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BIGREDSKINFAN63 01-25-2005 01:28 PM

Cowher out in Pittsburg?
 
[b]i heard on fox sports radio this am,bill cowher maybe fired by the steelers,as early as this week.according to the pittsburg post gazette,he and rooney got into it big time after sunday's game.if true,anybody think grimm has a chance at being the next steelers coach?[/b]

Redskins_P 01-25-2005 01:43 PM

No way. I can't believe that for one second...

SmootSmack 01-25-2005 01:45 PM

I thought Cowher had just signed an extension earlier this year...but if he does get fired I'd think Grimm has to be choice number one, or maybe Ken Whisenhunt

And I wonder if the Niners could fire Nolan and hire Cowher...wouldn't they love to

MTK 01-25-2005 01:51 PM

The Steelers would be insane to can Cowher

Riggo44 01-25-2005 02:24 PM

There is no way this will happen! Who would the Steelers get that would be better? Grim?? I don't think so. Cowher would have to quite not to be in Pittsburgh next year.

d151b 01-25-2005 02:24 PM

they NEED to fire whoever was calling the offensive plays against the Patriots. My wife who watches maybe 4 hours of football a year watched a couple of offensive series by the Steelers, and even she was predicting their plays. Just shameful !!!

TheMalcolmConnection 01-25-2005 02:25 PM

Not only that... he would have to be the only coach to get fired after a 15-1 season EVER. They'd be crazy.

FRPLG 01-25-2005 02:32 PM

[QUOTE=BIGREDSKINFAN63][b]i heard on fox sports radio this am,bill cowher maybe fired by the steelers,as early as this week.according to the pittsburg post gazette,he and rooney got into it big time after sunday's game.if true,anybody think grimm has a chance at being the next steelers coach?[/b][/QUOTE]
You sure you weren't smoking something this morning??? :Smoker:

I cannot possibly see this happening. Even the Dan wouldn't fire a guy after a 15-1 season and when he has been the coach for like 12 years. No way...

TheMalcolmConnection 01-25-2005 02:38 PM

You sure it was radio...?? There's no other explanation because that would be flat-out crazy. Not only that, I'm sure that everyone would love to know how Cowher handles a second season after being 15-1.

Gmanc711 01-25-2005 02:40 PM

If he gets canned in Pittsburgh there is a very serious problem with sports today.

TheMalcolmConnection 01-25-2005 02:42 PM

Agreed. NO ONE would be safe.

SmootSmack 01-25-2005 03:11 PM

Well I looked around for this story on the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette and this is the closest I could [URL=http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/05024/447283.stm]find[/URL]

[I]Steelers fans voice their opinions after Pittsburgh's 41-27 loss to the New England Patriots in the AFC Championship game last night at Heinz Field.[/I]

[Quote=Chuck Alpern]OK, Mr. Rooney, unless you like winning only regular season games or having a never-to-be-broken record of losing 80 percent of your conference championship games at home, Bill Cowher must go![/Quote]

[Quote=Phyllis Knoll]Let's move on, get a new coach and use these awesome players to their fullest advantage.[/Quote]

[Quote=Ed Cole]I appreciate your loyalty to Bill Cowher. Loyalty is one major component that is missing from most business relationships it this era.

However, How much longer must we deal with Coach Cowher's inability to win the big game? This man is 1-4 in AFC championships and 0-1 in the Super Bowl. All of these losses have come when Coach Cowher has arguably had the most talented team on the NFL at the time of each loss.

You own the team, and if you didn't terminate Cowher after his 6-10 season last year, or after his other three losses at home in the AFC championship game, I know you will not terminate him after this embarrassment.

Although you won't make the change, It's time for a change.[/Quote]

TheMalcolmConnection 01-25-2005 03:12 PM

That's the most disgusting thing I've ever read! Wow.

SkinsRock 01-25-2005 03:22 PM

Of course people are still going to be pissed off only one or two days after the loss. Give it a week or two and see if they still feel the same. A lot of teams would be pretty happy getting to the conference championship game 5 times in 12 years, even if it meant losing most of them.
Not to mention that they did have a rookie QB this year. Want to disrupt his progress? Switch coaching staffs and systems on him. We Skins fans know a little about that sort of thing, don't we?!? ;)

There is absolutely NO WAY you fire a coach after a 16-2 season.

TheMalcolmConnection 01-25-2005 03:31 PM

We most definitely do. Shit, I'd be crapping my pants if we even made the PLAYOFFS this year. That way you elitist Pittsburgh fans.

skinsguy 01-25-2005 03:48 PM

If Pittsburgh fired Bill Cowher after a 15 - 1 season it would be the worst move in NFL history! So what that they didn't make it to the SB? Ben is a rookie....he's only going to get better!

If Gibbs hadn't came back to the Redskins and it was true about Cowher I would say we'd take him in a heartbeat! But I am more than happy with Gibbs back.

SmootSmack 01-25-2005 03:52 PM

I mean if Steve Spurrier was still available I could totally understand canning Cowher for ye olde ball coach... :joke:

sorry Daseal. I just had to

TheMalcolmConnection 01-25-2005 04:01 PM

My only problem is that it seems like so many Steelers fans have come out of the woodwork around here as of late. I think they are the ones calling for a change. Even though the fair-weather fans are always prominent whenever a team is winning.

