening. If they aren't fired, the manager should be.[/quote]

This.

Monkeydad 10-20-2011 12:55 PM

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I hate when I get loose cashiers.

FRPLG 10-20-2011 12:57 PM

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Yeah when they jumped the register they instantly deserved a beat down. In that case self-defense is to incapacitate an assailant with appropriate force. With a metal rod? Not so sure...but I wasn't there. What other weapons did he have at his disposal? Where he enters jail land is when he doesn't stop and turns self-defense into uncontrolled rage.

mooby 10-20-2011 01:10 PM

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Damn. Yeah pretty much agree with NC and FRPLG. The woman shouldn't have jumped over the counter, so he was obviously within his right to defend himself. But once she's down he should've stopped. He took it too far and I think both of them are going to have to spend some time in jail as a result of it.

CrazyCanuck 10-20-2011 01:54 PM

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I once worked as a McDonalds cashier.

The 1st rule of McD's: Once you jump the counter you're fair game.

Dirtbag59 10-20-2011 02:09 PM

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This is why you don't beat your kids. Every person in that video from the women that thought it was alright to slap the guy and call him a pussy before jumping the counter to the guy that went nuts with a metal rod probably all had disturbing child hoods filled with violence and abuse.

Alvin Walton 10-20-2011 02:14 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;849857]This is why you don't beat your kids. Every person in that video from the women that thought it was alright to slap the guy and call him a pussy before jumping the counter to the guy that went nuts with a metal rod probably all had disturbing child hoods filled with violence and abuse.[/quote]

Or they were just asshole hood people.

MTK 10-20-2011 02:51 PM

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There's a lesson to be learned here: When keeping it real, always be wary of those keepin' it realer

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hooskins 10-20-2011 03:00 PM

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Although the guy went too far, F better that think they can act like that anywhere. I've seen people say some screwed up stuff to people working in the fast food and services industries. And IMO they do that because they think they are "better" than others. People just need to learn how to act.

SolidSnake84 10-21-2011 06:54 AM

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I don't blame that guy for one second. I would also have to say that i find it extremely unlikely that a jury will convict that guy. He was physically assaulted first, and then when the women jumped the counter, he was acting in self defense. They could have been coming at him with a knife or a gun.

I don't think that beating with a metal pole was over-kill either. It was make-due with whatever the guy had laying around. He was trying to tell them to stay down. If he let one of them up, he could have been caught with a knife or a shank or something. The guy was 100% within his rights.

gibbsisgod 10-21-2011 07:48 AM

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[quote=SolidSnake84;849991]I don't blame that guy for one second. I would also have to say that i find it extremely unlikely that a jury will convict that guy. He was physically assaulted first, and then when the women jumped the counter, he was acting in self defense. They could have been coming at him with a knife or a gun.

I don't think that beating with a metal pole was over-kill either. It was make-due with whatever the guy had laying around. He was trying to tell them to stay down. If he let one of them up, he could have been caught with a knife or a shank or something. The guy was 100% within his rights.[/quote]And you cant see behind the counter. They may be kicking him or whatever. I dont see a thing wrong with what he did.

Lets just think for a second if it were two men who jumped the counter. Would those who thinks he was in the wrong still feel the same way?

What if the cashier was a woman? And she did the beat down. People would be praising her.

I think he did what he had to do because two nutjobs just verbally berated him, slapped him in the face and when he tried to get away they jumped the counter and came after him. I say he did what he had to do.

Daseal 10-21-2011 07:51 AM

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Exactly. To me, he stops, and something happens on the ground that makes him continue. You don't know anything about those two women. Are they on drugs? Do they have weapons. If I have a metal rod, and you're moving your hands towards your waist, you get another whack. Shut up, stop moving, and wait for the ambulance.

MTK 10-21-2011 07:55 AM

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Or maybe this guy was just a nut job who lost his cool and took a situation from bad to worse?

SmootSmack 10-21-2011 08:04 AM

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It's ok for this convicted criminal to continuously beat two women lying on the floor with fractured skulls...but if this was a cop (even an off-duty one), plenty here would be up in arms in protest.

