Smoot lays the smack down (Skins/Bills) - mattyk edition
 

Good evening, SS has the night off.

Wow, what really needs to be said here?

I'm smacking down the entire team and organization. Just a piss poor performance all around.

We could seriously be looking at a top 10 pick in April. Unbelievable.

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Nuff said, Matty. There's not really anyone who doesn't deserve a smackdown except Fletcher. There's the lone stud of the game.

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A top 10 pick to draft our qb of the future, who hopefully won't overthrow a triple covered Jabar Gaffney in the endzone with our last remaining chance to score. We deserved this shutout.

I'm smacking down the coaches. One week after the head coach admits he could've helped out the defense prepare better, they come out and play like this? Embarressing.

And I'm also smacking down everybody that wants a backup to come in because the starter sucks. The green is not greener. Repeat. The grass is not greener! This is a very untalented team. The reason the backups are backups is because they suck too. Just prepare for a long season, because injuries are ultimately just starting to reveal how bad our depth is.

And I also concur that pretty much the entire team deserves to get smacked down today. Only Fletcher played good. I feel bad for him, wasting the end of his career on a team as shitty as this. He should be playing for a contender.

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[quote=Mattyk;853812]I'm smacking down the entire team and organization. Just a piss poor performance all around.

We could seriously be looking at a top 10 pick in April. Unbelievable.[/quote]


I think I need to revise my remaining predictions for this team after watching this game. Having those OL out appears to be crucial. Beck had absolutely no time today to do anything and held the ball too long on several occasions.

I wouldn't be surprised by a top 10(or even 5) pick based off this showing. So many needs. I can say it's obvious we are also hurting in the WR department. Nobody really able to get open.

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[quote=mooby;853822]A top 10 pick to draft our qb of the future, who hopefully won't overthrow a triple covered Jabar Gaffney in the endzone with our last remaining chance to score. We deserved this shutout.

I'm smacking down the coaches. One week after the head coach admits he could've helped out the defense prepare better, they come out and play like this? Embarressing.

And I'm also smacking down everybody that wants a backup to come in because the starter sucks. The green is not greener. Repeat. The grass is not greener! This is a very untalented team. The reason the backups are backups is because they suck too. Just prepare for a long season, because injuries are ultimately just starting to reveal how bad our depth is.

And I also concur that pretty much the entire team deserves to get smacked down today. Only Fletcher played good. I feel bad for him, wasting the end of his career on a team as shitty as this. He should be playing for a contender.[/quote]

Clearly the weather in Toronto screwed us over.

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Maybe now some apologies can be given to some of the posters here who last week suggested that the skins win 4 games this year. After watching today's game, 4 wins is very believable.

The worst thing is, after another few losses, people will be calling for Shanahan to be fired, and he probably will be, and we are left in the same situation we have been in a million times before. A team with no QB, no real coach primed to take over, and a roster of players who may have been talented once, but can't play as a team.

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The bills had 6 sacks total this year. They had 6 in the game (maybe more)...that says enough right there. Beck is NOT our future QB. Defense, played awful in the run game, which is what their known for is being good at stopping the run...not today!

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Oh, I don't know about diluting the smackdown by spreading it around to the entire team. Not when the OL set a team record (9) for sacks allowed against a team that only had 4 sacks for the entire season coming into the game. I'd say that deserves special mention.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;853831]The bills had 6 sacks total this year. They had 6 in the game (maybe more)...that says enough right there.[B] Beck is NOT our future QB[/B]. Defense, played awful in the run game, which is what their known for is being good at stopping the run...not today![/quote]

I hope no one thought he was...

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[quote=CultBrennan59;853831]The bills had 6 sacks total this year. They had 6 in the game (maybe more)...that says enough right there. Beck is NOT our future QB. Defense, played awful in the run game, which is what their known for is being good at stopping the run...not today![/quote]

9 sacks. They broke a team record.

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I'm smaking down the mods, the fans, hell even myself for believing this team was any good. The Shanahans are on the hot seat for real.

