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12:01AM March 2, 2005

***NOTE: At this point Pierce is resigned

Okay guys,

Its 12:01am March 2,2005......what do you think should be the Skins top priority coming right out the gates?

I think our biggest need is on the O-Line so would immediately snag a top-flight guard. Then I'd give Martz a call and offer up a 4th rounder for Turley.

I'd love for the skins draft for the o-line first, but I have an even simpler request of them. Draft people. Please. Draft at least 6 players. No more of this free agent bullshit please, I'm sick of it. Turley would do great on any other team and other teams would/will get him at good value, but we'd trade a second round pick, overpay him, and he'd blow out his ACL two games into the season. Can we please draft deep for once?

redskin one is in the air right now

[QUOTE=tallestskinsfanever]***NOTE: At this point Pierce is resigned

Okay guys,

Its 12:01am March 2,2005......what do you think should be the Skins top priority coming right out the gates?

I think our biggest need is on the O-Line so would immediately snag a top-flight guard. Then I'd give Martz a call and offer up a 4th rounder for Turley.[/QUOTE]

Welcome to the board....so how tall are you?

[QUOTE=Balmerskinsfan]I'd love for the skins draft for the o-line first, but I have an even simpler request of them. Draft people. Please. Draft at least 6 players. No more of this free agent bullshit please, I'm sick of it. Turley would do great on any other team and other teams would/will get him at good value, but we'd trade a second round pick, overpay him, and he'd blow out his ACL two games into the season. Can we please draft deep for once?[/QUOTE]

I agree with the drafting 100% but Turley is done. He might even have to retire this year because of his back. If we even look at him it would be a disaster.

What about the 2 rookie OL they drafted last year any word on how they progessed in practice throughout the season. I can't think of their names but one of the 2 started a game when Randy Thomas was out and then he got hurt too. I remember reading somewhere that Bugel said they were making good progress. Anyone else heard anything??

I'm pretty sure Kyle Turely is a right tackle anyway.

Turley is a bad seed. he has caused trouble at every stop. ANd as Duff just pointed out he's a tackle anyway.

I'd like to seem em lay low until the draft. Maybe have a look at a DE or two, but just kick back and draft good players.

I wouldn't touch Turley until he gets back on the field and proves he's 100% again.

He had a pretty serious back injury.

i would like to draft a few guards. no FA guards, let buges teach techniques to them raw instead of a guy who has been infected with techniques from another nfl coach

Trade for Turley, why? Our o-line is set with the exception of the center position. Thats what we really need. Granted i'm assuming we bring Samuels back. We need to draft a pass rusher. I certainly agree though that we need a solid draft. Were gonna have to make some cuts next year and need some cheap labor.

Has anyone heard of any top lineman in this year's draft. The problem is there might not be anyone better than who we drafted last year. Any offensive lineman we could get in free agency?...................

After OL, I think we need to go DE .............WR to replace Gardner.............

There probably arent any OL worthy of the 9th pick, especially at guard. We can definitely find a pretty decent center in the third round.

The only way we could probably address T or G early in the draft would be by trading down from number 9 and picking up a 2nd rounder in the process. That would probably leave us drafting anywhere from 11 to 17. At that point in the first, we could justify taking Alex Barron from Florida State or Jammal Brown from Oklahoma, who are basically the consensus 2 best tackles in the draft. In the second round, we might have a chance at any of the top guards, who are Elton Brown from UVA, David Baas from Michigan (might convert to C), and Marcus Johnson from Ole Miss. The tackles who might be available and worth a 2nd rounder include Logan Mankins from Fresno St. (might convert to G), Adam Terry from Syracuse, and Khalif Barnes from Washington.

With the current state of our line, though, and assuming that Samuels is still around, I think our best course is to take either Mike Williams or Braylon Edwards if they are still available at 9. Mel Kiper's most recent mock has us selecting Williams. We could then address C in the third and our offense would be upgraded a great deal. Now if neither of those WRs is there, we are probably best off trading down, picking up a second rounder, and selecting the best available DE in the first. We could then take Baas in the 2nd and convert him to C, where I think he would dominate. In the 3rd, we could address WR, as there will be a couple of possible sneaky steals.

