2012 NFL Draft Day 3
 

Up early today and thought I would start off our day 3 thread. We have six picks today and it will be interesting to see what we find in these later rounds.

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what time does it start today?... at work until 1500. i'll be refreshing this thread
every 5 min for updates :)

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12:00 The skins have pick 7 & 14 in round 4.

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Since we took a project at guard yesterday that is at least 2 years away from helping the team at all. What do you say Shanny to getting us a player here in the 4th round that can contribute next season. I didn't say start I said contribute. 3rd RB? OT to compete?

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[quote=CapitalDefense;912814]Since we took a project at guard yesterday that is at least 2 years away from helping the team at all. What do you say Shanny to getting us a player here in the 4th round that can contribute next season. I didn't say start I said contribute. 3rd RB? OT to compete?[/quote]

RB, OT, CB at this point. That was a pretty bad reach last night.

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I like Brandon Boykin CB from UGA. He could be our nickel CB right away and return kicks. He's a playmaker that would contribute immediately.

How is drafting the guy they wanted (who may not have been there in the fourth round according to pro football weekly's last mock draft - who had him going to baltimore in the 3rd) a reach?



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[QUOTE=steveherrin;912818]How is drafting the guy they wanted (who may not have been there in the fourth round according to pro football weekly's last mock draft - who had him going to baltimore in the 3rd) a reach?[/QUOTE]

Because someone said he might fall to the 5th or 6th. And b/c someone said it, it must be true.

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There are still some very good players available. I'd like to see Lamar Miller and Joe Adams in the B&G. Those two are big time playmakers. Also, Miller is a KR and Adams is a PR.

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Thomas
Polk or Rainey
Criner
Burfict

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FWIW i read somewhere that shanny and the skins thought leribeus would go in the 3rd or 4th round.

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[url=http://draftcountdown.com/Results/Best-Day-3.php]Best Available for Day 3, NFL Draft - DraftCountdown.com[/url]

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[quote=diehardskin2982;912822]Thomas
Polk or Rainey
Criner
Burfict[/quote]

I would be happy with any of those. Except Burfict. To many red flags on that guy. Plus he seems like a guy who is going to get himself kicked out of the league at some point.

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[quote=theJBexperience;912817]I like Brandon Boykin CB from UGA. He could be our nickel CB right away and return kicks. He's a playmaker that would contribute immediately.[/quote]

Yep I could see him contribute too. There are still some players who could contribute out there.

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Joe Adams, B Boykin, Nate Potter, B. Massie, and L. Miller are all good options... Joe Adams (if available) at 102 makes the most sense for us; played on the South squad at the Senior Bowl (which was coached by Shanahan) and had 7 rec, 114 yds in that game; and the possibility (not likely) that Boykin fell to us at 109 would be awesome.

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How about a Nut and a Loon.

[url=http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/WR/Marvin-McNutt.php]Marvin McNutt, Iowa, NFL Draft - DraftCountdown.com[/url]

[url=http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/OG/Joe-Looney.php]Joe Looney, Wake Forest, NFL Draft - DraftCountdown.com[/url]

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[quote=Alvin Walton;912829]How about a Nut and a Loon.

[url=http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/WR/Marvin-McNutt.php]Marvin McNutt, Iowa, NFL Draft - DraftCountdown.com[/url]

[url=http://www.draftcountdown.com/ScoutingReports/OG/Joe-Looney.php]Joe Looney, Wake Forest, NFL Draft - DraftCountdown.com[/url][/quote]

We have plenty of nuts and loons on this board already. :cheeky-sm

I like both of those players but I think I'd be most satisfied with Massie and Miller in Round 4.

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Good to see the Warpath's talent evaluators out in full force this morning.

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[quote=NC_Skins;912846]Good to see the Warpath's talent evaluators out in full force this morning.[/quote]

Would you prefer to talk about the weather here on [B][I]THE WARPATH[/I][/B]?

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[quote=vallin21;912828]Joe Adams, B Boykin, Nate Potter, B. Massie, and L. Miller are all good options... Joe Adams (if available) at 102 makes the most sense for us; played on the South squad at the Senior Bowl (which was coached by Shanahan) and had 7 rec, 114 yds in that game; and the possibility (not likely) that Boykin fell to us at 109 would be awesome.[/quote]

Would love to see Potter too! Great experience in the zone scheme and paved the way for Doug Martin at Boise. If we get Boykin today, the LeRibeus pick is water under the bridge.