And take that damn devil off the page too! Sheesh.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;853828]Clearly the weather in Toronto screwed us over.[/quote]

Man, I'm gonna say this in the nicest possible way for me to do, just **** off. I'm not in the mood to deal with your annoying repetitive bullshit. You are annoying me at the worst possible moment, and if it keeps up I'm just gonna block you.

Have a nice day. :)

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[quote=SolidSnake84;853830]Maybe now some apologies can be given to some of the posters here who last week suggested that the skins win 4 games this year. After watching today's game, 4 wins is very believable.

[B]The worst thing is, after another few losses, people will be calling for Shanahan to be fired, and he probably will be, and we are left in the same situation we have been in a million times before.[/B] A team with no QB, no real coach primed to take over, and a roster of players who may have been talented once, but can't play as a team.[/quote]Firing Shanny would be a huge mistake. We are finally starting to build through the draft, but being realistic, we are probably 2 drafts away from really competing. QB and O-line must be addressed after being ignored last draft.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;853831]The bills had 6 sacks total this year. They had 6 in the game (maybe more)...that says enough right there. Beck is NOT our future QB. Defense, played awful in the run game, which is what their known for is being good at stopping the run...not today![/quote]

They had 4 sacks total on the year. They had twice that amount against us alone. That's not only on John Beck, although he does deserve some blame for his horrible pocket presence. That's on our o-line.

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Keep Allen. Fire the Shanahans and "Has-been" Haslett.

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[quote=mooby;853838]Man, I'm gonna say this in the nicest possible way for me to do, just **** off. I'm not in the mood to deal with your annoying repetitive bullshit. You are annoying me at the worst possible moment, and if it keeps up I'm just gonna block you.

Have a nice day. :)[/quote]

Yea well its a two way street pal!
You've been humping my leg since the day I joined this forum.
Block all you want....then ask me if I give a flying fox!

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Sunday evenings are going to become more and more interesting as this season continues to progress. If there are answers we better find them fast....tough to be a Redskins fan right now.

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I think our biggest problem is Shans son is running our O and will he fire him ?

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[quote=Alvin Walton;853842]Yea well its a two way street pal!
You've been humping my leg since the day I joined this forum.
Block all you want....then ask me if I give a flying fox![/quote]

Request granted. Let my last post addressed to you give you a personal salute.

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The Washington redskins are a complete joke to the NFL, the team is as bad or worse than last season idk what to even think anymore I'm pretty much done for the season

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[quote=firstdown;853851]I think our biggest problem is Shans son is running our O and will he fire him ?[/quote]
What would Mike say to Kyle ..... you're fired .... " momma's boy " ?

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I think the biggest realization after the game is, its official, we have no QB who is NFL starter material. Regardless of the Oline play and the poor coaching by Kyle, we need talent at that position. They really could draft 2 guys at QB.

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[quote=diehard;853841]Keep Allen. Fire the Shanahans and "Has-been" Haslett.[/quote]

I am more rational now than my earlier post, but i do believe the Shanahans may be fired at some point this season if this team continues to regress each week like it has been doing.

If they are kept to the end of the season, then we need to be smart. We will most likely get to draft Andrew Luck, and we can use our remainder draft picks on offensive linemen.

We need to try and stay calm...

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[quote=Chico23231;853856]I think the biggest realization after the game is, its official, we have no QB who is NFL starter material. Regardless of the Oline play and the poor coaching by Kyle, we need talent at that position. They really could draft 2 guys at QB.[/quote]

That old saying, if you have two starting qb's, you really have none, has never rang more true. I think it's amazing that a team that had one of the greatest offensive lines in NFL history fails to realize how important it is. This is the depth they chose to go with though, so now we're stuck until the offseason.

Whenever you have to smack down an entire team, or half the team, then the blame lands on the coaching staff. It takes 1 year to be competitive, 2 years to be good, 3 years to be awesome. We're in year 2 and barely competitive. All coaches should get 3 full years, but if we're not at least good by this time next, it might be time to start the next experiment. And good means 10-6, not 14-2. I think that's fair and realistic.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;853858]I am more rational now than my earlier post, but i do believe the Shanahans may be fired at some point this season if this team continues to regress each week like it has been doing.

If they are kept to the end of the season, then we need to be smart. [B]We will most likely get to draft Andrew Luck[/B], and we can use our remainder draft picks on offensive linemen.

