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Im sure someone mentioned this previously but I did look and didn't see it. If Sunny and Sam can start they're own thread then why can something that actually pertains to our future? Josh Gordon at around 6'3 and 225 and runs a 4.4 40 yard dash. He played at Baylor with our beloved RG3 and hopefully has some chemistry. We need a big receiver and he could be that guy at a discounted rate. A 4th rounder is all we would need to give up. Is it worth it? Personally, I think it would be. Thoughts?

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[quote=joeyt56;923507]Im sure someone mentioned this previously but I did look and didn't see it. If Sunny and Sam can start they're own thread then why can something that actually pertains to our future? Josh Gordon at around 6'3 and 225 and runs a 4.4 40 yard dash. He played at Baylor with our beloved RG3 and hopefully has some chemistry. We need a big receiver and he could be that guy at a discounted rate. A 4th rounder is all we would need to give up. Is it worth it? Personally, I think it would be. Thoughts?[/quote]

There are other big wide receivers who are still in college now that will be worth a 4th round selection come next April. Our wide receiving corp is set already.

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Because he played at Baylor, I would go to RG3 and just ask. If RG3 said this guy is a must have, someone who is very comfortable with, someone who could help me make the transition, Skins should put in a bid. I just dont think he is "that guy" and really dont see the value higher than say a 6th rounder.

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We've mentioned him before in the Around the offseason thread.

Rich Tandler said to not expect the skins to put in a pick for him in the supplemental draft. He said that our WR core is set and that the redskins don't want to waste a pick on a guy with drug problems.

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We already have a full stable of WRs that have unknown potential.
It doesn't make sense to me to give up another draft pick (where we're already behind the count) and for a WR that we might not even need if the unproven WRs we have pan out when they're giving there opportunities.

There are a finite number of targets and catches a receiver can have and we already have more receivers then opportunities.

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Don't see why you gotta be taking a shot at my Sam Huff thread

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I definitely wouldn't want to give up anything more than a 7th rounder. We've already got a logjam at WR and we don't need to give away any more quality picks.

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unless he'd be better than moss etc, no thanks. have too many, he got kicked off the team (not good). and there have been plenty of big fast WRs that have bounced out of the nfl without any stats to show for it.

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If he doesn't get drafted and is an UDFA only.

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[quote=Mattyk;923528]I definitely wouldn't want to give up anything more than a 7th rounder. We've already got a logjam at WR and we don't need to give away any more quality picks.[/quote]

I really like the "value" there often seems to be in the supplemental draft. And i got no problem using a pick a year early, in fact i find it preferable.

That said im with you and everyone else, considering our logjam at wr. But i dont really see a major difference in 5th round to 7th round pick potential, so a 5th would be cool w me.

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If he can catch, run routes, and beat the jam someone will give him a shot.

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[quote=SmootSmack;923527]Don't see why you gotta be taking a shot at my Sam Huff thread[/quote]
Sort of a low post count for that sort of thing.
Just sayin'.......

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IMO we are good a WR right now.

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I hear his brother Flash is a decent QB

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We do need a big target WR, but I would be more comfortable with a proven commodity who won't cost any draft picks e.g. Burress is the perfect fit.

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Do the skins have legitimate interest? Does anyone know?

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[quote=mbedner3420;923701]Do the skins have legitimate interest? Does anyone know?[/quote]

Magic 8 ball time!

"Signs point to no" lol

I wouldn't want him. He might be a bad influence on Williams and Davis and get 'em all cheefed up, lol.

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[quote=JGisLordOfTheRings;923706]Magic 8 ball time!

"Signs point to no" lol

I wouldn't want him. He might be a bad influence on Williams and Davis and get 'em all cheefed up, lol.[/quote]

Fine by me.

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Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter
Receiver needy teams that figure to be interested in Josh Gordon: Browns, Dolphins, Panthers, Colts, Eagles, Cowboys, Redskins and more.


Also according to PFT an NFC team has given this kid a 3rd round grade. Schefter also said that "as far as supplemental drafts go, this kid is a rare talent."

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I will pretty stunned if we show any interest at all. Likewise I will be pretty stunned if he doesn't go to the Dolphins...or maybe the Cowboys

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[quote=SmootSmack;923886]I will pretty stunned if we show any interest at all. Likewise I will be pretty stunned if he doesn't go to the Dolphins...or maybe the Cowboys[/quote]

Is there a reason why the Skins wouldn't be interested? Preserving draft picks?

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Not that I am a big proponent of Josh Gordon, because I'm not, but I do not see how exactly the Skins are set at WR. The way I see it is while we have quantity, there is not much quality. Moss is competing for a job, Garcon hasn't had a 1,000 yard season in his career (even with Peyton throwing to him), and while I love VA Tech Josh Morgan hasn't done much of anything in the NFL.

Somehow the consensus is that we are set. Sure we have bodies in there, but this squad reminds me of Moss, Lloyd, and Randel El. The Skins thought that they were set then as well. It would be nice if they suprise me, but right now I do not see much there.

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[quote=Angry;923892]Not that I am a big proponent of Josh Gordon, because I'm not, but I do not see how exactly the Skins are set at WR. The way I see it is while we have quantity, there is not much quality. Moss is competing for a job, Garcon hasn't had a 1,000 yard season in his career (even with Peyton throwing to him), and while I love VA Tech Josh Morgan hasn't done much of anything in the NFL.

