Report: Fred Davis, Trent Williams suspended four games
 

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Can they appeal?

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Get it done now while this yr is over

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Both of them are ****ing idiots.

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that is a little severe for a first time offender, especially if its pot. You got Suh with a history of slamming peoples faces in the ground and trying to hurt other players, all while the nation is watching, and he gets two games.

These two guys smoke some pot DURING the lockout when they were not legally employed, and then once the NFLPA signs the agreement, they get tested, test positive, and get hit with a FOUR game suspension? Man oh man, seems that the NFLs priorities are all fvcked up. Hopefully it will get reduced to at least 3 games so they wont miss any next year.

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I agree that they are idiots, but for a first offense, 4 games seems alot, especially when more blatent and violent infractions get a far lesser sentence. A little BS. Not advocating drugs tho, just that the commissioner has his head way up his asshole.

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[quote=Mechanix544;865193]that is a little severe for a first time offender, especially if its pot. You got Suh with a history of slamming peoples faces in the ground and trying to hurt other players, all while the nation is watching, and he gets two games.

These two guys smoke some pot DURING the lockout when they were not legally employed, and then once the NFLPA signs the agreement, they get tested, test positive, and get hit with a FOUR game suspension? Man oh man, seems that the NFLs priorities are all fvcked up. Hopefully it will get reduced to at least 3 games so they wont miss any next year.[/quote]

According to the source, they're not first time offenders; if I'm reading it correctly, they don't get suspended until the third time they get busted? In that case, they truly are idiots.

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Just saw this on the NFL website... At least they negotiated a deal for only four games versus being out for the rest of the season... Ah well Ill be interested to see what happens to that o-line...

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If this isnt their first time, then throw the frikkin book at the addicts, maybe they will learn their lesson and save that shit for when they retire, but considering the source, Im sure they will just keep on with the fvckin POS act, they are after all from tha HOOD. Their hard lemme tell you.........fvckin idiots. The sense of entitlement these douchebags have is insane, I hope they get everything they have taken away from them, fvckin taking a chance at killing their golden goose for some weed............

You don't get suspended your first time, you only get suspended after multiple positive tests.

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Great, 2 young talented players with multiple failed drug test.

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I am less concerned that they will miss these last 4 meaningless games, than the fact that this may end up being an ongoing issue with players that you hope to build a future with. If they weren't smart enough to stay away from whatever it was after 2 failed drug tests, they may not be smart enough to stay away in the future. See: Ricky Williams.

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CAN THE SKINS EVER WIN? Now this happens

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This is great news! Less of a chance for us to win, AND they'll know better, AND its during meaningless games!

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Jay Glazer said 2 game suspension and only one Redskin involved.

Prob TW

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Posted at 03:45 PM ET, 12/04/2011
Redskins’ Trent Williams and Fred Davis to be suspended for the rest of the season
By Rick Maese and Mike Jones

Updated: 3:45 p.m.:

The NFL is expected to notify Redskins left tackle Trent Williams and tight end Fred Davis that each will miss the remainder of the season due to multiple failed drug tests under a settlement reached between the league and the NFL Players Association Saturday.

The players will be formally notified of their four-game suspensions in the next couple of days, according to a person familiar with the situation.

Because the season-ending suspensions are part of a deal , neither player will be able to appeal and neither is expected to see any more action this season.

Each player has failed at least three drug tests since entering the league, according to a league source, including two failures since the lockout ended in July. Davis, a fourth-year tight end, and Williams, a second-year offensive tackle, were part of a group of 11 players who failed drug tests shortly after reporting for training camp in July.

The league and the union have been negotiating on the fate of that group since August, deciding whether the NFL would grant those players a “grace period,” because of the lockout.

While nine of the 11 players will face no punishment for their failed tests, Davis and Williams will be suspended because they subsequently failed another drug test after the regular season began in September, according to the person with knowledge of the situation.

Spokesmen for the league and the union declined comment Sunday. A team spokesman said the team had not been notified of any punishment against either player.