Dude went too far. Way too far

MTK 10-21-2011 08:06 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;850005]It's ok for this convicted criminal to continuously beat two women lying on the floor with fractured skulls...but if this was a cop (even an off-duty one), plenty here would be up in arms in protest.

Dude went too far. Way too far[/quote]

Great point.

htownskinfan 10-21-2011 08:23 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;850005]It's ok for this convicted criminal to continuously beat two women lying on the floor with fractured skulls...but if this was a cop (even an off-duty one), plenty here would be up in arms in protest.

Dude went too far. Way too far[/quote]

Your right but those are 2 totally different circumstances.A cop would have a gun and probably would have shot the bitches
Yeah I think the guy went too far,do I feel sorry for the women,no.I do think he will be convicted for something

SmootSmack 10-21-2011 08:25 AM

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That's why I threw in off-duty, as in he's not carrying a gun.

SmootSmack 10-21-2011 08:25 AM

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And I actually wouldn't be surprised if he did have a gun, I mean he had served time in prison for shooting one

gibbsisgod 10-21-2011 09:08 AM

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Im sorry but this guy was in the right. He was verbally attacked, then physically attacked and when he tried to escape the situation he was pursued by a lunatic and her friend. She and her friend were crazy enough to slap a cashier and then chase after him. who knows what they were capable of. He was backed into a corner and fought back. He didnt have that long to think he just reacted to being assaulted. Hell, the whole video is less than 2 minutes long. At what point did he "go to far"? Was it violent? yes! Was it "Going to far". Hell No!

I stand by what I said earlier. Had it been a woman cashier everybody would be praising her. Had it been two men who attacked a cashier (male or female) everybody would be saying they got what they deserved.

Daseal 10-21-2011 10:23 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;850005]It's ok for this convicted criminal to continuously beat two women lying on the floor with fractured skulls...but if this was a cop (even an off-duty one), plenty here would be up in arms in protest.

Dude went too far. Way too far[/quote]

I disagree. If an off-duty officer was physically assaulted, I don't think we'd see anyone having an issue with this. I agree, it was two minutes long and we have no idea what was happening on the floor. They were the the ones who both initiated and continued the conflict.

MTK 10-21-2011 10:28 AM

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I hope at the end of the day we can at least agree there's plenty of blame to go around in this. I don't see anyone here being "right".

firstdown 10-21-2011 11:21 AM

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I never seen a person working at Mcdonalds move that fast.WOW

budw38 10-21-2011 11:42 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;850005]It's ok for this convicted criminal to continuously beat two women lying on the floor with fractured skulls...but if this was a cop (even an off-duty one), plenty here would be up in arms in protest.

Dude went too far. Way too far[/quote]
I agree with you SS . I hope the women have to clean floors in MCD's for two years ( Comm. Service ) and the guy needs anger managment classes , maybe if he had a clean record I would give him a pass for a controling them , but he went too far IMO . Maybe going to jail for a little time would help them all out .

SmootSmack 10-21-2011 11:43 AM

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That's pretty funny FD

And Matty, I agree they're all to blame. Still, it's not like this guy was cornered alone. There were plenty of other people there to help him. And his co-workers were trying to help stabilize the situation but appeared terrified of him.

firstdown 10-21-2011 12:24 PM

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If they were wearing Dalls shirts the second beating would have been justified.

htownskinfan 10-21-2011 12:51 PM

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[quote=SmootSmack;850026]That's why I threw in off-duty, as in he's not carrying a gun.[/quote]

:)Ok,but Im under the impression most cops carry their guns even off duty

GhettoDogAllStars 10-21-2011 05:59 PM

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In my opinion, when you're attacked you have every right to use as much force is required to be safe again, which includes deadly force. One can never tell exactly how much force is appropriate -- especially in the heat of the moment -- and when defending yourself it's best to err on the side of caution.

A lot people here are saying that he didn't need to use so much force to be safe, but that cannot be judged by looking at such a short and low quality video. I think we'd be better off if we assumed in his favor until further evidence warrants otherwise.

