John Beck cut...signs with Texans
 

Yep link soon

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[url=http://mobile.sbnation.com/nfl/2012/4/28/2984361/john-beck-released-washington-redskins-nfl-draft]Redskins Reportedly Cut John Beck Before NFL Draft Is Over - SBNation.com[/url]

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Kirk Cousins is better than John Beck and probably Grossman. People were stunned, but it was a good pick.

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It makes me feel concerned about the shanhans tho, we traded for this guy I be a potential starter and he doesn't like 3 games

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No big surprise.

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We also gave up nearly nothing for him. When you get a player like that you're taking a gamble. But we lost very little for a chance at a QB that they liked. They missed. It happens. Time to move on.

Somebod should tell the morons at ESPN, who were overreacting to the Cousins pick, about this.

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Oh happy day

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Out with the OLD in with the NEW!

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Yawn. Tell me if we cut a player anyone cares about

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The Redskins releasing John Beck is hardly a surprise. When Kirk Cousins was drafted, you knew either Beck or Jonathan Crompton became expendable. Beck is 0-7 as a starter after all.

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I'm not sure what in the world the Shanahan's ever saw in Beck.

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Thank heavens

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Kinda strange and funny we couldnt wait a second longer after drafting Cousins. Gone

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Damnit! I was really looking forward to when he turned the corner and became an All-Pro!

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Flush the fashion!
We got new ponys in the stable.
:cool-smil

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purging all of the poop out of our system

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About as bad as JaMarcus. Good Riddance.

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Obviously we were robbed in the Doug Dutch trade. :)

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Time to move on.

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John Beck could have worked out. Beck had two failings as a Redskins quarterback. He rushed his reads just about every time he dropped back to pass and he had absolutely no poise whatsoever. That is why he didn't succeed in Washington.

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[quote=Lotus;913527]Obviously we were robbed in the Doug Dutch trade. :)[/quote]

Douglas Allen Dutch (born February 15, 1986) is a free agent American football cornerback.

cammmm

WHAT!?!?!

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;913548]John Beck could have worked out. Beck had two failings as a Redskins quarterback. He rushed his reads just about every time he dropped back to pass and he had absolutely no poise whatsoever. That is why he didn't succeed in Washington.[/quote]

He had all of Big Bens bad habits and almost none of his good ones on the field mind you.

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and i had just ordered his nike jersey too

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;913548][B]John Beck could have worked out.[/B] Beck had two failings as a Redskins quarterback. He rushed his reads just about every time he dropped back to pass and he had absolutely no poise whatsoever. That is why he didn't succeed in Washington.[/quote]

So you're saying he could be an NFL starter?

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;913548]John Beck could have worked out. Beck had two failings as a Redskins quarterback. He rushed his reads just about every time he dropped back to pass and he had absolutely no poise whatsoever. That is why he didn't succeed in Washington.[/quote]

You forgot that he couldn't/wouldn't throw the ball more than 10 yards downfield.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;913571]So you're saying he could be an NFL starter?[/quote]

Without a doubt Beck could have been a decent starter given the right circumstances. However, I think he was mentally destroyed long before he got to DC.

Like most rookie QBs, they are often thrown into very bad situations and expected to succeed. Too often it doesn't end well for either parties. You can't put a rookie QB with no offensive line, no running game, shitty WRs and expect something good to come of it. It's futile and a major reason why teams that draft QBs so high often see them fail. Take notes on how Jacksonville is throwing Gabbert out in the fire with a crappy OL and shitty WRs. It's not going to end well for him.

I believe Beck was shell shocked back in Miami, and considering how he was so gun shy and so quick to dump it off, it spoke volumes of his confidence in himself. That Buffalo game was a train wreck to watch. The guy folded under the pressure, held the ball too long and just simply was overwhelmed mentally. I'm almost positive David Carr was another QB just like Beck. Had the talent and skill, but thrown into a bad situation and never recovered mentally. As we all know, once a QB's confidence is shot, it's pretty much game, set and match.

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[quote=NC_Skins;913622][B]Without a doubt Beck could have been a decent starter given the right circumstances. However, I think he was mentally destroyed long before he got to DC.[/B]

Like most rookie QBs, they are often thrown into very bad situations and expected to succeed. Too often it doesn't end well for either parties. You can't put a rookie QB with no offensive line, no running game, shitty WRs and expect something good to come of it. It's futile and a major reason why teams that draft QBs so high often see them fail. Take notes on how Jacksonville is throwing Gabbert out in the fire with a crappy OL and shitty WRs. It's not going to end well for him.

I believe Beck was shell shocked back in Miami, and considering how he was so gun shy and so quick to dump it off, it spoke volumes of his confidence in himself. That Buffalo game was a train wreck to watch. The guy folded under the pressure, held the ball too long and just simply was overwhelmed mentally. I'm almost positive David Carr was another QB just like Beck. Had the talent and skill, but thrown into a bad situation and never recovered mentally. As we all know, once a QB's confidence is shot, it's pretty much game, set and match.[/quote]

Highly doubtful. He's simply not an NFL QB. He's not a pin point passer, no feel in the pocket, can't anticipate when guys are coming open. The NFL game is too fast for him. This is why I simply have little faith in the Shanahan's when it comes to talent evaluation. They fed us this clown and even I knew he couldn't play. When some young guys get thrown in the fire you can at least see something. I saw nothing when Beck played in Miami. To me, Blaine Gabbert looks like John Beck. Everything is just too fast for him.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;913571]So you're saying he could be an NFL starter?[/quote]

Yes, if he didn't play scared. As I said, if Beck showed more poise he could have succeeded. He rushed his reads only because he was scared of the rush. If a NFL QB worries about the rush and rushes his reads and as a result lacks poise, then he won't be able to succeed at the NFL level.

