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When the B&G Play, we have a W or L. With the Draft we see grades. Although the Draft grade does not equate to how many draftees stick to help the team, it is interesting.

[url=http://nfl.si.com/2012/04/29/2012-nfl-draft-grades/]2012 NFL Draft Grades – Audibles[/url]

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--2012-nfc-draft-grades--defensive-minded-eagles--packers-earn-high-marks.html;_ylt=AgbP_HSZl1IGrfkYzNAQnNE5nYcB]2012 NFC draft grades: Defensive-minded Eagles, Packers earn high marks - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nfl--2012-afc-draft-grades--risky-dolphins--o-line-needy-steelers-earn-high-marks.html;_ylt=AlzLRGYuV9gSJxcR0EXNMH05nYcB]2012 AFC draft grades: Risky Dolphins, O-line needy Steelers earn high marks - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

[url=http://www.rr.com/sports/topic/article/rr/2020/68141230/Grading_the_NFL_Draft]Grading the NFL Draft - Road Runner[/url]

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Nothing like grading the draft a couple days after it happens.

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I cannot think of anything more useless than a draft grade.

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It's along time till Football starts up for real, this gives us something to talk about IMO.

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[QUOTE=FRPLG;913976]I cannot think of anything more useless than a draft grade.[/QUOTE]



5th string FB?, Stephen Hawking's football? Dirtbag59?

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A+. Haven't lost a single game with these ballers we drafted over the weekend.

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I thought [URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7823750/mel-kiper-gives-grades-every-nfl-team-draft"]Mel Kiper's assessment[/URL] of our draft was a fair one:

Needs: B+; Value: C; Overall: C
Summary: If you feel like the grade is a tough one, remember I have to factor in the extraordinary value given up to acquire Robert Griffin III. I've looked, and it's as much as we've ever seen dealt for a top-5 pick. I think RG3 will be a very good player, and I think he can be pretty good right out of the gate, but he's this draft for Washington, and he came at the cost of (likely) three future starters. The pick of another quarterback, Kirk Cousins, obviously created some curiosity. I can see a plan: Washington develops an asset it can deal in a year to regain some draft picks. Is Cousins worth a second-round pick in a year? He could be. It was smart to get a couple of guards, because the offensive line is a weakness outside of Trent Williams. The Redskins got their guy in RG3, they just gave up an extraordinary amount to do so. Only fair to factor that in.

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[quote=Ruhskins;914001]I thought [URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2012/story/_/id/7823750/mel-kiper-gives-grades-every-nfl-team-draft"]Mel Kiper's assessment[/URL] of our draft was a fair one:

Needs: B+; Value: C; Overall: C
Summary: If you feel like the grade is a tough one, remember I have to factor in the extraordinary value given up to acquire Robert Griffin III. I've looked, and it's as much as we've ever seen dealt for a top-5 pick. I think RG3 will be a very good player, and I think he can be pretty good right out of the gate, but he's this draft for Washington, and he came at the cost of (likely) three future starters. The pick of another quarterback, Kirk Cousins, obviously created some curiosity. I can see a plan: Washington develops an asset it can deal in a year to regain some draft picks. Is Cousins worth a second-round pick in a year? He could be. It was smart to get a couple of guards, because the offensive line is a weakness outside of Trent Williams. The Redskins got their guy in RG3, they just gave up an extraordinary amount to do so. Only fair to factor that in.[/quote]
He makes a bunch of subjective points. Some may be right or wrong but probably somewhere in between. Then he assigns a quantification to the subjective evaluation. It's both "fair" and totally "idiotic" at the same time because there isn't one single quantifiable thing about it. I'm not knocking Mel any more than any of these other "grades".

Grading a draft is like grading poetry.

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They all love the skins last year, mixed on them this year.

They got 9 players all at positions of need, and we didn't just need a good QB, we needed a good backup QB. Why aren't people all over Denver for Osweiler? Manning only has a 3 year window or whatever, its smart drafting to make sure your backed up at the most important position.

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Not going to pull a premature, meaningless letter out of a hat without seeing any of these guys play for us, but I like this year's draft. Past RGIII, it's not as exciting as last year's haul, but we addressed every need with quality depth, if not future starters.