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Hope we get some more recognizable names today. If we don't know a guy, he's probably a reach, right?

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I see a lot of people pushing for a receiver....no. focus on need, o line, safety, corner. WR can wait, RB can wait. With our 4th rounders I will be happy with boykins and nate potter or massie.

[QUOTE=Mattyk;912851]Hope we get some more recognizable names today. If we don't know a guy, he's probably a reach, right?[/QUOTE]

Exactly! Hopefully we draft Harry Potter everyone knows that name so he must be awesome!

[QUOTE=Mattyk;912851]Hope we get some more recognizable names today. If we don't know a guy, he's probably a reach, right?[/QUOTE]

Exactly. The way some people were talking about LeRibeous (I'm sure I spelled that wrong) you'd think we need prettier offensive lineman.

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At first it seemed like the most pressing need on the offensive line was right tackle. Instead, a left guard was chosen yesterday. Mike Shanahan said that the team is fine at RT and he was pleased with the depth that Tyler Polumbus provided and he Shanahan gave Jammal Brown at vote of confidence by saying that he feels good about where he is for the first time in the time Brown has been in Washington.

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[quote=Mattyk;912851]Hope we get some more recognizable names today. If we don't know a guy, he's probably a reach, right?[/quote]

Completely agree; CB, OL, are priorities regardless of the player's name.

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[quote=Chico23231;912816]RB, OT, CB at this point. That was a pretty bad reach last night.[/quote]

It's only a reach if you don't like him or he doesn't fit your system. Obviously they scouted him, evaluated him, and Shanny coached him so that was enough to convince them they needed to get him at that point in the third.

I'm ok with it and will reserve judgement until I actually see him in action in the NFL.

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[quote=Mattyk;912851]Hope we get some more recognizable names today. If we don't know a guy, he's probably a reach, right?[/quote]

Exactly. Well, one area of his game I really liked (which didnt show up on tape of course) was his name, Josh McRibeus. It will slot nicely behind Lichtensteiger on the depth chart. I was thinking about adding McRibeus to the "prove me wrong thread", but I thought that might be too soon in his 15 hour Redskin career.


We all want the samething and I hope he works out. Just a head-scratcher with alot of talent still on the board last night.

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[quote=Mattyk;912851]Hope we get some more recognizable names today. If we don't know a guy, he's probably a reach, right?[/quote]

Ha. To be honest I have been so busy this year with my family, school, and of course a full time job I hardly know any names in this draft.

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Just a thought: It's really amazing how some people on here wanted the FO to draft an O-lineman, and when we do, the same people who wanted an O-lineman are already bashing the kid when he hasn't even stepped on the field, because "there were better G's available", "He's not as strong or fast as player X", or "he's not the O-lineman I wanted." Leribeus is an underrated, versatile, and an explosive interior lineman ATPOA; he can play LG,C, RG and adds much needed depth, and versatility on the interior O-line. Some scouts gave him a 3rd-4th round grade, others a later round grade, but we also recieved an EXTRA 7th round pick by trading back two spots, and drafted a solid OL. How can the Leribeus pick be a "bad pick" when we needed to fortify the interior of our O-line, and he hasn't yet stepped on the field?

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I think one interesting thing that could come out of today will be to see how many players we draft that we coached in the senior bowl.

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The fact that we coached him at the senior bowl says all I need to know. Not only did they do their homework on him, but they've already had a chance to work with him. Give the kid a chance before writing him off. Everyone blasted the Jenkins pick last year, and by the end of the summer everyone was ready to buy his jersey. Time will tell how this works out.

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[quote=vallin21;912862]Just a thought: It's really amazing how some people on here wanted the FO to draft an O-lineman, and when we do, the same people who wanted an O-lineman are already bashing the kid when he hasn't even stepped on the field, because "there were better G's available", "He's not as strong or fast as player X", or "he's not the O-lineman I wanted." Leribeus is an underrated, versatile, and an explosive interior lineman ATPOA; he can play LG,C, RG and adds much needed depth, and versatility on the interior O-line. Some scouts gave him a 3rd-4th round grade, others a later round grade, but we also recieved an EXTRA 7th round pick by trading back two spots, and drafted a solid OL. How can the Leribeus pick be a "bad pick" when we needed to fortify the interior of our O-line, and he hasn't yet stepped on the field?[/quote]

I cosign this.