Beck had little skill. The problem is more than poise.

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[quote=hooskins;913684]Beck had little skill. The problem is more than poise.[/quote]

Every QB in the NFL has some degree of skill. If Beck didn't have skill, he wouldn't have completed 60.6 % of his passes last season. In the games against the Panthers, Bills, and 49ers, it obviously showed more than anything that he lacked poise when he dropped back to throw. He was worried about making mistakes so much that it effected his overall game.

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I love how you guys are debating the merits of John Beck actually being a halfway decent NFL qb. All I know is he didn't become one, and the odds of him becoming one are just about nil. In fact, I'd be suprised if he made it onto a 53 man roster.

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Good riddance. He was never truly a viable option at QB. Plus he gave the most annoying interviews I've ever heard. He always seemed phony to me. It was like he tried to fit as many cliche's as possible into a two minute Q&A.

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I'm thinking back to the level of excitement (that I admittedly contributed to) doing the preseason last year, especially the Indy game about Beck.. Lol. Damn, we got fooled. He was exactly what Miami saw when they cut him.. Gun shy, quick to panic, game was simply too big for him. I don't doubt he's confident in his physical abilities but his arm and ultimately his head were simply not NFL caliber.

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If Mike Shanahan really liked John Beck as much as he said he did back in 2007, why didn't he draft him? Beck went 40th overall to the Dolphins. The Broncos team that Shanahan coached had picks in the 1st and second round which they traded up with Jacksonville in order to get a bust named Jarvis Moss. Still, Shanahan said that he had Beck as the best QB coming out of the draft that year, but he only admits to that after the Redskins acquired Beck in a trade and during the NFL lockout last summer after he stakes his reputation on this bum.

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We're still talking about this guy?

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;913748]If Mike Shanahan really liked John Beck as much as he said he did back in 2007, why didn't he draft him? Beck went 40th overall to the Dolphins. The Broncos team that Shanahan coached had picks in the 1st and second round which they traded up with Jacksonville in order to get a bust named Jarvis Moss. Still, Shanahan said that he had Beck as the best QB coming out of the draft that year, but he only admits to that after the Redskins acquired Beck in a trade and during the NFL lockout last summer after he stakes his reputation on this bum.[/quote]

You don't have hindsight when you're in the war room. They liked Moss as a prospect and thought he was going to be something special from their scouting. That's why they took that risk on him. And just because Beck was a a top propsect out of the QBs doesn't mean that players at other positions had a higher grade than him. Plus, with Cutler, there was no pressing need to spend a pick that early on Beck.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;913768]You don't have hindsight when you're in the war room. They liked Moss as a prospect and thought he was going to be something special from their scouting. That's why they took that risk on him. And just because Beck was a a top propsect out of the QBs doesn't mean that players at other positions had a higher grade than him. Plus, with Cutler, there was no pressing need to spend a pick that early on Beck.[/quote]

All of that doesn't matter. The fact of the matter is Beck looked good until the ball was snapped. It was that way for him in Miami and in Washington. 0-7 as a starter is a very poor ré·su·mé to have. How many quarterbacks who are starters in the NFL or even back ups who started can say they have lost every game that they've started? I can think of the worst quarterbacks still on an NFL roster who have won at least one game. But John Beck can't make that claim. Hopefully for Beck he's not done yet. But I'm wondering who will bring him in for a tryout?

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;913773][B]All of that doesn't matter.[/B] The fact of the matter is Beck looked good until the ball was snapped. It was that way for him in Miami and in Washington. 0-7 as a starter is a very poor ré·su·mé to have. How many quarterbacks who are starters in the NFL or even back ups who started can say they have lost every game that they've started? I can think of the worst quarterbacks still on an NFL roster who have won at least one game. But John Beck can't make that claim. Hopefully for Beck he's not done yet. But I'm wondering who will bring him in for a tryout?[/quote]You do a poor job of justifying this assertion, since your support points are about a completely different topic. Tell me how Cutler's presence make it not matter, how not having a crystal ball to avoid duds does not matter, and that other players might be ranked higher on the board(i.e Beck was the top prospect, but all of the prospects were ranked at position #90 or below).

Also, way to put yourself on a pedestal. I suppose that you can tell me who exactly from this year's draft is going to be the studs and who will be the duds with you have hindsight and no one else does.

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[quote=SirClintonPortis;913776]You do a poor job of justifying this assertion, since your support points are about a completely different topic. Tell me how Cutler's presence make it not matter, how not having a crystal ball to avoid duds does not matter, and that other players might be ranked higher on the board(i.e Beck was the top prospect, but all of the prospects were ranked at position #90 or below).

Also, way to put yourself on a pedestal. I suppose that you can tell me who exactly from this year's draft is going to be the studs and who will be the duds with you have hindsight and no one else does.[/quote]

Cutler was already on Denver's team. But Shanahan supposedly liked Beck when he already had a quarterback. Still, if Beck was available, he should have taken him if he thought that highly of him. Jarvis Moss was a risky pick for Denver, but they selected him anyway and got burned for it. Shanahan's evaluation of talent is what eventually got him fired in Denver. This is the same guy who wasted a 3rd round pick on Maurice Clarette. I don't consider a QB taken in the 2nd round a top prospect. Top prospects are those picks taken near the top of any NFL draft or who are projected to be there near the top of a draft. I consider Eli Manning, Big Ben, and Phillip Rivers top prospects.

As I said, it doesn't truly matter because it's past tense and Cutler isn't even in Denver anymore and neither is Shanahan. What difference does it make in 2012? Does that justify enough assertion for you? And lastly, I don't agree with your claim that I place myself on some pedestal. How is that? As far as this year's draft, we can't truly grade the Redskins or the other 31 teams yet because we don't know which draft selections will pan out.