We hit QB obviously, as well as backup QB (one more year with Rex on bench). The trend in the NFL of developing a backup and trading away for a haul has been paying off handsomely for teams lately. Lets jump in on that action, or hang onto him as a great backup.

O-line was hit at all three positions, G, T and Center (Gettis likely).

We added depth at CB and S.

Since Hightower has not signed yet, we added another RB to go with Helu and Royster. If Hightower comes back (hopefully), we can bulk this guy up to be a backup FB.

LB, specifically London's backup and heir...another Texas Longhorn LB. They've been churning out quality DEs and LBs for a while now, as we know very well.

We took a very limited number of picks and not only increased the number of picks through trades, but we addressed every single "urgent" positional need.

This draft can only be graded as a big success in terms of filling needs. We'll find out how good these guys are later but from a strategic standpoint...we did the best we possible could have.

The Cousins pick SHOCKED and confused me at first but then I remembered we had Rex as RGIII's backup and the more I think about the pick, the more I like it.

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[quote=Evilgrin;914029]They all love the skins last year, mixed on them this year.

They got 9 players all at positions of need, and we didn't just need a good QB, we needed a good backup QB. [B]Why aren't people all over Denver for Osweiler?[/B] Manning only has a 3 year window or whatever, its smart drafting to make sure your backed up at the most important position.[/quote]

Because it's some much easier to keep BAD MOUTHING the SKINS. It's a NEW DAY & the media needs to realize this.

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Love the emphasis on the OL
Would have liked to see them use the 4th pick to address a current and future needs as opposed to just a future need
Like Keenan Robinson as developmental ILB
Love Bernsteins measurables

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[quote=Monkeydad;914033]Not going to pull a premature, meaningless letter out of a hat without seeing any of these guys play for us, but I like this year's draft. Past RGIII, it's not as exciting as last year's haul, but we addressed every need with quality depth, if not future starters.

We hit QB obviously, as well as backup QB (one more year with Rex on bench). The trend in the NFL of developing a backup and trading away for a haul has been paying off handsomely for teams lately. Lets jump in on that action, or hang onto him as a great backup.

O-line was hit at all three positions, G, T and Center (Gettis likely).

We added depth at CB and S.

Since Hightower has not signed yet, we added another RB to go with Helu and Royster. If Hightower comes back (hopefully), we can bulk this guy up to be a backup FB.

LB, specifically London's backup and heir...another Texas Longhorn LB. They've been churning out quality DEs and LBs for a while now, as we know very well.

[B]We took a very limited number of picks and not only increased the number of picks through trades, but we addressed every single "urgent" positional need.
[/B]
This draft can only be graded as a big success in terms of filling needs. We'll find out how good these guys are later but from a strategic standpoint...we did the best we possible could have.

The Cousins pick SHOCKED and confused me at first but then I remembered we had Rex as RGIII's backup and the more I think about the pick, the more I like it.[/quote]
Really good synopsis over all and I agree with mostly all of what you said. I take slight issue with what you noted as 'a very limited number of picks', we had a full draft even with the trade since we entered into the draft with 7 picks. We're so conditioned to have limited drafts and poor development of picks I think we suffer from PCSD (Post Cerrato Stress Disorder) and feel like our picks have to be hits right away. Hopefully our draft picks from '11 (Thompson and Gomes) make a contribution this year to mitigate some of our issues and maybe even Robinson bringing something to the WR position so our weaknesses become strengths from within.

This draft was more of the same, future planning with impact from a couple of rookies.

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RGIII is an A+.

Well, we then decided to try to address QB depth, LB depth and OLine depth with our mid picks. Secondary remains a concern; it's mostly prayer picks for the secondary this year.

Hopefully, in the near future, Rex Grossman will be gone when Cousins learns his stuff and our shitty red zone running game will be better with the ruffians we drafted.

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I've said it before but..