I am proud to say I sport my hat/shirt/jersey whether we are 1-15 or 15-1.

offiss 01-25-2005 04:05 PM

Why would this be such a surprise Jimmy Johnson was fired after 2 super bowl victories, regardless of performance you have to have a working relationship with your boss and if Rooney and Cower don't get along then why not? Although I think their crazy if they do, Cower for the first time this year lost a game that he had enough talent to possibly win, but he ran into one of the great team's of all time while sporting a rookie QB, Cower will be back now that he finally has a QB, but if they do fire him it would take about 2 second's for him to take over the entire football operation's somewhere in the NFL.

MTK 01-25-2005 04:06 PM

He's not going to be fired, period.

Gmanc711 01-25-2005 04:33 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ed Cole
I appreciate your loyalty to Bill Cowher. Loyalty is one major component that is missing from most business relationships it this era.

"However, How much longer must we deal with Coach Cowher's inability to win the big game? This man is 1-4 in AFC championships and 0-1 in the Super Bowl. All of these losses have come when Coach Cowher has arguably had the most talented team on the NFL at the time of each loss.

You own the team, and if you didn't terminate Cowher after his 6-10 season last year, or after his other three losses at home in the AFC championship game, I know you will not terminate him after this embarrassment.

Although you won't make the change, It's time for a change. " -Ed Cole

I think guys are being a little hard on Cowher. When you break it down, they were not the better team in many of the games they played in.

Starting with the 1995 Superbowl vs Dallas. Lets face it, Dallas was a dynasty, they won the Superbowl 3/4 years. They were much better than Pittsburgh was.

1994 AFC Title Game- Now this is the one I agree w/ Steeler fan on. Looking back, there is no way in hell the Chargers should have run into Pittsburgh and beat them.

1995- They won.

1997 AFC Title Game - They lost against the Bronocs by three. The Broncos won the SUperbowl, so they were obviously a pretty freaking good team.

2001 AFC Title Game- Lost to the Patriots 24-17. 2004 AFC Title Game Lost to Patriots 41-27. The Patriots were and are still the best team this league has seen in well over a decade. There is no shame in losing to those guys, they are freaking awsome. Its not Cowhers fault, and the fact that that guy thinks the Steelers were more talented than any of the teams they lost too, with the exception of the Chargers is a joke.

EEich 01-25-2005 06:25 PM

I had just read a story the week before the game... it said that Rooney was hoping that Cowher would stay for the rest of his career. Can't imagine that one poorly coached game would change that.

Daseal 01-25-2005 08:23 PM

I like Cowher as a coach, not sure I'd want to be on his team after a loss, but he's a great coach!

I must agree that their playcalling was well... bad. I guess Joe Gibbs gave them some hints before the game.

CRT3 01-25-2005 09:29 PM

People in Pittsburg don't buy not going for on 4th down inside the 4. Kicking a field goal still made it 2 scores to go. And they would have had to make a 2 point conversion. He said he would do it again which is probally the issue with most fans and the owner. I would not be suprised to see it happen though. Grimm would then get the job. Mind you the guy calling the plays was a former Gibbs guy (TE) Wisenhut,

jhold4th 01-25-2005 10:34 PM

Did Snyder buy the Steerlers???? Then I believe it.

offiss 01-25-2005 10:37 PM

I didn't have a big prob with the field goal because I didn't believe they could score a td from the 3, the problem I had was not pounding the ball 3 straight times inside the 4 yard line, they had a supierior O-line and 2 powerful back's and they throw an alley oop on 2nd down and basically threw that ball up for grab's that was the play that cost them you have to do better than that.

TheMalcolmConnection 01-25-2005 10:45 PM

Yeah, you put the ball in the hands of your proven veterans when the game is on the line.

Daseal 01-26-2005 08:21 AM

Bettis/Staley up the middle were getting stuffed pretty well, I thought a pass was a good idea. I think I would have run it on 4th down. I think when you're that close you should go for it more often than not, especially with a strong D. Make em drive 97 yards back the other way!

wolfeskins 01-26-2005 05:50 PM

he needs to be fired , he just had the best chance he'll ever have in pitt. they won't be nearly as good next year. we all saw the real ben rothlisberger on sun. he was just an overachieving qb during the regular season. they won't have plaxico next year. maybe not the bus. they'll lose players on d ( they always do ). bill cowher has a history of making bad decisions ( kordell stewart ). he has over stayed his welcome in pitt. he's kinda like dennis green, can't win the big ones. steelers record next year 8-8 :Flush:

SKINSnCANES 01-26-2005 10:39 PM

cowher doesnt get fired, but coaches do get fired for not being able to win in the playoffs even if they great in the regular season everyyear.

you think andy reid would have been fired if the eagles lost?

SmootSmack 01-26-2005 10:42 PM

[QUOTE=SKINSnCANES]you think andy reid would have been fired if the eagles lost?[/QUOTE]

I think it would have definitely been talked about. Or it would have been something like Andy Reid can't be GM and Coach, something's gotta give. Even though they had no TO in the playoffs and the previous three years they didn't have a fully healthy McNabb


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