We need to try and stay calm...[/quote]

You talk about being smart, then say we will most likely get to draft Andrew Luck. I believe a smart person would realize that we have 3 more wins than the two worst teams in the NFL, one of which (the Colts) look almost guaranteed to lose every remaining game this season. How do you see us finishing with more losses than the Colts or Dolphins? Sorry bro but in this season of historical ineptitude across the NFL, we still have a long way to go to be considered in position to grab Luck.

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What was Bill Cowhers most recent thoughts on returning to the NFL???????
:frusty:

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[quote=firstdown;853851]I think our biggest problem is Shans son is running our O and will he fire him ?[/quote]

Someone tweeted Comcast....no "O" no "D" no good. KS ran a reverse on the second offensive play.

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[quote=Mattyk;853812]Good evening, SS has the night off.

Wow, what really needs to be said here?

I'm smacking down the entire team and organization. Just a piss poor performance all around.

We could seriously be looking at a top 10 pick in April. Unbelievable.[/quote]


A top 10 pick is inevitable at this point Matty. I mean I can come out with the Frerotte comments now after this performance. My God we have no starting QB in DC!!!!!!! The Lions destroyed the Broncos in Denver and we look like crap in Toronto. A tale of two woeful franchises going in opposite directions. A lot of this is on the FO as well, namely Vinny and co for neglecting the O line for so long, but we truly needed to load up on linemen this past draft. At least I have the Lions and my EMU Eagles to fall back on, and you have the Caps. Season over dude!!!!!!

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Skins won't get luck but maybe Barkley

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Smack down K. Shanahan
Smack down Beck
Smack down Torain
Smack down Jamaal Brown
Smack down M. Shanahan
Smack down Haslett.

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[quote=SolidSnake84;853830][B]Maybe now some apologies can be given to some of the posters here who last week suggested that the skins win 4 games this year. After watching today's game, 4 wins is very believable.[/B]

The worst thing is, after another few losses, people will be calling for Shanahan to be fired, and he probably will be, and we are left in the same situation we have been in a million times before. A team with no QB, no real coach primed to take over, and a roster of players who may have been talented once, but can't play as a team.[/quote]

here here :)

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[quote=Chico23231;853856]I think the biggest realization after the game is, its official, we have no QB who is NFL starter material. Regardless of the Oline play and the poor coaching by Kyle, we need talent at that position. They really could draft 2 guys at QB.[/quote]
Kellen Moore, Nick Foles, or Tannehill from A&M. Landry Jones is up there as well. OOps forgot Keenum from Houston. Tons of talent to choose from. I would also get Dan Persa in the 3rd round. Guy is mobile, and accurate with his passing. Maybe too small to expect to be a starter, but would make a great backup. Very possible he doesn't go til the 4th round, so even better. I would get a G sandwiched between the two QBs.

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If Persa goes in the 4th get yet another G or T. We have a lot of missed time in rebuilding as the FO has been neglecting the lines under Cerrato.

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[B]Ryan Torain[/B] was especially bad today. There's no reason for him to be on this team if we're pulling him off the field in third down so our best runner can block for a quarterback who can't sense pressure. If Helu, Hankerson, Austin, and Paul lead our skill players in reps, you can salvage a bunch of positives out of this season. But that means less Torain, and it means less...

[B]Anthony Armstrong[/B] has been very disappointing after I called him a number 1 receiver last year. I don't think he's going to be able to hold off Hankerson the rest of the season anymore, and I think the Moss injury really hurts him. With Austin stepping in for Moss, there's no one between Armstrong and a third round rookie who is getting better every week.

[B]Kyle and Mike Shanahan[/B] who, in light of the last two weeks, scripted an end around to Donte Stallworth on the second play of the game. If you think they have any solutions to the offense, just consider that they put that in during the week, and then you are quite aware that this offense is getting worse before it gets better.