C+

We had an A, until we picked an unknown guard who was considered a reach in the 3rd, and drafted a backup QB in the fourth. I know Kirk Cousins was so good and was a 3 time captain and 4 year starter blah blah blah. But like people have said we don't exactly have the best pick situation for the next 2 years. And a LOT can happen in two years. I know we can "Matt Cassel" Cousins and get picks for him, but realistically we need those picks IMO sooner, rather than later. And I don't see those picks coming next year. Even the year after I don't see it. Sure we have a young backup to Griffin incase he gets hurt. But remember this skins fans, Rex Grossman knows this system better than Griffin and Cousins combined, so if RG3 goes down, it won't be Cousins in, it will be Sexy Rexy. We could do a situation like what Gibbs (or was it Zorn?) did a few years ago, where he said If QB1 goes down in the game then QB2 goes in; but if QB1 is still out for next week then QB3 will go in if QB3 has learned all his stuff and is prepared prior to the next weeks game. I feel like Gibbs did this with Brunell Campbell and Collins but I'm not 100% sure.

I'm like Mayock, I see both sides to having and not having Cousins, but after all is said and done, it wasn't worth it. (Hell Kellen moore could have been had as an undrafted FA)

Another thing I was going to bring up about our draft is the fact that we drafted about 4 people I've never heard of in my life. Rarely is that a good thing. I thought it was a joke when one of the fans said we drafted Josh LeRibeus. Sure he's a guard and at SMU so he didn't get much attention, but you can not tell me that Bobby Massie is worse than him. Then on top of that is Jordan Bernstein. I've seen 3 Iowa games the past 2 years, never heard his name. And he's at a position where your name is called. That was a wasted pick. I will be SHOCKED if he makes the final roster. Then theres the SMU CB (what is it with SMU kids anyway?) Richard Crawford I believe is his name. Why the hell did we draft him when Dennard was still available? I know Dennard was arrested, but its not like he's going to jail for years, and his upside is much better than crawfords. And Keenan Robinson. Everywhere I look and read it says that he is strictly a 4-3 WLB. I went to look at his highlights, and I feel like we could have drafted another ILB, because Keenan, who is great in passing situations, is not good in run situations. I watched his games against OU, Baylor and A&M. The dude will do several different things. He'll either A) throw his arm out last minute and attempt to trip up the RB, which rarely worked B) dip his head down and hope that the RB got tackled, which again rarely worked (whiffing at the tackle) C) decide that this is the time he wants to go full speed for a hit, and shoot up the wrong hole Or just flat out miss. He needs to bulk up because he looks like Gumby trying to go through traffic, and he gets pushed around by guards fairly easily. I really don't think that being mentored by fletcher will make his tackling problems go away. If you don't want to hit a college RB head on, why would you just want to hit an NFL RB head on? He was a name though, which is typically a good thing when drafting players, but I don't see this guy sticking for a year 3 here.
However with the bad drafting comes the solid UDFA signings which we made up for the last half of our draft. As always I will be looking back on this draft and looking at what names I wrote down for draft day I wanted the skins to pick, and see how they far two years from now to see if I was right or not (ex: Desean jackson instead of Devin Thomas)

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[quote=FRPLG;914004]He makes a bunch of subjective points. Some may be right or wrong but probably somewhere in between. Then he assigns a quantification to the subjective evaluation. It's both "fair" and totally "idiotic" at the same time because there isn't one single quantifiable thing about it. I'm not knocking Mel any more than any of these other "grades".

[B]Grading a draft is like grading poetry[/B].[/quote]

That's excellent!

Especially coming from arguably the premier draft analyst, his grade is sort of like saying "This is how well teams listened to me." But regardless it does come down to RGIII for us. If he's an elite QB three years from now this draft gets an A+

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Yeah this is kind of silly. But I swear, Ozzie Newsome has got to be one of the best in the business. Trades out of the first round to get an extra pick and still got Upshaw. Upshaw should walk right in and start opposite of Suggs.

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I'm happy with the Redskins draft. The front office touched on just about every need that needed filling. Besides the selections of RG3 and Cousins, I like the added offensive linemen.

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I was going to give this class a B/B +...but I'm lowering to it an F - - now that I know we drafted people CultBrennan59 had never even heard of

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I was leaning A-.....but with rumored Bentley shopping, I may have to re-evaluate...sad.

