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Moss to the Raiders for Phillip Buchanon and the 7th overall pick. I think the Vikes would probably end up taking Mike Williams here, not sure though. What do you all think?

I know this isn't a Skins article, but I thought it was worth discussing.

It's perfectly relevant givn the amount of conjecture over Moss.

I'd still want Williams, I think he'd be key to our offense being able to strech the field, Plaxico as a second option, not that far behind as a choice.

I dont know why they would trade moss to get williams. I mean, I know why they would, but wouldnt you rather have the proven commodity @ WR.

I could defintley see that trade going down, but I dont know if they would take Williams w/ that pick.

That's a tremendous trade for the Vikings. You improve your defense at a critical and needed position and you draft a super talented receiver to replace Moss, who is more trouble than he is worth - at least for any team that doesn't know how to handle him.

If Norv can handle Moss properly - that is, not have Moss rules for him and another set of rules for everyone else - then it could be a good move for Oakland too. The Vikings have appeased Moss to such a degree that he thinks he can behave in whatever rude or undignified way and not only get away with it, but be given special treatment. So its no surprise he acts the way he does.

If Moss can learn to accept that he is just a player like everyone else and doesn't deserve any special treatment, if he can channel his energies properly, then Oakland gets an electric player at wideout to generate huge interest in the team - which they need. Their home games don't sell out and are usually blacked out in the San Francisco Bay Area.

good trade for the vikes but im not sure buchannon is what they need either

its an awesome trade for the vikes.
they get rid of a very talented and proven crybaby.
they get rid of a monster contract.

they get a solid cornerback.
and a good draftpick.

with the money they save from getting rid of moss, they could sign, buchanon, the draft pick and even a guy like plexico and still have some money left over.

atleast that trade is reasonable, unlike the bs that people were saying about our trade.

I cant beleive peopel woudl actually consider a first, second and lavar for moss, when you could keep those things, sign burress and have two great draft picks.

ive also heard ravens or jets

I've been hard on Moss, but today, I talked to a Vikings fan who told me about how he witnessed Moss visit homes with disabled kids and he had genuine smiles and treated the kids very decently, and made sure everyone got an autograph, etc. The Vikings fan said he likes Moss on a personal basis. I was glad to hear that about him, and I am sure that this the kind of person he is more than capable of being. However, if a team coddles him because of his talent and treats him as special, it not only creates resentment and destroys team spirit, it's giving Moss a big ego and inciting his least admirable traits to come to the surface.

[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES]atleast that trade is reasonable, unlike the bs that people were saying about our trade.
i cant beleive peopel woudl actually consider a first, second and lavar for moss, when you could keep those things, sign burress and have two great draft picks.



i agree with you 100%, if the skins made that trade , that would , without a doubt, be the worst move they have ever made.

That trade, yes. I'd give them two first rounders, next year's 3rd, and LeMarr Marshall.

Moss is not as bad as people make him out to be. The NFL tends to vilanize anyone who has a personality. Yet a jenuine criminal like Ray Lewis is somehow a poster boy for the NFL. If you are going to criticise Moss at all it should be for his tendancy to take a play off here or there, but all this other stuff is just nonsense.

As for the trade, I think the Raiders are obviously a great place for him to end up since they tend to accept flamboint players out there more than most NFL cities do. I think the trade was fair also. A starting player and a high draft pick is about his worth. Much more in line with that rediculous Redskins rumor.

Moss playing for Norv Turner equals one thing...100% disaster in every way. Norv is about the nicest guy I have ever met(I coached baseball in his son's baseball league 5 or 6 years ago and he was a great guy and did a lot for the league when he didn't have to. He also came to all of his kids games) but he couldn't even manage a team with the likes of Darrell Green and Brian Mitchell. We're talkign about a team full of consumate professionals and all we ever heard about was how nobdy respected him and how he had lost control. Now they're going to trade for Moss....Jeez Al Davis is stupid...no wonder they haven't done s*&% in years.

I agree that Randy Moss and Norv Turner is a marriage made in Hell. Norv is not a disciplinarian and never will be. Then again, who's to say that Al Davis is going to keep Norv around. It's not like Davis is any stranger to "changing coaches".

Phillip Buchanon is no treat either. He is unhappy with his contract and wants it re-done. Davis said no way so Buchanon said he wants out of Oakland and threatened not to participate in the off-season "voluntary" programs. Buchanon gets beat deep and that is what you do not want your CBs to do. Even with a perfect attitude, I'd look around to see if there were other options before bringing him on; with his braggadocio and inflated view of his on-field productivity, I'd forget to return any calls from him or his agent.

There's no way I'd want to give up multiple picks and players for Moss, just too steep of a price to pay IMO.

For a proven player? I would in a second. I'm hoping next years first will be closer to a 2nd than a first =p

i'll give them smoot, gardner and this years 3rd pick for moss but thats it. unless smoot becomes reasonable in his contract negotiations then i say keep smoot and give them bowen, gardner and next years #1 pick

they'd never take a 3rd rounder for Moss.