Chico23231 10-21-2011 06:56 PM

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That horrible and the guy giving the beating should have charges pressed against him for his actions which went to far. The woman and her friend should have charges pressed against them for assault and disorderly conduct as well. But i have no sympathy for her or her friend that got beat. zero.

If you want to pick a fight, hit or slap in this case and then go after the person, you have to accept the consequences of what goes along with that action.

if it was the cashier on the ground, they woulda handed out a similar beating.

Daseal 10-21-2011 07:18 PM

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[quote=Chico23231;850170]That horrible and the guy giving the beating should have charges pressed against him for his actions which went to far. The woman and her friend should have charges pressed against them for assault and disorderly conduct as well. But i have no sympathy for her or her friend that got beat. zero.

If you want to pick a fight, hit or slap in this case and then go after the person, you have to accept the consequences of what goes along with that action.

if it was the cashier on the ground, they woulda handed out a similar beating.[/quote]

I'm kinda confused by your comments. You're taking both sides. What charges should be filed against the McDonalds worker. I guess I'm curious. Who, of the parties involved, should get the most time in prison.

Chico23231 10-21-2011 08:04 PM

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[quote=Daseal;850174]I'm kinda confused by your comments. You're taking both sides. What charges should be filed against the McDonalds worker. I guess I'm curious. Who, of the parties involved, should get the most time in prison.[/quote]

I think the fact the guy continued to beat the person on the ground after it appeared over should get the most time. That wasnt needed and it appeared over and the person was already rendered defenseless. that simply is indefensible.

But yeah, I believe both equally responsible for blantent criminal actions. Your looking simple assault and disorderly for the couple. your looking assault with a deadly weapon, malicious wounding for the Mickey D's batting champ or the winner of the fight.

Chico23231 10-21-2011 08:22 PM

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Big take away for me:

Big Mac Attack > Doing Hood Rat Stuff

NC_Skins 10-21-2011 11:05 PM

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[quote]Police have charged the cashier, identified as Rayon McIntosh, 31, with felony assault, along with criminal possession of a weapon. Both women were charged with menacing, trespass and disorderly conduct. McIntosh is being held at the Manhattan Detention Complex on $40,000 bail, according to the Department of Correction website.

Read more: [url=http://www.dnainfo.com/20111014/greenwich-village-soho/mcdonalds-cashier-caught-on-cell-phone-video-beating-unruly-customers#ixzz1bTZ4xKeb]McDonald's Worker Caught on Cell Phone Video Beating Unruly Customers - DNAinfo.com[/url]
[/quote]

It's quite obvious who the cops thought was more in the wrong in this incident. Probably why his ass is sitting in jail on a 40k bond.


and he was fired.

[quote]The owner of the McDonald's franchise, Carmen Paulino, said that McIntosh "no longer works for my organization."

“I am extremely disturbed by the events captured on tape and am concerned for those injured. The actions of this individual are unacceptable and not characteristic of my employees. This individual no longer works for my organization," she said.

"Operating safe, welcoming restaurants is my top priority. I am fully cooperating with authorities in the investigation.”
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DynamiteRave 10-21-2011 11:23 PM

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I think initially when the women jumped the counter and came after him, he had every right in the world to defend himself.

After the women fall to the floor and they're obviously injured and are in no way able to harm him, it's changed from self defense to assault. You think they're gonna be stupid enough to come after a dude with a weapon? I don't care who you are, you pull a weapon of any sort on me and I'm out.

And shame on his co-workers. Did absolutely nothing to help him out. You don't wanna jump in front of him, but if he's wielding a weapon and bashing some womens faces in, you'd think SOMEONE would try to grab him, the weapon or the women. Around 45 seconds into the video the dude stops hitting the women, shakes his head up and down in a way that says, "Oh yeah? Now what are you gonna do" and then hits them a few more times. Its at that point I think it went from self defense to assault.

As lame as it sounds, with all the drama that goes on at fast food restaurants, I really think companies should strongly consider hiring security guards.


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