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LOL Zing!Hog 1
I give the skins a [B]A[/B]. One thing I respect about the Shanahans is they make football moves regardless of what others may think.

The Skins now have quality depth at all positions. I didn't want them to go chasing after a RT because I wanted them to further develop Polumbus and Smith.
I also wanted all the players that we obtained last year to grow and progress in the playbook on both sides of the ball. RGIII, Bentley or not is a "create-a-player" for this offense. His natural strengths will only be enhanced in the Shanny offense. Cousins is an excellent insurance plan. If we are able to pick up Phillip Thomas as an UDFA, I will look back at this draft with fond memories.

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Our draft should be graded F. We could have drafted a punter in the third but we let him slip away to Jacksonville.

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[quote=diehardskin2982;914276]LOL Zing!Hog 1
I give the skins a [B]A[/B]. One thing I respect about the Shanahans is they make football moves regardless of what others may think.

The Skins now have quality depth at all positions. I didn't want them to go chasing after a RT because I wanted them to further develop Polumbus and Smith.
I also wanted all the players that we obtained last year to grow and progress in the playbook on both sides of the ball. [B]RGIII, Bentley or not is a "create-a-player" for this offense.[/B] His natural strengths will only be enhanced in the Shanny offense. Cousins is an excellent insurance plan. If we are able to pick up Phillip Thomas as an UDFA, I will look back at this draft with fond memories.[/quote]
You know, you make a good point. The player I am confident he will become will directly change the face of the Offense and make the existing players much better simply because of his ability to use them. AND he will by extension make the Defense significantly better with less minutes on the field, playing with a lead....etc

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[quote=SmootSmack;914245]I was going to give this class a B/B +...but I'm lowering to it an F - - now that I know we drafted people CultBrennan59 had never even heard of[/quote]

I actually feel good about the Skins drafting players I never heard of before the draft. To me, that says they've done their homework. If they only drafted the players I wanted them to draft, who knows what kind of people those players might be or how well they would fit with what the Skins want to do.

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[quote=Lotus;914277]Our draft should be graded F. We could have drafted a punter in the third but we let him slip away to Jacksonville.[/quote]

bah dum chhhhhhhhhhh.

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I liked all of the Redskins draft selections. They got significant assistance for the offensive line and the starting and back up quarterback positions were upgraded as well. I like the middle linebacker addition to go along with the running back selection. And the defensive back draftees were sold choices as well.

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I'll play along since we've got a long ways till the start of the new season. There are a few drafts I want to cover with some of them being puzzling. Not going to give a grade as much as I want to comment on some picks.


[B][SIZE="4"]Seahawks:[/SIZE][/B]

-I find it funny the night (and day after) of the draft, you had a bunch of pundits and reporters criticize the Hawks on the drafting of Bruce Irvin.

[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828c1cdc/article/jets-cursed-out-seahawks-for-drafting-bruce-irvin?module=News_CP]NFL.com news: Jets cursed out Seahawks for drafting Bruce Irvin[/url]

[quote]After they took Irvin 15th overall, the Seahawks received a call from New York Jets headquarters. The Jets "good-naturedly" cursed at the Seahawks for taking the guy they planned to draft one pick later, according Len Pasquarelli of the SportsXchange. Irvin also was believed to be on the short list of candidates to be drafted in Chicago, Green Bay and San Francisco. One general manager called Irvin the "hottest player in the draft."[/quote]


[B][SIZE="3"]Browns:[/SIZE][/B]

-I had no problem with their move up one spot to secure Trent Richardson, but their pick of Weedon at the 22nd spot was a bit mind boggling. Not sure why they didn't just wait and pick him up with their 2nd round pick. Lions, Steelers, Patriots, Bucs, Vikings, 49ers, Texans, Bengals, Packers, Rams, or Colts didn't need a QB and would have not drafted a QB with those picks between the 22nd in the first to the #37 in the 2nd round. Hell, nobody even remotely near those teams were in a need of a QB because they either had quality starting QBs or they drafted one this year (or prior).

Didn't get the move and thought it was puzzling.