That's just my opinion, though, and I wonder what anyone else thinks about those scenarios?

if smoot goes which is looking like a sure thing. I think we go after rolle. then get a free agent d-end. then draft linemen with our next three picks.

Shout out to Yellow31!

[QUOTE=Yellow31]What about the 2 rookie OL they drafted last year any word on how they progessed in practice throughout the season. I can't think of their names but one of the 2 started a game when Randy Thomas was out and then he got hurt too. I remember reading somewhere that Bugel said they were making good progress. Anyone else heard anything??[/QUOTE]

Throughout the year, I thought the QB was yelling: Yellow30!! But I like the handle!

The following is Post-Draft info on Molinaro and Wilson.

Prospect Profiles

Mark Wilson
Position: Offensive Tackle
College: California
Height: 6-6
Weight: 314
Hometown: McArthur, Calif.
Analysis | Agility | High School | Personal
OVERVIEW
The anchor of the Golden Bears' offensive line, having started every game (48) during his career, breaking the school record of 46 starts by Todd Steussie (1990-93) … A product of hard work in the team's weight room, adding over 60 pounds of muscle and bulk to his frame since arriving on campus as a freshman … A Freshman All-American, he started at right tackle during his first two years before shifting to the left side as a junior … Has long arms and good athletic ability, which translates into being a top pass protector … The standout high school basketball player has very good agility for a man his size … Spent the summer as a garlic harvester in 2000.
ANALYSIS
Positives: Rangy athlete with a wide frame that can add at least another 15 pounds of bulk with no loss of quickness … Emerging team leader with a very aggressive nature … Flashes explosion on contact, striking with a very strong hand punch … Can redirect to movement and works his feet properly to wall off and sustain … When he stays low in his pads, he fires out quickly on traps and pulls, where he is very effective at approaching his target with force … Has made steady improvement working in the second level, as he now shows no hesitation breaking down the play and will land consistently thanks to taking proper blocking angles on the defender … Bends his knees and sets quickly in pass protection … Shows good hip snap when making contact working in-line.
Negatives: Needs to continue applying himself like he did in 2003 (in the past, he would not compete well in practice and the coaches were constantly on him in regards to his class work – did enough in school to barely remain eligible) … A little stiff in his stance, which causes him to take a poor kick step at times … Needs to stay low in his pads, for when he gets high in his stance, he will over-extend and lose balance … Has a strong hand punch, but will revert to grabbing outside the frame in order to control the defender … Has good foot speed, but gets a bit straight-legged, causing him to short stride and get turned out of position … Has better natural strength than that in the weight room (will do what is expected) … Does not have enough brute strength to handle the rigors of left tackle at the pro level (better when working on the right side, where he can feed off the guard and tight end).
AGILITY TESTS
5.43 in the 40-yard dash … 360-pound bench press … Bench presses 225 pounds 24 times … 258-pound power clean … 28½-inch vertical jump … 4.52 20-yard shuttle … 7.54 three-cone drill … 33 1/8-inch arm length … 10 1/8-inch hands.
HIGH SCHOOL
Attended Fall River (McArthur, Calif.) High, playing football for coach Steve Hubauer … Prep Star All-America selection, rating as the No. 10 offensive line prospect in the West … Ended his senior year with 16 receptions for 480 yards and two touchdowns at tight end … Helped the team rebound from a 1-8 season as a junior to a 10-1 mark and the Evergreen League co-championship as a senior … An excellent basketball player who helped his team to a No. 3 finish in the state (Division V) as a junior and was a first-team all-state selection as a senior.
PERSONAL
American Studies major … Spent the summer as a garlic harvester in 2000 … Son of Jack and Terese Hayes … Born Nov. 11, 1980 in San Jose, Calif. … Resides in McArthur, Calif.
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Prospect Profiles

