Official Andrew Luck Thread
 

I wanted to start a new thread just on this guy. I think he is the biggest prospect I have ever heard of coming out of college and I have been watching football strong for 28 of my 38 years. The buzz around this guy is unreal.


What are the real chances of us getting him? I just think everyone has a price. What would Bruce Allen and company give up for him? Two 1st and a first born?

It is definitely going to be a interesting draft night.

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I think if the Rams end up w/the #1 we have a chance to make a deal.

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Is there an unofficial Andrew Luck thread?

If the rams get the first pick, he will go to the highest bidder.
It depends on how much we want to give up for him.
The Ram would probably want 2 top 10 first round picks and a handful of other selections. Since out team is not that bad, It might cost us 3 first round picks.

I doubt we will be able to get him!

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If the NFL decides to run a lottery for the 2012 draft for the bottom 10 finishers, and our injuries this year end up derailing our season, then under that scenario I could see us having a shot at Luck. Otherwise, no chance. The degree of mortgaging necessary to work that trade will scare even Snyder.

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Is Kyle Shanahan Mike's firstborn, if so, maybe that 2 1st's and the firstborn might work if it's with the Rams.

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[quote=BringBackJoeT;852868]If the NFL decides to run a lottery for the 2012 draft for the bottom 10 finishers, and our injuries this year end up derailing our season, then under that scenario I could see us having a shot at Luck. Otherwise, no chance. The degree of mortgaging necessary to work that trade will scare even Snyder.[/quote]


Are they really thinking about having a lottery? That is one of the worst things about the NBA. God I hope they never do that.

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Competition will be fierce so the price will be sky high even if the Rams hold the pick. The Herschel Walker trade may end up looking like just a minor shuffle in comparison.

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[quote=mredskins;852872]Are they really thinking about having a lottery? That is one of the worst things about the NBA. God I hope they never do that.[/quote]

No, I was joking. I don't think we have anything to fear on that front, but, unfortunately, I also don't think we have any hope of getting Luck.

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[quote=mredskins;852862]I wanted to start a new thread just on this guy. I think he is the biggest prospect I have ever heard of coming out of college and I have been watching football strong for 28 of my 38 years. The buzz around this guy is unreal.


What are the real chances of us getting him? I just think everyone has a price. What would Bruce Allen and company give up for him? Two 1st and a first born?

It is definitely going to be a interesting draft night.[/quote]


I don't think we're going to get Luck cause we're going to win too many games. I think Miami or Indy will end of drafting him cause they might end up with only 1 or 2 wins. But we might be able to get one of the other guys...Barkley, the guy on Boise, or what about Baylor's QB??

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For what it's worth, Moore, RGIII, and Tannehill seem to be the QBs we're showing the most interest in at this time...in reverse order of what I listed

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[quote=SmootSmack;852879]For what it's worth, Moore, RGIII, and [B]Tannehill[/B] seem to be the QBs we're showing the most interest in at this time...in reverse order of what I listed[/quote]

Not a bad list...Tannehill Im having a hard time gauging the interest. Ive only seen him play one time, not overly impressive. I trust the Shanny, but i dont see the hype with him.

My uncle who is the 24/7 diehard football fan from the old school, says Moore is the most "football ready" outside of Luck coming out. I really like Moore and the fit with our team

RG III has the biggest upside. Dude is super smart too. Im really starting to buy into the hype as a better prospect over Landry and Barkley. His completion percentage this year is off the charts and he does get the ball down field.

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I just read up some on RGIII. Wow I would not mind have him under center.

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I asked an anonymous source close to the situation "What about Matt Barkley?" And the answer was "They're probably more interested in Charles Barkley. Matt's not really the type of QB they're looking for"

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[quote=SmootSmack;852889]I asked an anonymous source close to the situation "What about Matt Barkley?" And the answer was "They're probably more interested in Charles Barkley. Matt's not really the type of QB they're looking for"[/quote]


That's terrible.

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I dont think we are going to be in a position to draft him. And I dont want to give up a shit load of picks of future drafts for him either. If you give up a bunch of picks and he ends up being a bust, you just mortgaged and threw away the next freaking 5 years. If we get it great, if we dont there are other QB's coming out that could be as good. Personally, I'd keep an eye on Kirt Cousins from Mich ST. Kid has the arm and mobility to be a QB in this league. I have said it since seeing him play as a freshman. The kid is pretty damn good.

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For some reason I keep thinking the Colts are going to get Luck. I mean having him under PM for a vew years like Roger under Brett would be deadly.

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I would be happy w/ Barkley. Should be an interesting game this weekend, USC vs Stanford, Luck vs Barkley.

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I will say this, if our season tanks to the point where we are in the running for Luck(3 or 4 wins), then I think it's worth the price to reach and get him. Once in a while you do need to be willing to spend draft picks, and the front office has shown great ability to recoup lost picks. That said, any more than 4 wins, and I think the cost gets to high to fast. I just don't want to be sitting here 2 years from now still griping about qb play.

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[quote=SmootSmack;852879]For what it's worth, Moore, RGIII, and Tannehill seem to be the QBs we're showing the most interest in at this time...in reverse order of what I listed[/quote]

What about Landry Jones?