[B][SIZE="3"]Redskins:[/SIZE][/B]

-Happy we addressed our QB position and filled in some starting/depth issues at the OL. I think this was a huge problem for us last year when a few of our guys went down early on. I love the fact we have another QB they think highly of and will be grooming him to be our future backup. Hopefully he'll pan out and we can flip that pick into a future 1st or 2nd rounder.

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[quote=Hog1;914249]I was leaning A-.....but with rumored Bentley shopping, I may have to re-evaluate...sad.[/quote]

Exactly. This news about his fiancee buying a Bentley is deeply upsetting. Pretty soon he's going to be hanging out at coke-and-sex parties, and starting fights at clubs over some guy looking at his girl. It's clear he's too immature for the NFL, and that's why I'm grading this draft an F. We definitely should've taken Tannehill 2nd overall.

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[quote=SmootSmack;914245]I was going to give this class a B/B +...but I'm lowering to it an F - - now that I know we drafted people CultBrennan59 had never even heard of[/quote]

You've been full of snark since draft day haven't you? lol

I'd grade draft day a B. Because we drafted people. Isn't that half the battle? It's kind of like the SATs, if you can spell your name right, you're already winning.

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Well, since I am the resident draft hermit here, can someone fill me in on why people are showing heartache over not picking Massie?
This Massie guy had worse Combine results for the 20-yard shuttle and 3-cone drill than Tom Compton, and it's not even close ....

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Long term , I think this draft will get an A , RG3 a top 5 qb , a starting OL and maybe a LB who can start . As far as this year , not sure we see much from any of our picks except for RG3 , so at first it might not look so good from a 5-11 team . Long term is what matters IMO = A .

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All depends on RG3. If he becomes a franchise guy A just cause of the value that can have on a franchise for 10-15 years. I don't really see any other of the draft picks becoming starters, just for depth and when their positions get injured. Only time will tell.

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I think at least one OL from this draft will be starting fairly soon this year. Kory L. may be slow in coming back giving one of these young pups a chance to step up.

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[url=http://www.mockingthedraft.com/2012/5/4/2998157/2013-nfl-mock-draft-version-1-3k]3k's 2013 NFL Mock Draft 1.0 - Mocking The Draft[/url]

Didn't know where to put this didn't feel like starting a NEW thread, can't beleive they think that St. Lou will have a better record than us.

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I give this draft a solid [B]B+.[/B]

RGlll is an [B]A.[/B] Enough said.
LeRibeus is a [B]B-. [/B]Not the reach many think as at least 2 other teams reportedly had a 3rd round grade on him. He fits the ZBS, and has versatility.
Cousins is a[B] B[/B]. Team needs a solid backup for the future, and Kirk was best player on the board.
Robinson is a [B]B-.[/B] Solid pick filling a need.
Gettis is a [B]B+.[/B] Perfect zone fit, versatile, picked in the appropriate spot.
Morris is a [B]C[/B]. Probably a reach, but fits the system.
Compton is an[B] A[/B]. Stong value pick, fills a need, and has versatility.
Crawford is a[B] B-.[/B] Need position, has good upside, it's the 7th rd.
Bernstine is also a[B] B-.[/B] Another need position io the 7th with upside.

I don't see a bad pick in the bunch, perhaps a few reaches that fill needs, but they nailed down the all important Qb spot and strengthened O-line depth. All players picked also have very good intangibles, good to great character traits, and seem to fit perfectly with the systems being run. I think it will be Mike Shanahan's best draft ever.

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Mel Kiper re-graded the 2012 draft [URL="http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2013/story/_/id/8855506/mel-kiper-regrading-2012-nfl-draft?refresh=true"]here[/URL]
it's part of ESPN's In area so the link may be useless, but here is the relevant NFC East info:
[QUOTE]NFC East

[U]New York Giants[/U]

Round Pick Position Player College
(1) 32 RB David Wilson Virginia Tech
(2) 63 WR Rueben Randle LSU
(3) 94 CB Jayron Hosley Virginia Tech
(4) 127 TE Adrien Robinson Cincinnati
(4) 131 T Brandon Mosley Auburn
(6) 201 T Matt McCants UAB
(7) 239 DT Markus Kuhn North Carolina State