[QUOTE=Daseal]they'd never take a 3rd rounder for Moss.


thats why i added smoot and gardner. smoot, gardner and a 1st would be to much.

[QUOTE=wolfeskins][QUOTE=Daseal]they'd never take a 3rd rounder for Moss.


thats why i added smoot and gardner. smoot, gardner and a 1st would be to much.[/QUOTE]


I don't think we can trade Smoot since he's gonna be a FA. We gotta have him under contract in order to trade him.

You can franchise and trade can't you?

Gardner is maybe a 3rd rounder, Smoot is maybe a late first, early 2nd rounder in quality. I love Smoot, but he's not exactly a top tier CB in this league. He's better than most teams starters, but MN has Winfield who is simply awesome.

Smoot trade and tag might be the way to go in the fact we would get something for Smoot even if it isn't Moss.

[QUOTE=Mattyk72]There's no way I'd want to give up multiple picks and players for Moss, just too steep of a price to pay IMO.[/QUOTE]

I should have clarified a bit, I wouldn't want to give up multiple HIGH picks and players. If the Vikes shop Moss I can't see them taking anything less than 2 first rounders and another lower round pick thrown in.

i do'nt think gibbs wants anything to do with randy"i play when i want too"moss,do you guys?i'd love to see plaxico in dc,but not clarett.

i've heard the rumors of Moss in Baltimore...and i've heard the stories about his off-field work with charities and such...

however, i still would not want him in a Redskins uniform...too much baggage for a team looking for unity...

Moss would be a decent fit in Oakland...he would compliment Jerry Porter (if he stays), and it would spring Kerry Collins back into some sort of decent QB. i think Norv v. Moss would be a non-issue...Moss should worry more about Warren Sapp than Norval...

Anytime a big name player is available or may come available, as long as Danny is our owner the Skins will be mentioned as a possible destination. I think that's what we're seeing right now with Moss.

I'm feeling more that he will end up in Baltimore. Can't wait to see the headlines of "lack of chemistry" next year between Boller and Moss.

Boller did show signs of improvement over the course of the season but still, it's hard to see Moss there.

Actually, what I'd love to see with Moss in Baltimore is for Randy to leave the sidelines before a game was over and then have to explain to Ray Lewis and Ed Reed what he was thinking at that moment in time.

And if the explanation was not satisfactory, I suspect that Randy's mooning butt would get a size 13 EE suppository...

What about Moss to the Falcons? Can that happen? Do the Falcons have the money and personnel/picks to make such a deal?

Moss and Vick on the same team?! Judging by Vick's passing performance, I don't expect he will even become an ADEQUATE passer even with years under his belt. I think Moss would have an even harder time with him than Boller.

smootsmack:

I'll let Crazy Canuck do the math down to the decimal points, but I read somewhere that the Falcons have $10M of cap room heading into the off-season without making any roster adjustments. That means they have the cap room needed. Now about the players the Vikings ought to want on defense, that is not nearly as clear.

joey porter is all but gone in oakland,according to the nfl network.

If Porter does become available fire up Redskins One

[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Moss and Vick on the same team?! Judging by Vick's passing performance, I don't expect he will even become an ADEQUATE passer even with years under his belt. I think Moss would have an even harder time with him than Boller.[/QUOTE]

I just wonder if maybe Moss could improve Vick the way TO seemed to do with McNabb this year. I mean Peerless Price as a #1 receiver is not the answer in my opinion

As for Jerry Porter he is a local guy but I hear that he's anxious to reunite with Gruden in Tampa, and vice versa.

McNabb was an accurate QB beforehand. Vick just flat out has no aim. He has a great arm, but pocking passing just isn't his forte.

I found this on silver & black illustrated, possible trades for Moss, Skins not included thank god:

THE RAIDERS -- While this one would likely entail a sign-and-trade with WR Jerry Porter, Al Davis has always had a love thing for Moss and he would give the vertical offense Norv Turner loves a real shot in the arm.

* THE CARDINALS -- Denny Green has always loved Moss and was supportive of him from day one with the Vikings. The rumored deal here would send Anquan Boldin and the Cards No. 1 pick to the Vikings for Moss -- giving Green Moss and Larry Fitzgerald, another player with Green man-love all over him.

* THE JETS -- This one caught us by surprise, since the Jets have either used high draft picks or traded high draft picks in recent years to get wide receiver help. This deal would include trading Santana Moss and at least two picks or Moss, a defensive player and a pick.

* THE RAVENS -- Brian Billick made a splash going hard after Terrell Owens only to be rebuffed. If Moss is available, you can bet he will step up.

The wild card here is whether the Vikings have any interest whatsoever in trading Moss -- which it is possible they don't. If, however, teams get into a trade frenzy and the ante gets kicked up, anything is possible. One thing is for sure -- there are a lot of teams that believe Moss is available and that could lead to the "offer they couldn't refuse" being put on the table in the coming months.

Raiders... how ironic would that one be?

The word today is the Vikings owner has given the team permission to seek a trade for Moss, stay tuned.

What if Philly went after him? I understand there's probably no room for two egos that big on one team, but stranger things have happened (A-rod and Jeter on the same team)