Under terms of the league’s substance abuse program, a player with three failed tests for recreational drugs is subject to a year-long suspension from the NFL. Because one of the offenses came during the “grace period,” the union negotiated the suspension down to four games, the typical punishment for a second offense.

Both NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and DeMaurice Smith, executive director of the NFL Players Association, worked personally on the settlement, and the two sides agreed in principle to the deal on Saturday. Sports Illustrated first reported the news Sunday afternoon.

Davis and Williams were aware this week that a suspension was likely and took the field on Sunday afternoon against the New York Jets knowing it would likely be their last game this season.

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Washington Redskins tight end Fred Davis and left tackle Trent Williams will be suspended for four games after failing drug tests at the end of the NFL lockout, according to a Sports Illustrated report.

Davis and Williams were among 11 players who failed drug tests. But there was some controversy over the matter because players weren’t subject to testing during the lockout and were told by NFLPA head DeMaurice Smith that they would receive a grace period before the tests began.

According to the SI.com report, the two suspensions stem from the fact that Davis and Williams have both tested positive for marijuana during the season and because it was at least each player’s third offense under the policy.

Under a settlement reached between the league and the players association, no players who tested positive during the grace period would receive discipline. But Williams and Davis failed tests both during the grace period and after the period ended.

When reached for comment on Sunday, a league spokesman declined comment.

News first surfaced of the failed drug tests shortly before Washington’s game at Miami three weeks ago, and word at the time was that both players faced fines. After the game, both Williams and Davis said that they had no comment on the matter.

At the time, Davis said he had yet to hear from the NFL but had been briefed by his agent, Drew Rosenhaus. “I’m not going to comment on that until that situation comes,” he said then. Williams said, “I don’t know anything about that.”

Redskins coach Mike Shanahan said at the time that he couldn’t comment either.

A team spokesman said Sunday morning that the Redskins have no knowledge of the suspensions.

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[quote]Each player has failed at least three drug tests since entering the league, according to a league source, including two failures since the lockout ended in July. Davis, a fourth-year tight end, and Williams, a second-year offensive tackle, were part of a group of 11 players who failed drug tests shortly after reporting for training camp in July.[/quote]

Cool. So we have a couple of potheads. :doh: Well that's great. Way to be committed young professionals guys. I've got it! It's a negotiating ploy! They are going to use it as a tactic to show how valuable they are to our offense by showing us film of how bad we suck when both aren't in the lineup! Brilliant!

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A lot of black people love weed, there is nothing more important to them than marijuana.

Its truly sad that they know they have a lot to lose and the fact that 52 other guys are depending on them and they still go ahead and do it anyways.

Dumb, selfish, immature boys is what they are. They aren't men.

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THREE F...N TIMES???
Come on man...........
They DO NOT deserve a reduction in sentence...

Hey SD we don't need to bring the black card into this matter please

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[quote=skinsfaninok;865394]Hey SD we don't need to bring the black card into this matter please[/quote]

I'll second that. I know way too many white people who smoke pot to think that it's just a black people thing.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;865392]A lot of people love weed, there is nothing more important to them than marijuana.

Its truly sad that they know they have a lot to lose and the fact that 52 other guys are depending on them and they still go ahead and do it anyways.

Dumb, selfish, immature boys is what they are. They aren't men.[/quote]

fixed it for ya

I'm
Not calling SD out just saying some folks take things personal even when your not meaning it

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[quote=Mattyk;865396]fixed it for ya[/quote]
Sooo.....Painless

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[quote=skinsfaninok;865394]Hey SD we don't need to bring the black card into this matter please[/quote]

About the pot thing I totally agree, but the "black" card at some point needs to be addressed with in terms of other matters. More white folks smoke pot than probably the entire black population combined, but the rate of drug offenses, hard drug offenses and gun related violence is almost exclusively among black players. The question should be asked Why? And more importantly, why is it not combatted with more fervor? Why aren't these questions asked? It because it would open a non PC can of worms in respect to race, and the subculture of the streets. You can bury your head in the sand with the PC stuff, but the only way to deal and correct problems is first identifying there is a problem, ask why it is happening, and hit the problem head on. Sweeping it under the rug as to not to offend some folks is lunacy. It is one of the major factors our society is so screwed up. Nobody wants to deal with the problems as to not offend even a minority of people.

