Gameplan vs Bills:Vanilla or Butter Pecan?
 

We haven't really talked about the first preseason game Thursday night against the Bills.

What thoughts are you having about the game?

Do you think the offense will unviel some of the new elements of the offense? (i.e. Pistol, Shotgun on 1st and 2nd down, zone-read, option)

Do you think they [I][B]should[/B][/I] unviel any of the new offense and why?

What do you want/expect to see?

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My thought is... Whatever this team needs the most work on. We don't need to unveil any cool plays we are all waiting to see and we just need to get in some good work.

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I'm expecting a vanilla gameplan. The goal here is not so much to win the game (though that is an added bonus) as it is getting our young guys some reps in live game situations to help their adjustment to the NFL. Only thing that matters to me in preseason is injuries.

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I wouldn't expect to see anything too crazy out of this first game. Starters will probably only play a couple of series.

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I expect to see some runs and some passes. Maybe even a qb option as well.

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Our QB may be superman but he is still a rookie.
Let him play a few sets and throw some long balls so we can find out who our recievers are.
I hope the Bills throw at us a lot so we can look at our safetys more.

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To the OP's question, I am hoping for butter pecan. Not a full exploration of the play book, of course, but some experimentation to see what works best with #10 and what does not.

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You KNOW they are going vanilla. I can already hear the cries of Skins fans around the world about the play calling.

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I would not be surprised to see RGIII play the entire first qtr. He needs the reps.

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I think I would be a bit shocked if they let him play a whole quarter. Given what happened to Jenkins last year, I'd bet they want to be very careful with players they feel will be major contributors this year.

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I think you'll see them run some plays out of pistol and possibly incorporate an option or two. The skins need to get some live game reps with these new formations and plays that figure to be part of their offense.

It'll be exciting to see either way.

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I think we'll see Vanilla. Going anything more than that is only an attempt to make the other team, who isn't using any wrinkles, look bad. At this point -- I want to see our receivers/RG3 beat single coverage. I would like to see RG3 play at least a quarter, maybe a half. Let him get a rhythm in live action. If he's getting hit, get him out.

I don't want to see more than 1-2 series of Grossman. Want a big dose of RG3 and Cousins.

I wouldn't be surprised if we only see griff throw it 10 times

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I wouldn't even play RGIII at this point with the issues along the oline. No reason to risk a freak injury because of a missed assignment etc

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[quote=The Goat;928812]I wouldn't even play RGIII at this point with the issues along the oline. No reason to risk a freak injury because of a missed assignment etc[/quote]

RGIII is playing. That much you can rest assure of. (barring any injury)

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[quote=The Goat;928812]I wouldn't even play RGIII at this point with the issues along the oline. No reason to risk a freak injury because of a missed assignment etc[/quote]

He has to be prepared no matter what's going on around him. The entire team would suffer if we hold back his progress like that. He's never seen NFL-speed gameplay, he needs to get experience prior to Week 1.



Besides, he can run. :D

He gets 1 drive 1 touchdown bam he's done

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I dunno...as unsettled as things seem up front I'd look to wait till the line gels together by third preseason game and then let RGIII play as long as he wants to get comfortable.

Running for his life in first NFL game speed experience seems like a terrible idea.

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[quote=The Goat;928831]I dunno...as unsettled as things seem up front I'd look to wait till the line gels together by third preseason game and then let RGIII play as long as he wants to get comfortable.

Running for his life in first NFL game speed experience seems like a terrible idea.[/quote]

Welcome to the NFL, kid.

If that's the reality of being the Redskins QB, he has to deal with it.

I don't think the O-line is going to be THAT bad that he has no chance. They're also going to tailor the offense to not only fit him, but protect him. I saw a lot of shotgun/pistol and screen passes at practice on Saturday. He won't be holding onto the ball long on passing plays and there will be plenty of runs called too.

Last year, Rex made it through the year and he had zero mobility and was getting hit all the time. Later in the year, especially when we beat the Giants, he had rookies and guys off the street blocking for him and Trent Williams was suspended...and didn't just make it out alive, but he led us to victory.