Jim Molinaro
Position: Offensive Tackle/Guard
College: Notre Dame
Height: 6-6
Weight: 309
Hometown: Bethlehem, Pa.
Analysis | Agility | High School | Personal
OVERVIEW
The former defensive tackle will be counted upon to man the demanding left tackle position as a senior … Moved to the offensive side of the ball as a sophomore, earning several starts towards the end of the 2002 campaign … Versatile blocker with experience at both tackle positions.
ANALYSIS
Positives: Has a thick, but firm midsection and hips … Displays good all-around muscle structure and has the frame that can add about 20 pounds with no lose in speed … Has wide, big shoulders and long arms … Shows good short-area quickness … Light on his feet, keeping a wide leg base to gain position … Makes good body adjustments on the move and is an effective pass protector who can sink his hips and drive defenders … Glides upfield adequately and has the ability to get the angle on the defender and seal the corner … Has the hip swerve to recover without losing his balance … Very active with his hands, going after defenders with aggression … Good with his kick slide, adjusting properly in the short area to prevent the outside penetration … Could shift inside to guard due to his ability to pull and lead around the outside as well as trap when redirecting.
Negatives: His quickness off the snap can be more effective (needs to play at a lower pad level as he tends to get a bit upright, preventing him from delivering explosion when coming up on the rise) … Has good leg strength as a drive blocker, but will overextend and lunge to make reach blocks when working in space … Better working on the outside, as he gets a little cross-legged when trying to make the inside cutoff … Can deliver a strong hand jolt when he keeps his arms in proper position, but needs to keep his hands inside the defender's chest to prevent penetration (awkward use of hands causes him to slip off blocks).
AGILITY TESTS
Timed at 5.01 in the 40-yard dash, 2.95 in the 20-yard dash, 1.88 in the 10-yard dash and 4.62 in the 20-yard shuttle … 7.62 three-cone drill time … 385-pound bench press … Bench presses 225 pounds 25 times … 500-pound squat … 32¾-inch arm length … 10 1/8-inch hands … Left-handed.
HIGH SCHOOL
Attended Bethlehem (Pa.) High, competing in football for head coach Bob Stein … USA Today honorable mention All-America pick as a senior, recording 47 tackles (18 solos) with 1½ sacks, eight deflected passes and four batted passes in 1998 to help the team to a 7-4 mark … The three-year starter earned four letters in football as a two-way tackle, picking up first-team Associated Press big school all-state honors as both a junior and senior … One of five finalists for the Pennsylvania Lineman of the Year award as he recorded 46 tackles (17 solos), 2½ sacks, four stops for losses, 15 quarterback pressures and a pass deflection as a junior (named East Penn Conference outstanding offensive lineman that year) … Helped the team to the conference title as a freshman, competing as a tight end … Team captain as a senior, who was also a two-time all-conference and all-city selection … Named to 1998 all-area teams by both the Bethlehem Morning Call and Easton Express-Times … Chosen for McDonald's All-Star Classic … Attended Notre Dame summer football camp.
PERSONAL
Economics, Sociology and Computer Applications major, enrolled in the Mendoza College of Business … Oldest of two children of Denise and James Molinaro, Sr. … Born James Anthony Molinaro, Jr., on April 27, 1981 in Hatfield, Pa. … Resides in Bethlehem, Pa.
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I'm pretty at ease with everything right now. Whoever isn't re-signed, good riddence. And the outlook of the draft is good. Our greatest asset is our coaching staff. :oink:

[QUOTE=smootsmack]Welcome to the board....so how tall are you?[/QUOTE]

6ft6!!

[QUOTE=tallestskinsfanever]6ft6!![/QUOTE]

no offense man but there's gotta be a Skins fan taller than that! If he comes along you might have to give up your handle! LOL j/k

My #1 priority this offseason via FA, is center. That is the only position on the feild where I feel like we cant win with who we have there right now. If we had to go into the games with the same WR's, Same DL, I still feel we can win. However, Ramyer just got blasted last year, so I really hope we go Center through free agency. I wouldnt mind if we get one via the draft, but to have an impact next year, they'd have to come from FA.