Laron Landry - Redskin for life?
 

Good article by Mike Wise.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/laron-landrys-fortunes-will-be-telling-for-the-redskins/2011/11/23/gIQANaRypN_story.html]LaRon Landry’s fortunes will be telling for the Redskins - The Washington Post[/url]

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Hell no.

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we need to re-sign him. if we dont, it just opens up another huge hole in this team.

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Landry is a bag of upper body muscle.

But he is hot a high caliber safety.
I'm not even sure if he is a medium caliber safety.

He's an athlete but hes not a smart one.

He's not a game changer.

He doesn't make big plays.

He's injury prone.

If his contract is up let him go we can do better.

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I think they'll resign him if he gets back to 100%.

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[quote=53Fan;862855]I think they'll resign him if he gets back to 100%.[/quote]

They can't be so stupid to let him walk away, at least trade him if it's possible after they franchise him.

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Don't break the bank for him but he's a valuable piece to the defense when healthy.

We gotta start keeping our players. If the price is a reasonable deal that fits what he's done. Sign him and cross that off the list.

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I definitely dont think hes worth a franchise tag, but im all for bringing him back i mean were not going to find anyone better then him for his spot and our safety position is already pretty weak. Im wondering if he just needs to pop his acl and get it fixed for good though

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[quote=WilbursHomie;862859]We gotta start keeping our players. If the price is a reasonable deal that fits what he's done. Sign him and cross that off the list.[/quote]

Yeah exactly. Just ask Carlos Rodgers aka the number 3 interception leader in the league.... PRIOR to his game tonight.

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I'd let him walk if we're looking at top 5 safety dollars, otherwise you gotta keep your own. It's just how it has to be.

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Don't overpay for this guy. He hasn't shown enough to be worthy of being kept for the big bucks like Chris Samuels was. His Achilles better be fixed up right as well.

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[quote=mlmpetert;862863]Yeah exactly. Just ask Carlos Rodgers aka the number 3 interception leader in the league.... PRIOR to his game tonight.[/quote]

Carlos Rogers refused to agree to a reasonable deal and got his panties all wet that we didn't give him a sympathy contract. Overpaying for players is overpaying for players, regardless of whether that player was one of your own or not.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;862850]Landry is a bag of upper body muscle.

But he is hot a high caliber safety.
I'm not even sure if he is a medium caliber safety.

He's an athlete but hes not a smart one.

He's not a game changer.

He doesn't make big plays.

He's injury prone.

If his contract is up let him go we can do better.[/quote]

definitely disagree. he was awesome last season before he got injured for the season. this year he is playing injured and he has been so so, but he still has the potential to be a game changer just like he was last season. we need to bring him back.

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Imagining our team with no more of Area-51 just seems impossible to me..

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Yeah i agree. I just would have loved to kept Carlos, but definitely not at any price. And the exact same is true for LL. And like IR Mitch above, no way he should get top 5 money safety money. But i dont think we should ever low ball our own player. I would also give a player we drafted or developed a slight premium.

Landry needs to get healthy. Like full surgery, rest up, take a few months to recover. This half ass rehab isn't cutting it

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[quote=SmootSmack;862887]Landry needs to get healthy. Like full surgery, rest up, take a few months to recover. This half ass rehab isn't cutting it[/quote]

With the way he didn't take sitting out a game very well, I feel that it's going to take a strong kick in the 'nads to get him to do that.

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[quote=SmootSmack;862887]Landry needs to get healthy. Like full surgery, rest up, take a few months to recover. This half ass rehab isn't cutting it[/quote]

Needless to say the way he threw the training staff under the bus.

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Landry is probably the most important member of the defense, if you compare the performance of the unit without him to the performance of the unit with him. I think he flashes good coverage ability, but clearly the numbers say that he hasn't put it altogether yet.

Remember, that before teams figured out that you could double move the crap out of him, top QBs like Kurt Warner, Drew Brees, etc just wouldn't throw at him. Recently, I don't know if he's been on the field long enough to show that he's learned his lesson against these double moves, but he's been an impact player for us most of his career.

Is he an elite safety? Well, no. Regardless of what the tape says, elite safeties play more than 16 games in two seasons.

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[quote=SmootSmack;862887]Landry needs to get healthy. Like full surgery, rest up, take a few months to recover. This half ass rehab isn't cutting it[/quote]

Do you think if Laron was signed thru a long term deal that he would have opted for the surgery?