Post-draft grade: C+

Summary: In my grades after the draft I wrote, "I had running back as the top need for the Giants, and they got one with their first pick. David Wilson should be productive, but I think they really would have preferred Doug Martin. I might have gone with an O-lineman there, but the Giants have capably kept things patched up for a couple years, and will have to continue to do so, because they didn't get a tackle until the fourth round." Well, I think it's still fair to say they might have preferred Martin, who had a huge season for the Bucs. And while the O-line was a question, in typical fashion, the coaching staff kept it patched together. So, was Wilson the best pick? Despite too much time spent in the Tom Coughlin doghouse, I think he'll prove to be a good one if healthy. He's electrifying in the return game, and given the reps in the run game, I think he'll make his mark. Rueben Randle we knew was a high-upside project in Round 2, and that's what he looked like as a rookie. The real find could be third-rounder Jayron Hosley, who led college football in INTs as a sophomore, struggled as a junior and saw his stock fall. Well, he came on down the stretch and could be a starter in 2013. There's a ton of projection left in this draft, but we may look back in a couple years and say it looks a lot better than it does today.
New grade: C+

[U]Philadelphia Eagles[/U]

Round Pick Position Player College
(1) 12 DT Fletcher Cox Mississippi State
(2) 46 LB Mychal Kendricks California
(2) 59 DE Vinny Curry Marshall
(3) 88 QB Nick Foles Arizona
(4) 123 CB Brandon Boykin Georgia
(5) 153 T Dennis Kelly Purdue
(6) 194 WR Marvin McNutt Iowa
(6) 200 G Brandon Washington Miami (FL)
(7) 229 RB Bryce Brown Kansas State

Post-draft grade: A

Summary: The season went off the rails, but the Eagles got a lot of value out of the rookie class and should have high hopes for a number of players heading into the future. Fletcher Cox finished the season as a terror on the defensive line and is a lock to start at defensive tackle in 2013. But he needs to show more consistency. Mychal Kendricks was an immediate starter at linebacker and a good get at No. 46. If the Eagles didn't trade for DeMeco Ryans, it would have been Kendricks as the head-and-shoulders best linebacker on the roster. This season was essentially a redshirt year for Vinny Curry, who was inactive for most of the year. I noted during the draft that I thought that Brandon Boykin was a steal at No. 123 overall because he could be an early starter, and Boykin was giving Philly the best play among any of its corners by the end of the season. Bryce Brown we know is a steal, a low-mileage pickup in Round 7 who proved he can start in this league if needed. And I haven't even mentioned Nick Foles. Hey, we don't know if Foles will be the starter under Chip Kelly, but would you rather have, say, Brandon Weeden or Brock Osweiler based on what you've seen from Foles? Even as a good backup, he proved to have decent value. The big knock on this draft is the question of whether all these rookies see this much time for a better team. That's the main reason the grade dips.
New grade: B+

[U]Dallas Cowboys[/U]

Round Pick Position Player College
(1) 6 CB Morris Claiborne LSU
(3) 81 DE Tyrone Crawford Boise State
(4) 113 LB Kyle Wilber Wake Forest
(4) 135 S Matt Johnson Eastern Washington
(5) 152 WR Danny Coale Virginia Tech
(6) 186 TE James Hanna Oklahoma
(7) 222 LB Caleb McSurdy Montana

Post-draft grade: C+

Summary: Despite getting a very good player in Morris Claiborne, this draft looks worse after a full season. You can't just say the trade up to get Claiborne at No. 6 was a brilliant move, because that's analyzing the pick in a vacuum. In terms of overall value, the Cowboys got Claiborne at the cost of a valuable second-round pick. So while the fact that Claiborne is a good one is a credit to Dallas, he also came at the cost of a pick that would likely turn into a starter. (Dallas has landed Bruce Carter, Sean Lee and Anthony Fasano in Round 2 in recent years.) And beyond Claiborne, there isn't much here. Tyrone Crawford looks like a depth addition, and Kyle Wilber isn't a future starter. The one guy you might point to is James Hannah, who caught 8 passes and showed some upside down the stretch. But overall, the draft is about Claiborne, a very good player, but one who came at a cost. I just can't say there's anything here of significance beyond that selection.
New grade: C