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Hey man, I can't believe it was even said. I at least hope the culprit is black, because it is way out of line to call it a black thing. These two morons, especialy Trent Williams have been paid enough money that they should not be putting themselves in this situation.

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our offense is really gonna go down the crapper now

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[quote=T.O.Killa;865411] These two morons, especialy Trent Williams have been paid enough money that they should not be putting themselves in this situation.[/quote]

Now we know why Williams wasn't practicing with the rest of his mates during the strike, he was too stoned!!

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;865415]Now we know why Williams wasn't practicing with the rest of his mates during the strike, he was too stoned!![/quote]

now we know why he overslept

:Smoker:

:sleep:

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You all know the reason they say Maurice Hurt went in the seventh round was because he failed a drug test at the combine.

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[quote=T.O.Killa;865419]You all know the reason they say Maurice Hurt went in the seventh round was because he failed a drug test at the combine.[/quote]

They should all get medicinal marijuana cards.

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Am I the only one that thinks this is a little bit of overkill for smoking pot?

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[quote=WaldSkins;865423]Am I the only one that thinks this is a little bit of overkill for smoking pot?[/quote]

Nope, I'm with ya... and I'm straight-edge nowadays. The league has its priorities screwed up, when it comes to weed. In a few years (when the drug has been decriminalized) the next generation is going to laugh at stuff like this.

"Addicts", "idiots," and "black people love weed" are examples of hyperbole within this entire thread regarding the situation.

Fred Davis is having a career season- one of the top three tight ends in the NFL this year. But yeah... his three strikes are obviously affecting his play.

Waiting for the inevitable "The rules are there! They screwed the team!"

Yup, I'm sure all the lawyers, bankers and doctors in this country only stick to alcohol... the much safer substance because it's legal. /sarcasm

"But the entire legal, financial and medical fields don't require drug tests! The NFL does, so they must follow the rules!" Yeah, I've heard it before... the league is just delaying the inevitable.

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Yea, they're idiots.
And yes its a heavy handed sentencing from the league.
I like the Suh comparison too.

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If people would actually step away from their pre-conceived notions, they'd learn that professional football is one profession where its Sunday employees would benefit from an offseason pot session or three. If lawyers and doctors can smoke to relieve stress, a running back who's taken several hundred hits to the body would reap the benefits of eating a spring-time THC cookie.

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[quote=WaldSkins;865423]Am I the only one that thinks this is a little bit of overkill for smoking pot?[/quote]

Maybe, but its not smoking pot once or twice, its for smoking pot 3 times when youre employer says that they dont allow their employers to smoke pot. The most troubling thing for me is that TW and Davis are both willing to risk getting paid millions of dollars for doing something they supposedly love in order to get high.

TW had been in the league for a solid year and he had been caught 3 times. Is anyone else really really worried about that? And while some may say a 4 game suspension for getting caught smoking weed 3 times may be overkill thats what the rule is. I wonder what the rule is for the inevitable 4th time.

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All I want to know is how much money is this costing them

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Everyone keeps saying it is pot. Did I miss something in the articles or is everyone just assuming?

[QUOTE=mlmpetert;865445]Maybe, but its not smoking pot once or twice, its for smoking pot 3 times when youre employer says that they dont allow their employers to smoke pot. The most troubling thing for me is that TW and Davis are both willing to risk getting paid millions of dollars for doing something they supposedly love in order to get high.

TW had been in the league for a solid year and he had been caught 3 times. Is anyone else really really worried about that? And while some may say a 4 game suspension for getting caught smoking weed 3 times may be overkill thats what the rule is. I wonder what the rule is for the inevitable 4th time.[/QUOTE]

It's amazing that people don't realize 3 positive tests in the NFL is a years suspension, not 4 games. If there was no lockout they'd be gone for a year. But because of the lockout, they made a deal that tw and fd only have the two post lockout positive tests count, so it's 4 game suspensions for both.