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n/a

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I don't really care if Landry re-signs or not. There are other strong safeties that will be on the market. During most of his tenure in Washington, Landry has underachieved. He was a high draft pick, and while he's a solid player, he hasn't developed into a elite safety. Not everyone can be Troy Polamalu, but Landry plays less than a sixth round pick should. After making the transition to Hasslet's 3-4 defense last year after playing strong safety in the 4-3 for the first 3 years of his career, he's become a more solid player. If Allen and Shanahan decide to not re-sign him, I wouldn't be surprised.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;862915]I don't really care if Landry re-signs or not. There are other strong safeties that will be on the market. During most of his tenure in Washington, Landry has underachieved. He was a high draft pick, and while he's a solid player, he hasn't developed into a elite safety. Not everyone can be Troy Polamalu, but Landry plays less than a sixth round pick should. After making the transition to Hasslet's 3-4 defense last year after playing strong safety in the 4-3 for the first 3 years of his career, he's become a more solid player. If Allen and Shanahan decide to not re-sign him, I wouldn't be surprised.[/quote]

Then why wouldn't they have traded him before the season? If he leaves via FA we get a compensation pick, I would have rather have gotten something better.

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;862915][B]I don't really care if Landry re-signs or not. There are other strong safeties that will be on the market.[/B] During most of his tenure in Washington, Landry has underachieved. He was a high draft pick, and while he's a solid player, he hasn't developed into a elite safety. Not everyone can be Troy Polamalu, but Landry plays less than a sixth round pick should. After making the transition to Hasslet's 3-4 defense last year after playing strong safety in the 4-3 for the first 3 years of his career, he's become a more solid player. If Allen and Shanahan decide to not re-sign him, I wouldn't be surprised.[/quote]

statements like this are what kill me about a lot of redskins fans. the nfl is not fantasy football, you can't just grab some guy and plug him in and think he will fit. we have tried it and failed many times and now the eagles are doing the same. i think landry needs to have surgery and get healthy and remain a redskin. if he is playing football he needs to be on this team, we don't have the ability to add another need to the list.

i agree though that the price does have to be right but hopefully allen can make that happen, that is his job afterall. and hopefully this can be the way the new redskins operate, make players we draft want to stay here and keep them here. if there is one common theme amongst the top teams in the league, player retention has to be up there.

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[quote=mlmdub130;862966]statements like this are what kill me about a lot of redskins fans. the nfl is not fantasy football, you can't just grab some guy and plug him in and think he will fit. we have tried it and failed many times and now the eagles are doing the same. i think landry needs to have surgery and get healthy and remain a redskin. if he is playing football he needs to be on this team, we don't have the ability to add another need to the list.

i agree though that the price does have to be right but hopefully allen can make that happen, that is his job afterall. and hopefully this can be the way the new redskins operate, make players we draft want to stay here and keep them here. if there is one common theme amongst the top teams in the league, player retention has to be up there.[/quote]

Great point. pretty crazy how quick people have turned on him because of injuries, yes I know he is not an elite safety, yes he does trash talk to much but you cant deny his talent. I dont get comments like "get rid of him "we can get someone better.... WHO ? who are you gonna pickup in free agency or draft and tell me they will do a better job than Laron. Gotta start paying and keeping our own players here. How many seasons we gonna keep reshuffling our roster over and over. I think this is the perfect opportunity for the front office to show that indeed this is a new era for the redskins where we dont get rid of our players for over priced free agents. we have a bunch of needs to address through draft and free agency, safety should not be one of them.

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[quote=GTripp0012;862894]Landry is probably the most important member of the defense, if you compare the performance of the unit without him to the performance of the unit with him. I think he flashes good coverage ability, but clearly the numbers say that he hasn't put it altogether yet.

Remember, that before teams figured out that you could double move the crap out of him, top QBs like Kurt Warner, Drew Brees, etc just wouldn't throw at him. Recently, I don't know if he's been on the field long enough to show that he's learned his lesson against these double moves, but he's been an impact player for us most of his career.

Is he an elite safety? Well, no. Regardless of what the tape says, elite safeties play more than 16 games in two seasons.[/quote]


Agree 100% and with SS about the injuries. You dont let him walk but you cant give him a ton of cash either. If he needs surgury, do it now and IR him and get him ready for next season. If you IR, brings down his value to other teams as well.

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Cant we transition tag him?

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[quote=T.O.Killa;862990]Cant we transition tag him?[/quote]

Can we? Idk if that returned in the new CBA.

They can, though I'm not sure it makes sense to do so.

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From what I have heard - - not from Landry or his agent nor from Bruce Allen - - Landry is aiming for $35M guaranteed in his next deal.

Let me ASSUME that is the right number. If that is what it will take to sign him, I would show him the door and thank him for his services to the Redskins up until that moment.

LaRon Landry is a one-trick pony. Someone here said his coverage skills are improving; I have to admit that I do not see that improvement. Unless his coverage skills improve by 100% between now and New Years Day, he is never going to be more than an average safety in the NFL who makes a lot of highlight reel hits.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;863036]From what I have heard - - not from Landry or his agent nor from Bruce Allen - - Landry is aiming for $35M guaranteed in his next deal.