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Four wins would be a success. Matt FREAKING Moore looked better on a shitty Dolphins line than Beck did on 3/5 of the Redskins starters. I couldn't remember what I said right after the game, but I posted this on the Facebook page of the Skins:

What makes me the most angry isn't the fact they lost, it's the fact it's the same product year in, year out. It's "___________ team has the __________ in the league!" and basically you can fill in the blanks with something the Redskins give up. I never hear, "Wow, the Redskins 32nd ranked defense really stifled the Patriots tonight." It's, "Wow, the FREAKING BILLS, played their best defensive game in years against the Redskins." So many records, first-times, and comeback-player-of-the-year awards come against them. I'm SO tired of it and so cynical lately that it makes me sad that I watch games and laugh when the obvious happens.

Am I wrong? I look back at my old posts and it makes me sad. How many years of bullshit do we all have to collectively deal with?

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[quote=mooby;853862]You talk about being smart, then say we will most likely get to draft Andrew Luck. I believe a smart person would realize that we have 3 more wins than the two worst teams in the NFL, one of which (the Colts) look almost guaranteed to lose every remaining game this season. How do you see us finishing with more losses than the Colts or Dolphins? [B]Sorry bro but in this season of historical ineptitude across the NFL, we still have a long way to go to be considered in position to grab Luck[/B].[/quote]

I hear alotta people saying something similiar to this. It is too early to speculate on draft order and what not, but any team who wants a player bad enough, a package can be placed together to go and get that player. The Falcons did it last year and yeah we can debate the move, but thats the guy they wanted. If we are around the same spot as last year, its not outta the question offering our spot, next year's first, and additional picks to move up to grab the guy. Luck is pretty gud, nothing is guarenteed, but he seems to be special.

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[quote=GTripp0012;853876][B]Ryan Torain[/B] was especially bad today. There's no reason for him to be on this team if we're pulling him off the field in third down so our best runner can block for a quarterback who can't sense pressure. If Helu, Hankerson, Austin, and Paul lead our skill players in reps

[B]Anthony Armstrong[/B] has been very disappointing after I called him a number 1 receiver last year. I don't think he's going to be able to hold off Hankerson the rest of the season anymore, and I think the Moss injury really hurts him. With Austin stepping in for Moss, there's no one between Armstrong and a third round rookie who is getting better every week.

[B]Kyle and Mike Shanahan[/B] who, in light of the last two weeks, scripted an end around to Donte Stallworth on the second play of the game. If you think they have any solutions to the offense, just consider that they put that in during the week, and then you are quite aware that this offense is getting worse before it gets better.[/quote]

Yeah wtf was that crap at the start of the game with those end arounds? Kyle...pack your bags. I've seen enough!

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;853877]Four wins would be a success. Matt FREAKING Moore looked better on a shitty Dolphins line than Beck did on 3/5 of the Redskins starters. I couldn't remember what I said right after the game, but I posted this on the Facebook page of the Skins:

What makes me the most angry isn't the fact they lost, it's the fact it's the same product year in, year out. It's "___________ team has the __________ in the league!" and basically you can fill in the blanks with something the Redskins give up. I never hear, "Wow, the Redskins 32nd ranked defense really stifled the Patriots tonight." It's, "Wow, the FREAKING BILLS, played their best defensive game in years against the Redskins." So many records, first-times, and comeback-player-of-the-year awards come against them. I'm SO tired of it and so cynical lately that it makes me sad that I watch games and laugh when the obvious happens.

Am I wrong? I look back at my old posts and it makes me sad. How many years of bullshit do we all have to collectively deal with?[/quote]At least one more after this. But if the Redskins aren't competitive in the NFC East by 2013, there's been another big screw up in the organization that hasn't yet happened at this point.

As long as Shanny is in charge, I think it would be prudent to expect that poor decisions will be the norm.

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[quote=GusFrerotte;853871]Kellen Moore, Nick Foles, or Tannehill from A&M. Landry Jones is up there as well. OOps forgot Keenum from Houston. Tons of talent to choose from. I would also get Dan Persa in the 3rd round. Guy is mobile, and accurate with his passing. Maybe too small to expect to be a starter, but would make a great backup. Very possible he doesn't go til the 4th round, so even better. I would get a G sandwiched between the two QBs.[/quote]

Yeah but who's going to be in charge of picking the QB? Cause right now, I simply don't trust the Shanahan's when it comes to picking a qb.