Somehow the consensus is that we are set. [B]Sure we have bodies in there, but this squad reminds me of Moss, Lloyd, and Randel El.[/B] The Skins thought that they were set then as well. It would be nice if they suprise me, but right now I do not see much there.[/quote]

Thats what I was thinking as a worst case..

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[quote=mbedner3420;923887]Is there a reason why the Skins wouldn't be interested? Preserving draft picks?[/quote]

I don't know the specific reason.

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[quote=Angry;923892]Not that I am a big proponent of Josh Gordon, because I'm not, but I do not see how exactly the Skins are set at WR. The way I see it is while we have quantity, there is not much quality. Moss is competing for a job, Garcon hasn't had a 1,000 yard season in his career (even with Peyton throwing to him), and while I love VA Tech Josh Morgan hasn't done much of anything in the NFL.

Somehow the consensus is that we are set. Sure we have bodies in there, but this squad reminds me of Moss, Lloyd, and Randel El. The Skins thought that they were set then as well. It would be nice if they suprise me, but right now I do not see much there.[/quote]

So what do you suggest they do?....(this is where Goat chimes in with Plaxico)

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[quote=SmootSmack;923896]So what do you suggest they do?....(this is where Goat chimes in with Plaxico)[/quote]

Goat will probably advocate trading a 2nd for Randy Moss, or trading a 3rd for Ochocinco.

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][quote=SmootSmack;923896]So what do you suggest they do?....(this is where Goat chimes in with Plaxico)[/quote][/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Realistically there is nothing that they can do until next offseason. There needs to be a long term solution to the problem. Anything that they can do between now and then would be a band-aid. The WR corps needs minor surgery.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I am content with the draft and free agency this past offseason. We have needed a QB for a while and a WR for almost as long. I feel that they are addressing the need in the correct order. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]To answer your question there is nothing they can do except continue what they are doing. My only point in the previous post is that I wouldn't exactly call us set. We are as set as we can be without doing something stupid. The position still needs to be addressed just not now.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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I don't think anyone would deny that we have some question marks at WR heading into camp. But there's definitely potential there to have a pretty solid group.

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Is Gordon a better prospect than Hankerson was/is?

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[quote=Mattyk;923905]I don't think anyone would deny that we have some question marks at WR heading into camp. But there's definitely potential there to have a pretty solid group.[/quote]

The potential is there every season, but it never pans out. Best case scenario is Moss maintains his level of production, Garcon draws the double team and Morgan gets a bone every once in a while. It is a good thng that we have good TE's.

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I say why not? We passed up his center in the draft he seemed to be clamoring for, why not appease RGIII....good morale, familiar target, and the kid just looks, well good. I'm in favor.

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[quote=RGIII;923906]Is Gordon a better prospect than Hankerson was/is?[/quote]

Wasnt Gordon kick out of 2 schools, Utah and Baylor? I would say no based just on that.

Hankerson was a bad ass coming out of Miami. His senior year was impressive.

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[quote=Angry;923904]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Realistically there is nothing that they can do until next offseason. There needs to be a long term solution to the problem. Anything that they can do between now and then would be a band-aid. The WR corps needs minor surgery.[/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]I am content with the draft and free agency this past offseason. We have needed a QB for a while and a WR for almost as long. I feel that they are addressing the need in the correct order. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]To answer your question there is nothing they can do except continue what they are doing. My only point in the previous post is that I wouldn't exactly call us set. We are as set as we can be without doing something stupid. The position still needs to be addressed just not now.[/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]


Just curious, why is drafting Josh Gordon not a realistic option in your opinion?

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[quote=Chico23231;923910]Wasnt Gordon kick out of 2 schools, Utah and Baylor? I would say no based just on that.

Hankerson was a bad ass coming out of Miami. His senior year was impressive.[/quote]


All very true but i would say Gordon is probably the better "prospect" in that he has more natural ability and likely more upside.

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But a lot of baggage and not exactly a good kid.

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[quote=Chico23231;923910]Wasnt Gordon kick out of 2 schools, Utah and Baylor? I would say no based just on that.

Hankerson was a bad ass coming out of Miami. His senior year was impressive.[/quote]

I agree with the first part. We don't need troublemakers in our locker room, it's bad enough having two very talented players who have made extremely poor choices that will hang consequences over their head for the rest of their careers.

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82a6b6b7/article/josh-gordon-reportedly-wont-fall-past-third-round]Josh Gordon reportedly won't fall past third round - NFL.com[/url]
[quote]On Silva's Twitter account, he goes even further. [B]He said there's "no chance" Gordon will get past the third round and added the team is from the NFC East[/B]. Which means we are going to conduct some irresponsible guesswork.[/quote]

What do you guys think of this? The only two teams in the east I could see taking him are us (hopefully not; especially not for a 3rd rounder) and Dallas.

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I'd guess Dallas is definitely the team

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The fact we're debating this is baffling to me. This guy is not an elite prospect. He may have been a good college player somewhat and have some upside but why the hell does that mean we should use another pick on him? He really isn't a better option than most of what we already have and there are obvious risks.

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[quote=FRPLG;924032]The fact we're debating this is baffling to me. This guy is not an elite prospect. He may have been a good college player somewhat and have some upside but why the hell does that mean we should use another pick on him? [B]He really isn't a better option than most of what we already have and there are obvious risks.[/B][/quote]

Well said. Or, put differently, he isn't a better option than someone else that we can get in the third round of the regular draft in 2013 (which apparently is his price tag).