[U]Washington Redskins[/U]

Round Pick Position Player College
(1) 2 QB Robert Griffin III Baylor
(3) 71 G Josh LeRibeus SMU
(4) 102 QB Kirk Cousins Michigan State
(4) 119 LB Keenan Robinson Texas
(5) 141 G Adam Gettis Iowa
(6) 173 RB Alfred Morris Florida Atlantic
(6) 193 T Tom Compton South Dakota
(7) 213 CB Richard Crawford SMU
(7) 217 CB Jordan Bernstine Iowa

Post-draft grade: C+

Summary: The season Robert Griffin III put together might be seem like reason enough to push that C+ to an A. But I think Redskins fans who really understand the draft will have a more realistic view of this. In fact, I feel just as I did when the draft concluded. At that time I wrote, "If you feel like the grade is a tough one, remember I have to factor in the extraordinary value given up to acquire Robert Griffin III. I've looked, and it's as much as we've ever seen dealt for a top-5 pick. I think RG III will be a very good player, and I think he can be pretty good right out of the gate, but he's this draft for Washington, and he came at the cost of [likely] three future starters." RG III was better than very good -- he was exceptional. But Washington gave up an extraordinary amount of draft value to land him. When you factor in his injury to finish the season, and the fact that Mike Shanahan will need to take a hard look at how his young star is used as a runner, it puts a damper on the overall evaluation. Even with the value given up for RG III, the draft should still get high marks for the pick of Kirk Cousins, a player who proved his value with a big regular-season win. And Alfred Morris turned into maybe the steal of the draft, rushing for 1,613 yards and 11 TDs. There isn't much beyond that, though Keenan Robinson could develop into a starter. Overall, a very good draft, but one that will be defined by how good RG III will be when he comes back from this setback, because he came at a price that will be evident in April both this year and next.
New grade: B+

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It's too early to give a true re-grade, but I think using Griffin's cost in this one is an unfair reason to knock it. Ultimately each draft class stands alone. Basically if you knock this one, then you shouldn't knock the 2013/2014 drafts, but you know, pundits will say that our drafts were poor since we didn't have a 1st round pick- basically double dipping on the "hate". Then you add in a top QB and a top RB, plus an apparent solid backup qb and a OG that played ok at the end of the season, not sure what qualifies as an A draft then.

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Mel Kipper is seriously a waste of time. The guy has been wrong so much it is unreal. IF he was such a great talent evaluator some team would have paid him big bucks to come on board.

The guy is nothing more then a talking head. Back in the day when fans were not as educated he came off as a good source now that the average fan has so much access to evaluational of talent it obvious the guy is just pulling at straws.

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[quote=mredskins;991015]Mel Kipper is seriously a waste of time. The guy has been wrong so much it is unreal. IF he was such a great talent evaluator some team would have paid him big bucks to come on board.

The guy is nothing more then a talking head. Back in the day when fans were not as educated he came off as a good source now that the average fan has so much access to evaluational of talent it obvious the guy is just pulling at straws.[/quote]

The personnel guys around the league are often wrong as well. Picking these players is a 'best guess' type situation. I think Kiper does a pretty good job. Additioanlly, don't underestimate scheme and situation, which Kiper has really no control over. I think many players that either flopped or were mediocre, could have had considerably better careers had they come into a better scheme for their skillset or a better organization for their personality.

I don't have the time or desire to spend time looking at film/etc of every college player. I like being able to understand the quick pros/cons about players, especially 2nd, 3rd, 4th round guys.

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Looking back it was a very solid draft overall.

Griffin and Morris were the home runs, obviously. A+ for both picks.

Cousins proved to be a shrewd pick, one that was blasted at the time but Shanahan got the last laugh on that one.

Crawford showed some flashes as a nickel and as a returner. Robinson was coming along before his injury. LeRibeus filled in and did a nice job at the end of the season. Wouldn't be surprised if he pushes hard for a starting job in camp. Compton could be in the mix too for the RT job.

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Not to be biased but I would give this draft no lower than an A. You get a franchise RB and QB in the same draft?!? That deserves an A right there. Add in that we got a great backup QB and OLineman. I'd give us an A+.