RGIII Heisman Winner
 

So RGIII takes the Heisman. Does this raise his stock in the draft putting him into consideration for number 1? Could Luck be on our side and drop to us?

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Doesn't matter... I would be thrilled with either one..

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Congratulations RG3. Not sure if his stock can get any higher but, for the Skins to snag either him or Luck would be a blessing. I say the team needs to prepare to make a move up the board to draft one of the two if they are not already in a position to draft either.

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[quote=Jamaican'Skin;866702]So RGIII takes the Heisman. Does this raise his stock in the draft putting him into consideration for number 1? Could Luck be on our side and drop to us?[/quote]
I noticed all the former winners on stage prior to the announcement. One thing stood out......

None are currently in the NFL and there were a lot of QB's on that stage that are not preparing for a game tomorrow.

Stock shmock. No guarantees on any of them.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;866709]I noticed all the former winners on stage prior to the announcement. One thing stood out......

None are currently in the NFL and there were a lot of QB's on that stage that are not preparing for a game tomorrow.

Stock shmock. No guarantees on any of them.[/quote]

Name a QB that came with a guarantee.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;866709]I noticed all the former winners on stage prior to the announcement. One thing stood out......

None are currently in the NFL and there were a lot of QB's on that stage that are not preparing for a game tomorrow.

Stock shmock. No guarantees on any of them.[/quote]

Mmmm, ok. I know what you mean but, people have to know that it's unlikely that Luck and RG3 won't be drafted #1 and #2 overall.

Just saying the Heisman should not be as big a measuring stick as it used to be. Seems to be more Heisman busts in & out of the NFL in the most recent decade.

Just saying, grade the player and not the brass.

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Nah, what this is going to do is catapult him ahead of Barkley as the 2nd QB drafted. I'll be happy with him or Barkley, can't wait until we finally get a franchise QB.

[QUOTE=sandtrapjack;866709]I noticed all the former winners on stage prior to the announcement. One thing stood out......

None are currently in the NFL and there were a lot of QB's on that stage that are not preparing for a game tomorrow.

Stock shmock. No guarantees on any of them.[/QUOTE]

Was Cam Newton up there? Sorry man, winning the Heisman doesn't lower RG3's stock for me in any way. I would take him or Luck in a heartbeat.

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I would almost be more excited about him than Luck. Don't get me wrong, I think Luck is going to be an outstanding NFL QB, but after seeing all the articles and interviews with Griffin leading up to the Heisman I think he will be something special. In my opinion intelligence is more important than physical skills in terms of being a QB, but Griffin has both in spades.

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My question to the forum would be Barkley or RGIII

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[quote=diehardskin2982;866719]My question to the forum would be Barkley or RGIII[/quote]

RGIII by a mile. I would rather see us take a chance on someone that could be incredibly special than using a pick on a QB that's surrounded by first round talent from a program that has a history of producing QB's with overrated NFL potential.

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Yeah sorry but I'm not sold on USC Qbs , Leinart SUCKS, Palmer was Good but not great and Sanchez is about to get ran out of NY.

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Luck will go 1 but RG3 won't get past 5

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[quote=Shadowbyte;866716]Nah, what this is going to do is catapult him ahead of Barkley as the 2nd QB drafted. I'll be happy with him or Barkley, [B]can't wait until we finally get a franchise QB.[/B][/quote]

And with the 5th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Washington Redskins Select Dwayne Allen TE, Clemson.:)

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[quote=skinsfaninok;866722]Yeah sorry but I'm not sold on USC Qbs , Leinart SUCKS, Palmer was Good but not great and Sanchez is about to get ran out of NY.[/quote]

Very true and understandable. However, Leinart, Palmer, and especially Sanchez weren't being looked at as college QB's when they were in 8th Grade like Barkley was. Also Barkley took over as a True Freshman, beat out a highly rated Senior in Aaron Corp, and took USC with the fewest talent it had in years, to Columbus Ohio to beat Ohio State in a 2 minute drive to end the game. He's only gotten better, and he puts up great numbers against the pac 12. The difference off the bat between him, Leinart, and Sanchez, is that Matt always had great players around him with a weak arm. Barkley has a strong arm and has played with bad and great players, yet is consistent with whomever. Sanchez only played one year at USC with some good players. Barkley has been playing and starting for 3 straight years. Palmer on the other hand was a great player in college, and was starting to become great until he tore his ACL in that playoff game, and wasn't the same since.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;866725]And with the 5th pick in the 2012 NFL Draft the Washington Redskins Select Dwayne Allen TE, Clemson.:)[/quote]


Lmao..

Or

Breaking News: The Washington Redskins trade their 2nd round pick for Mark Sanchez after the jets get Manning

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Winning the Heisman doesn't mean squat when making it to the pro's. Does the name Archie Griffin rings a bell? Most great QB's in this league never won a Heisman (Montana, Brady, Manning, Rodgers, Favre) some did (Testaverde, Wuerfell, Leinart, Detmer, Weinke, Crouch, Troy Smith, Palmer, Tebow, Bradford, Charlie Ward, Torreta, Plunkett, Newton) so to me it means nothing, to be honest I rather have them not win it, it's like a curse.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;866727]Lmao..