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Haven't really heard

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But I mean it's October. Way too early to draw any conclusions

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[quote=SmootSmack;852912]But I mean it's October. Way too early to draw any conclusions[/quote]

Right. So we're definitely drafting Tannehill. Got it. :)

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there's always the chance that beck turns out to be a stud.

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[quote=Lotus;852915]Right. So we're definitely drafting Tannehill. Got it. :)[/quote]

Exactly. Also, some people I've talked to have said they really don't think RGIII will come out this year. Same people said the same about Blackmon last year

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I feel like we only have a 1/3 shot of trading up to get Luck. The way I see it, the 3 worst teams are Indy, the Rams, and Miami. If Indy or Miami get the first overall pick, fuggedaboudit. Why would they take some first round picks if both had the chance to take their qb of the future, one of the most elite prospects to come out in years I might add. If the Rams get it, well I wouldn't look into trading up for Luck so much as I would look into trading for Bradford. I'd be just as happy with Bradford as with Luck. But either way, if we did stay where we are at I'd love to see Robert Griffin III in a Skins uni.

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I think Luck is going to command somewhere in the neighborhood of 3 first rounders. A 2012 swap and two more 1st rounders or a 2012 swap and a first and two seconds. I'd send two 1st rounders easily but i'm sure other teams would too.

That is if the first pick doesn't just draft him. If it's Indi though they might be willing to sell to make a few more runs at the SB w/ Peyton. If they get 3 great picks they've got alot of options and they do have alot of needs. Same w/ St Louis.

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No way we get Luck. RGIII for me.

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Can we draft Cam Newton?

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One thing I haven't seen mentioned is what impact Luck himself will have on where he goes. The best prospect since John Elway, could pull an Elway and tell a team at #1 that he wont play for them. If the Redskins are in the top ten, maybe Luck would like to play for Shanny.

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[quote=SmootSmack;852889]I asked an anonymous source close to the situation "What about Matt Barkley?" And the answer was "They're probably more interested in Charles Barkley. Matt's not really the type of QB they're looking for"[/quote]

I agree. I don't want Barkley. The reason why he's soo hyped up is because he was the top QB to come out of high school in 09, he has a good arm, and he started for USC as a freshman. If he declares this year I don't want him. Please someone tell me the difference between him and Matt Leinart other than arm strength and left/right handedness.

And this Tannehill guy, is not the answer. Never heard of him until now. He was a WR. Ok so that tells me he's mobile. Can he read a defense? Is he accurate? Does he have a good pocket presence? Does he rely on his feet a lot? Are his number that good because of the offense he plays in?


I'll tell you two QB's I'd like: Nick Foles and Kellen Moore.

Nick looks like Ben Roethlisbergers arm, with Matt Ryans throwing/accuarcy, and Tom Brady's pocket presence.

Kellen Moore is the smartest football IQ-wise QB in the draft IMO. If he were 2 inches taller people would be all over him as a top 5 pick. His arm strength gets questioned, but he looks the part to me. They said Kurt Warner didn't have any arm strength, but he was really accurate which made up for it. I think Kellen Moore could be a lot like Kurt.

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I agree that about Moore and Foles. My guess is Tanneyhill would mean they have confidence in Beck for the next two to three years. Good for them, I suppose. I'd be down for going to right Moore to kick off the 2012 season

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he's playing against SMU. Until SMU is known for their defense I'm not gonna bother watching more.

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[quote=EARTHQUAKE2689;852891]That's terrible.[/quote]

I believe the correct spelling is That's Turrribbbble.

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We won't suck enough to get Luck and forget about trading to get him. I don't won to mortage the farm to get Luck. As for Kellen Moore from Boise St. he looks great in the college game but he does not play in a strong conference. He is also on the short side for a NFL QB. We have to get a QB in the 2012 draft and I'm not talking about a backup QB we need a bona fide starter. We better do our home work for this draft on the QB's.

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I really can't believe we have another thread on this guy.

Personally I think he's over rated. There will be other teams who will finish worse then the Skins who will have a better chance of getting him. and lastly... I think he did want to come out last year but knew his ole ball coach would not be able to get him in San Fran so he decided to stay in college. I'd put good money (if I had it) on the table that he comes out this year and San Fran makes a play for him. A big play. I think if San Fran can't move up to get him then they will offer whoever picks him a couple of players and a couple of picks just to trade for him.

So to me .... Luck is a moot issue. Who's the next best? of course that would fit in this system.

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Anybody watch the game tonight? What a game!! Both QB's looked great especially Luck, Barkley held his own.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;853236]Anybody watch the game tonight? What a game!! Both QB's looked great especially Luck, Barkley held his own.[/quote]

Matt Barkley + Robert Woods = Matt Leinart + DeWayne Jarrett





Translation. I don't want him or Woods

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tannehill is a good shout. hes big and mobile (he was a wide receiver at tamu too)

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[quote=Big C;853251]tannehill is a good shout. hes big and mobile (he was a wide receiver at tamu too)[/quote]

Yeah, there's a lot to like about Tannehill. Lack of experience is a concern. But I wouldn't mind if we got him in a later round.