I'm not worried about RGIII behind this line. True, the line has holes, especially at RT, but it's not as bad as people are crying about. Williams, Montgomery, Chester are all solid. Kory Lichtensteiger will be back. Our only real worry is RT and we do have a bunch of bodies in camp there, so hopefully one proves to be at least adequate. Also, strong blockers in the backfield with Hightower and Darrel Young and at TE with Cooley, Paulson and Paul. (Fred is more of a receiver).

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RG3 needs to play. Enough said.

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RG3 needs to play at least a half to begin to adjust to the speed of the NFL game. Keep playbook vanilla, RG3 under center often, running PA, and getting basic reads down.

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I'm so sick of the word "vanilla" being used for football.

This started under the Zorn era, at least here on the WP and in the media.

It's getting as bad as the word "gravitas" in political discussions.

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Vanilla has been around forever.

Remember Snyder sending quarts of ice cream to DC Mike Nolan back in the day?

[url=http://larrybrownsports.com/football/daniel-snyder-does-not-like-vanilla-ice-cream-so-says-mike-nolan/792]Daniel Snyder Does Not Like Vanilla Ice Cream, So Says Mike Nolan | Larry Brown Sports[/url]

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Instead of "vanilla" on Thursday, why not go to the other extreme and just run all trick plays. Then, no one know how to prepare for you, because they won't see any of those plays ever again in the regular season. That could be a definition of "vanilla", which means "don't run your regular season offense"!

No seriously, run what you need to run to get RG3's feet wet and comfortable, who care what the other teams take away from it.

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I like Vanilla ice-cream, but I also like Butter Pecan. I'll just be happy to see RGIII out there in a 'skins uniform playing a few snaps.

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I could go for some mint chocolate chip

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[quote=Mattyk;928881]I could go for some mint chocolate chip[/quote]

I'll take two scoops.

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Im all about the cake batter ice cream with cherries and chocolate chips.

Let (RG3) play 2 or 3 series, let the OLine (other than TW) play an entire half, maybe even a series into the 3rd quarter. At least those that are looking the most impressive in camp, and then go from there in preparing for the next week. The more live reps the real OLine gets before putting our brand new shiny toy out there, the better.

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Rum & Raisin myself.

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i like peanut butter n chocolate.

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I want to see what they've been working on. Show it to the NFL. Who cares? Gives the defenses more to prepare for. RG3 needs to play and play a lot. I'd like to see him out there for a half. It's not like Buffao's playing their starters the entire game. I also want to see Hank out there too. He needs game reps. I watnt our o-line to give RG3 time to pass. I want to see Cousins for a quarter and a half. I already know our secondary is going to stink so not expecting much there. But I want to see a pass rush from Rak, Kerrigan but also from Marcus White and Jackson. I want to see if Chis Neild is ready to step up. But mostly I just want to see some damn FOOTBALL!!!!!!

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[quote=Mattyk;928874]Vanilla has been around forever.

Remember Snyder sending quarts of ice cream to DC Mike Nolan back in the day?

[URL="http://larrybrownsports.com/football/daniel-snyder-does-not-like-vanilla-ice-cream-so-says-mike-nolan/792"]Daniel Snyder Does Not Like Vanilla Ice Cream, So Says Mike Nolan | Larry Brown Sports[/URL][/quote]

I'm sure he looks back on it now and is pretty shocked he did crap like that. lol.

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[quote=Mattyk;928857][SIZE="7"]RG3 needs to play. Enough said.[/SIZE][/quote]

Not big enough. Fixed for you.

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Want to see quality play and good communication not really concerned about formations or gameplan etc. most important as always stay healthy!

If its gotta be vanilla at least go DQ Blizzard style and throw in some tasty bits I can enjoy.

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As long as it it ain't Rocky Road......

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I think people are crazy if they wouldn't enjoy just a nice chocolate gameplan...



mmmm chocolate.

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Haagen Daz banana split! I wanna see accurate passing from the pocket with quick reads.

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[quote=RedskinRat;928905]As long as it it ain't Rocky Road......[/quote]

True That!

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[quote=hooskins;928904]If its gotta be vanilla at least go DQ Blizzard style and throw in some tasty bits I can enjoy.[/quote]

Nice.