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Redskins young OL will be strength next year
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/willie-smith-encouraged-by-showing-against-jason-pierre-paul/2011/12/18/gIQAr0z72O_blog.html#pagebreak]Willie Smith encouraged by showing against Jason Pierre-Paul - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]
The Redskins young OL is looking very promising and by next year should be very good. I love Willie Smith, Hurt and Polumbus are also doing a very good job and are adding depth to the line. The OL that looked to be a weakness after Buffalo game all of a sudden is making a resurgence. Next year I would make these guys my starters: LT Williams LG Lichtensteiger C Montgomery RG Chester RT Smith Reserves: Polumbus Hurt Draft a C and T Cut: Brown Locklear |
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If those guys pan out in whole or at least in part, it should help to create some quality depth by those displaced.....very encouraging
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I love this tidbit I found on Smith:
Overview [B]A two-year starter at left tackle, Smith is a remarkable athlete with a lot of upside. He earned All-Conference USA honors each of the past two seasons, and might have a higher ceiling than any tackle prospect in the 2011 NFL Draft. At this point in his development, Smith is too raw and inconsistent to project as a rookie starter in the NFL. Some offensive line coach is likely to be convinced he can coach Smith to block like Walter Jones every play, not just in spurts, and his draft status will reflect that potential of a probably Pro Bowler in two to three years.[/B] Analysis Positives: Excellent lateral agility, slide and ability to pull, trap and seal. Very quick, can bend knees, sink hips, anchor and generate power. Ideal frame for the NFL left tackle position properly proportioned with long arms and strong hands. Can look like Walter Jones for possessions when he uses proper technique, but not full games. Smart in the classroom. Healthy and durable. Negatives: Former defensive lineman has less than three years experience playing offensive line. Has a tendency to resort to bad habits, most recently in the second half against Maryland in the Military Bowl, including getting too high, waist bending, being late off the snap and occasionally clearly missing an assignment. Too many times allowed the defensive end to get under his outside shoulder on wide rushes. Hand placement is inconsistent, but improving. |
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Id really like to know the grades on Hurt, Smith, and Polumbus the last couple games. Smith has probably been the best of the 3. Christopher Polumbus missed bad on a couple pass blocks today but he was going against Tuck most the day.
Ive noticed our inside running game has been substantially more effective the last couple games. Maybe cause its the new Oline guys? Dunno |
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[quote=Chico23231;868826]Id really like to know the grades on Hurt, Smith, and Polumbus the last couple games. Smith has probably been the best of the 3. Christopher Polumbus missed bad on a couple pass blocks today but he was going against Tuck most the day.
Ive noticed our inside running game has been substantially more effective the last couple games. Maybe cause its the new Oline guys? Dunno[/quote] I would give Smith a B+, Hurt and Polumbus a B-. |
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All starts up front, now QB and we are ok
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Not sure I am ready to cede the starting role to Lichtensteiger without serious competition come training camp. Both Hurt and Polumbus have played well at guard in his absence. I would make him earn back the starting spot...
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Christopher Polumbus, funny. I say with the development of Hurt, Smith, and aquisition of proven Polumbus, there's no need to draft-overhaul the OL. This effectively could afford the Skins to make a move up the draft board to select a much needed QB. I'm all for winning the remainder of games and worrying about draft position when the time comes.
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I'd still be looking at QB, CB, OT in the draft and consider signing OG grubbs. they played better for sure, but that wasn't the super awesome version of the giants pass rush and we still couldn't run for ish.
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This is the way that good teams build depth. Drafting players, developing them, getting them experience. While we could probably use one more starter along the o-line, the whole notion of overhauling the line is vastly overstated.
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[quote=Hog1;868816]If those guys pan out in whole or at least in part, it should help to create some [B]quality depth[/B] by those displaced.....very encouraging[/quote]
Depth. A wonderful consequence of building through the draft. |
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2012 Smith LT, Williams RT.
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Shanahan has always been great at developing o-lines; looks like we're starting to see his players come together.
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Wasn't it just one sack yesterday? And that came off of Young missing a block.