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[quote=Big C;912823]FWIW i read somewhere that shanny and the skins thought leribeus would go in the 3rd or 4th round.[/quote]

One thing you learn watching the draft over the years, especially in the late rounds, a LOT of teams "reach" for guys that are rated low on draft nick websites. Sometimes its a case of coaches and GM's thinking they're smarter then everyone else (see Gene Smiths 3rd round pick for Jax last night) and other times its because these scouts have more information and more time studying these players then public sources of information and understand how they fit into their system.

In regards to our new Guard hopefully its the latter.

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Anyway how nice of a pick would Kellen Moore be to develop as a backup to RG3?

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[quote=Mattyk;912864]The fact that we coached him at the senior bowl says all I need to know. Not only did they do their homework on him, but they've already had a chance to work with him. Give the kid a chance before writing him off. Everyone blasted the Jenkins pick last year, and by the end of the summer everyone was ready to buy his jersey. Time will tell how this works out.[/quote]

Completely agree with your take. They have already worked with the guy so they have a much better understanding of who he is as a player than all of us after watching some game film. I trust the FO and their moves. If we didn't how would you really feel about giving a kings ransom for RG III?

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[quote=vallin21;912862]Just a thought: It's really amazing how some people on here wanted the FO to draft an O-lineman, and when we do, the same people who wanted an O-lineman are already bashing the kid when he hasn't even stepped on the field, because "there were better G's available", "He's not as strong or fast as player X", or "he's not the O-lineman I wanted." Leribeus is an underrated, versatile, and an explosive interior lineman ATPOA; he can play LG,C, RG and adds much needed depth, and versatility on the interior O-line. Some scouts gave him a 3rd-4th round grade, others a later round grade, but we also recieved an EXTRA 7th round pick by trading back two spots, and drafted a solid OL. How can the Leribeus pick be a "bad pick" when we needed to fortify the interior of our O-line, and he hasn't yet stepped on the field?[/quote]

I completely agree. The Redskins needed to draft an interior lineman. Lichtensteiger is coming from off of a very, very serious knee injury and hasn't fully recovered, and the Redskins have to have insurance at the left guard position going into the season. Leribeus also played in the zone blocking scheme in the East-West Shrine game and said that he liked the scheme so he's an excellent fit for the what is required of our interior lineman. And as you said, picking up an additional pick by trading back two spots was an intelligent move also.

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I keep hearing some say, "WR is not a need" which is objectively correct, but subjectively speaking slot WR [B]IS[/B] a need; what happens if Moss gets injured, released, or unexpectedly declines during the season? Who becomes our Y? Austin, Robinson, Armstrong, Banks? As previuosly mentioned, it will be interesting to see how many South Squad Senior Bowl players we'll select today. Zebrie Sanders, Joe Adams, Brandon Boykin, Phillip Blake, Ben Jones, Chris Rainey, and others all were coached by the coaching staff; and remember early in FA, we tried to sign Eddie Royal in addition to Morgan and Garcon. Eddie Royal is a slot WR/PR, and so is Joe Adams.

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Really love that my opinion is welcome here. Why do you think so many Alabama players went early? Because they played well for a winning program. Sure, no names can become stars, but a guy that by all accounts played well for one season in a terrible program doesn't excite me with our third pick. I'm sorry. Yes, there were projections for him going in the third or fourth round, but there were equally as many for him going totally undrafted. From all the draft grades I've read this morning, the consensus was LiRibeus was a reach. That's what upset me. I thought there were starting calibre guys on the board when we picked. I'm bummed we didn't go after them and chose to get a good backup so early. I guess I'm not Warpath worthy. So, I'll save my opinions for ExtremeSkins. Sorry to waste all your time.

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[quote=theJBexperience;912876]Really love that my opinion is welcome here. Why do you think so many Alabama players went early? Because they played well for a winning program. Sure, no names can become stars, but a guy that by all accounts played well for one season in a terrible program doesn't excite me with our third pick. I'm sorry. Yes, there were projections for him going in the third or fourth round, but there were equally as many for him going totally undrafted. From all the draft grades I've read this morning, the consensus was LiRibeus was a reach. That's what upset me. I thought there were starting calibre guys on the board when we picked. I'm bummed we didn't go after them and chose to get a good backup so early. I guess I'm not Warpath worthy. So, I'll save my opinions for ExtremeSkins. Sorry to waste all your time.[/quote]

You're welcome to say anything you want, just like anyone else.

Sorry that other opinions aren't welcome to you I guess.

Have fun at ES.