Or

Breaking News: The Washington Redskins trade their 2nd round pick for Mark Sanchez after the jets get Manning[/quote]

Its a joke now; it'll be a reality later...lol

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I've never seen a Heisman trophy increase a QB's stock. If anything it only seems to hurt it, if for nothing more then increased scrutiny.

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[quote=Dirtbag59;866730]I've never seen a Heisman trophy increase a QB's stock. If anything it only seems to hurt it, if for nothing more then increased scrutiny.[/quote]

I understand and partially agree with what you're saying but this hasn't been the case lately. If Tim Tebow never would of won the Heisman ESPN and everyone else wouldn't have sensationalized him to the degree that they did. The same can be said for Matt Leinert. No way would he would of been a top 10 pick if he didn't win the Heisman. Now that the media has gone into hype overdrive Robert Griffin will be the most talked about pick next to Luck, infact this whole draft season will be comparing the 2 non-stop and everyone will give their opinions as to who should draft who and why. It's going to be the lead in story for months to come just you wait.

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Let me start by saying that RG3 deserved this more than any other player in college football. Do I think his stock is going to rise because of it? I would absolutely not. Scouts and GMs are going to grade this guy based solely on his skill set. His stock is going to rise in the combine.

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[quote=diehard;866713]Mmmm, ok. I know what you mean but, people have to know that it's unlikely that Luck and RG3 won't be drafted #1 and #2 overall.[/quote]


...why not?

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[quote=diehardskin2982;866719]My question to the forum would be Barkley or RGIII[/quote]

Personally I would pass on both, don't like either of them.

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[quote=r08kessl;866720]RGIII by a mile. I would rather see us take a chance on someone that could be incredibly special than using a pick on a QB that's surrounded by first round talent from a program that has a history of producing QB's with overrated NFL potential.[/quote]
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Agreed. I am very impressed by the way he plays but also how he conducts himself.

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I am also in favor of RGIII. I think his skill set and work ethic will carry him far.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;866722]Yeah sorry but I'm not sold on USC Qbs , Leinart SUCKS, Palmer was Good but not great and Sanchez is about to get ran out of NY.[/quote]

Palmer could have been a better QB if the Steelers had not taken him out during the playoffs a couple of seasons ago. Dont think he was the same after that knee injury.

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I notice on some of the highlights of RGIII he is wearing a knee brace. Does he have a bad knee?

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I love RGIII ...

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Barkley is our next qb, write it down.

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[quote=Defensewins;866769]I notice on some of the highlights of RGIII he is wearing a knee brace. Does he have a bad knee?[/quote]

Believe he missed most of 2009 with a torn ACL

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RGIII is an improved version of Jake Locker.

Barkley is an improved version of Mark Sanchez.

Either one of those quarterbacks make us a much better team. All things being equal I want RGIII because he has the higher ceiling and it would be awesome to have such an exciting player on our team. I'm look forward to 2012 season. I'm thinking we have a shot at the playoffs.

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[quote=Giantone;866736]...why not?[/quote]

Some team has to wake up and smell the coffee and realize there's more of sure thing drafting an OT or CB with either of those picks. I think the only way they go back to back is because of a trade.

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[quote=sdskinsfan2001;866893]RGIII is an improved version of Jake Locker.

Barkley is an improved version of Mark Sanchez.

Either one of those quarterbacks make us a much better team. All things being equal I want RGIII because he has the higher ceiling and it would be awesome to have such an exciting player on our team. I'm look forward to 2012 season. I'm thinking we have a shot at the playoffs.[/quote]

Barkley is heads above Sanchez. Everyone knocks on Sanchez but he wins when has to. I'd take Sanchez in a heart beat.

^ and you'd have JC all over again no thanks

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[quote=skinsfaninok;867206]^ and you'd have JC all over again no thanks[/quote]

Not even close. Look at Sanchez record during the season and playoffs.

We are talking overall player not record.. JC was on a shit team his whole career mark has a loaded roster to work with Huge difference. Sanchez will never lead a team to a SB win he's a better Rex grossman that's it

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[quote=skinsfaninok;867214]We are talking overall player not record.. JC was on a shit team his whole career mark has a loaded roster to work with Huge difference. Sanchez will never lead a team to a SB win he's a better Rex grossman that's it[/quote]

I'll take that bet. His numbers have improved every year, last year in the playoffs he was great, remember he's in his 3rd year with no training camp.

Weak arm and avg at best career numbers, he wasn't worth his draft pick, yeah he's won as a starter but so has Rex big deal. I'd take 15 QBs in the league today over him

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[quote=skinsfaninok;867220]Weak arm and avg at best career numbers, he wasn't worth his draft pick, yeah he's won as a starter but so has Rex big deal. I'd take 15 QBs in the league today over him[/quote]

Just curious, who would you take? Manning, Brees, Brady, etc. don't count.