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[quote=sportscurmudgeon;868886]Not sure I am ready to cede the starting role to Lichtensteiger without serious competition come training camp. Both Hurt and Polumbus have played well at guard in his absence. I would make him earn back the starting spot...[/quote]Polumbus was pretty dreadful yesterday. He's also Tyler Polumbus so that shouldn't come as a surprise. And Hurt hasn't played well at all this season, but at least because he's a rookie, you can excuse that on general inexperience.
I also thought Willie Smith was more down than up yesterday, but at the end of the day, the overall protection on Grossman was good. Just the one blown assignment that was off the left side with JPP where the backs didn't get over in time and Niles Paul and Willie Smith had that miscommunication on the slide. Blown protections were a big problem in the Zorn days and even going back to the end of Gibbs 2.0. Under Kyle, they've been pretty minimal. Which has exposed bigger flaws throughout the passing game, but this is a digression. |
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[quote=skinsguy;868959]Wasn't it just one sack yesterday? And that came off of Young missing a block.[/quote]Young's primarily at fault, but because we were in a slide right with Niles Paul on the edge of the line, and Niles didn't chip and left Young in a bad spot. Just a breakdown by inexperienced players. And JPP crushing Grossman unblocked.
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one win and all of a sudden they're pro bowlers... eh, adn no way willie smith is displacing a healthy trent williams. not from anything i've seen.
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[quote=That Guy;868980][B]one win and all of a sudden they're pro bowlers...[/B] eh, adn no way willie smith is displacing a healthy trent williams. not from anything i've seen.[/quote]
Nope, but they're definitely playing much better than I think we all expected. At the very least our depth looks good, and that's always a positive. And who knows, maybe at least one of these young guys will be ready to step in and start next year. Jammal Brown seems very replaceable. |
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Have to love the way this unit has held together the last 2 weeks w/its best player out. Some good signs for sure, but I still think interior OL early (rnds 2-3) + RT in later rounds would be draft picks well spent.
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[quote=That Guy;868980]one win and all of a sudden they're pro bowlers... eh, adn no way willie smith is displacing a healthy trent williams. not from anything i've seen.[/quote]
Smith went against Andre Carter last week, he had a rough start at first giving up a sack but after that he controlled him. Yesterday he faced Pierre-Paul who has 12.5 sacks and is currently the Giants best pass rusher and controlled his ass. I agree 2 games is not enough to make an assessment, but I have a very good feeling about Smith and his intangibles. The coach praised the play of rookie left tackle Willie Smith, who went up against Giants’ lineman Jason Pierre-Paul. The coach said there were obvious mistakes and growing pains, but said he’s encouraged by Smith’s development. Read this: [B]A two-year starter at left tackle, Smith is a remarkable athlete with a lot of upside. He earned All-Conference USA honors each of the past two seasons, and might have a higher ceiling than any tackle prospect in the 2011 NFL Draft. At this point in his development, Smith is too raw and inconsistent to project as a rookie starter in the NFL. Some offensive line coach is likely to be convinced he can coach Smith to block like Walter Jones every play, not just in spurts, and his draft status will reflect that potential of a probably Pro Bowler in two to three years. [/B] |
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Huge challenge this week for Willie Smith going against Jared Allen who has 17.5 sacks. My prediction is he holds his own and makes believers that he's our RT of the future to replace Brown.
[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/vikings-defensive-player-to-watch-de-jared-allen/2011/12/21/gIQA2PJYAP_blog.html#pagebreak]Vikings defensive player to watch: DE Jared Allen - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url] |
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The Redskins have a positive nucleus on the offensive line for the future. I'm impressed with Maurice Hurt. For s seventh round draft choice, he's played well and made the most of his opportunity to play. Chester has been a mainstay and has quietly played well all season long. I'm really not that big on Polumbus or Locklear. Jamaal Brown is okay, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Redskins upgraded. Willie Smith played well against Jason Pierre-Paul last week, but Jared Allen is a different monster all together this week. The reason I feel Smith will do a great job against Allen is because he did so well against Pierre-Paul, something Trent Williams didn't do against Pierre-Paul in the opener on 9-11.
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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/patchwork-offensive-line-comes-through/2011/12/27/gIQAJnDgLP_blog.html#pagebreak]Patchwork offensive line comes through - The Insider - The Washington Post[/url]
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