Let me ASSUME that is the right number. If that is what it will take to sign him, I would show him the door and thank him for his services to the Redskins up until that moment.

LaRon Landry is a one-trick pony. Someone here said his coverage skills are improving; I have to admit that I do not see that improvement. Unless his coverage skills improve by 100% between now and New Years Day, he is never going to be more than an average safety in the NFL who makes a lot of highlight reel hits.[/quote]Well, at that price, he's not going to get that from any team, so it's not realistic.

He's the no. 2 safety on the market right now after Oakland's Tyvon Branch. The second largest contract to a safety this past year was given to Michael Huff, who got $16 million guaranteed.

It's probably going to cost more than $10 million in guaranteed money to resign Landry, but I don't think he's getting anywhere close to $36 million. Probably not even in total money.

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Yep, we drop Landry and add another big hole on this defense. We could always just make Reed Doughty full time starter for cheaper right? lol

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[quote=Bucket;863042]Yep, we drop Landry and add another big hole on this defense. We could always just make Reed Doughty full time starter for cheaper right? lol[/quote]

Actually I think Gomes would take over the position, not Doughty. I'm actually not sure whether if we should give him the big contract that he is "supposedly" seeking for. Like everyone says, Landry sucks with coverage but he makes our defense fearsome and win us some games (sometimes). If I was Allen, I would give him a contract where he can make some big money based on incentives.

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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;863036]From what I have heard - - not from Landry or his agent nor from Bruce Allen - - [B]Landry is aiming for $35M guaranteed in his next deal.
[/B]
Let me ASSUME that is the right number. If that is what it will take to sign him, I would show him the door and thank him for his services to the Redskins up until that moment.

LaRon Landry is a one-trick pony. Someone here said his coverage skills are improving; I have to admit that I do not see that improvement. Unless his coverage skills improve by 100% between now and New Years Day, he is never going to be more than an average safety in the NFL who makes a lot of highlight reel hits.[/quote]

lolololololololololololololol...i hope they dont test Landry for tweeds anytime soon

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[quote=Bucket;863042]Yep, we drop Landry and add another big hole on this defense. We could always just make Reed Doughty full time starter for cheaper right? lol[/quote]

Landry doesnt play a lot. He already is a hole on the defense.
Lets fill the hole.
We can do better.

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Landry is frustrating no doubt about it .. but i'm surprised how quickly Redskins Nation has turned on this guy .. are you kidding me ? Are we rebuilding me...yes...does that mean letting your STARTING Safety go that is about to be in his prime ? Hell yeah he's been injury prone and he trash talks way to much but I think due to all the crappy play this season and last we are forgetting this dude is a beast and would be STUPID to let go. No way they don't re-sign him. OJ & Landry are one the few places we actually should be locked up for awhile .. Cut the dude some slack on injuries .. oh BTW we have plenty of cap space and $$$ to re-sign our quality players.

Re: Laron Landry - Redskin for life?
 

[quote=mlmdub130;862966]statements like this are what kill me about a lot of redskins fans. the nfl is not fantasy football, you can't just grab some guy and plug him in and think he will fit. we have tried it and failed many times and now the eagles are doing the same. i think landry needs to have surgery and get healthy and remain a redskin. if he is playing football he needs to be on this team, we don't have the ability to add another need to the list.

i agree though that the price does have to be right but hopefully allen can make that happen, that is his job afterall. and hopefully this can be the way the new redskins operate, make players we draft want to stay here and keep them here. if there is one common theme amongst the top teams in the league, player retention has to be up there.[/quote]


I never said that the National Football League was fantasy football. I just wouldn't be surprised if Landry isn't re-signed. Allen and Shanahan could very well re-sign him, but I'm sure they're looking at the alternatives as well. There's very good safeties coming out of college that would fit in Haslet's scheme, most notably Baccari Rambo of Georgia. All I'm saying that in five seasons so far, LaRon Landry hasn't played like a 6th overall pick should play.

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I think the front office and coaches will watch LaRon's final games to see how he plays with this achilles injury. This will determine if we value his services for the future. LaRon is a impact player that offenses must prepare for when he is on the field. I think Haslet has learned how to use LaRon more effective over the past 2 seasons. I think if he injury will not be a long term problem we need to bring him back.

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Yeah, Carlos Rogers sucks. He is the worst CB and we should just let him walk.....
Oh, this is the bash Landry thread. I shouldn't of drank all of that cough syrup.
We 'upgraded' by getting rid of last years fall guy Carlos Rogers and replaced him with someone worse than Rogers. NOw Rogers is having a good year in SF and we are stuck with shit.
Now the impatient lynch mob now has their sights on Landry. Part of a losing team and losing culture is when things go bad everyone turns on each other. No loyalty.
Looks like Snyder has changed and is no longer an impatient child. Some of the fans have yet to change. Building a winning team takes time.