Skip Bayless - "White fans will root for Cousins"
 

Just wanted to give a BIG F you to Skippy. How this guy is even considered a journalist is beyond me. He should be ashamed of himself.

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""I'm going to throw it out there," Bayless continued. "You also have the black/white dynamic and the majority of Redskins fans are white and it's just human nature if you're white to root for the white guy. It just happens in sports. Just like the black community will root for the black quarterback."

Last time I checked Redskins fans were a very diverse bunch who couldn't give a $hit if the QB was green....as long as he's the best guy to help the team win.

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One of the most delusional/off base things I have ever seen an analyst say.

This is truly LOL worthy.

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Best to just ignore Skippy. He's not even worth getting upset over.

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Shouldn't have said in April, shouldn't have said again yesterday. He's right that the majority of Redskins fans are white...if this was 1970. Times have changed.

Either way, it's irrelevant. He's a huge RG3 fan and feels the Redskins should not have drafted Kirk Cousins (who he thinks is better than RG3 at the moment because he's more pro ready).

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Bayless is nothing more than an antagonizer who stirs up controversy when there's none... As mentioned, our fan base is pretty diverse (Whites, Blacks, Latinos, etc.) so it's just a ridiculous claim to make about our fanbase without having any factual evidence.

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As someone who knows Skip personally (I mean we're not best buds or anything) and has spoken to him a few times, my thoughts are he's fiercely loyal to those he feels close to, he can come across as an ass to those not in his inner circle, he's not racist in the slightest, he's very stubborn, he can provide you 19 minutes of well thought out, insightful conversation on a variety of topics (not limited to sports), then in the 20th minute gives you a "what the ****??" comment. He, and others, are victims/culprits of an unfortunate downward trend in the quality of what First Take could be (but it gets people to watch).

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F U C K Skip Bayless

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[quote=SmootSmack;932409]As someone who knows Skip personally (I mean we're not best buds or anything) and has spoken to him a few times, my thoughts are he's fiercely loyal to those he feels close to, he can come across as an ass to those not in his inner circle, he's not racist in the slightest, he's very stubborn, he can provide you 19 minutes of well thought out, insightful conversation on a variety of topics (not limited to sports), then in the 20th minute gives you a "what the ****??" comment. [B]He, and others, are victims/culprits of an unfortunate downward trend in the quality of what First Take could be (but it gets people to watch).[/B][/quote]Great points. I know you and Matty are right, best to ignore this clown.....I guess Bayless got me. I read his comments and took a few minutes to respond.

He certainly has no knowledge in evaluating QBs if he thinks Cousins is more NFL ready than RG3. He's the same guy that still thinks Tebow is "one of the best deep throwers in football" and "he'd take Tebow over Aaron Rodgers in a one game scenario."

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[quote=Mattyk;932404]Best to just ignore Skippy. He's not even worth getting upset over.[/quote]

This. By starting a thread and inciting discussion about his insane thoughts, we are just giving him what he wants.

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Skip Bayless' brain at work.


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I have only seen him a couple times b/c the few times I have watched him he just rubs me the wrong way. I get that he's playing a part but that part is particularly annoying to me. As long as it generates publicity and interest in the show, however, sponsors will continue to pay for him to make dumb comments. If you want intelligent commentary, ignore the dumb ass commentary.

Just another dumb comment. Move along, nothing to see here. Don't feed the attention hound.

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I would not be surprised if the powers that be at ESPN have something to say about these comments. I saw the show and the exchange between Bayless and Stephen A (there's a match made in heaven, two of the biggest mouths in sports).

What Bayless said was both shocking and idiotic to me.

If he were fired from ESPN, he would not be as missed.

Bayless has crossed that line between analyst and controversy. He's now known more for making these type of comments then he is as an analyst.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;932413]Great points. I know you and Matty are right, best to ignore this clown.....I guess Bayless got me. I read his comments and took a few minutes to respond.

He certainly has no knowledge in evaluating QBs if he thinks Cousins is more NFL ready than RG3. He's the same guy that still thinks Tebow is "one of the best deep throwers in football" and "he'd take Tebow over Aaron Rodgers in a one game scenario."[/quote]

His argument for Cousins is he's been playing in a pro-set, under center offense for several years now that he'd likely have more instant success than Griffin. But his upside isn't anything to write home about.

My somewhat educated guess is that Skip won't last past his current contract.

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ESPN stirring the race pot once again. They're becoming more of a tabloid than credible sports news source.

I'm white, in fact, Irish descent and I'm rooting for RGIII.


I tried listening to ESPN radio this morning while my normal sports station was on commercial break. Mike and Mike were doing their "two-a-days" and Dallas was up. Mike Golic was saying their Super Bowl window is still wide open and Tony Romois one of the best QBs in the NFL, and the Cowboys' playoff struggles were not his fault. He said none of Dallas' problems are Romo's fault. They should contend for a Super Bowl this season.

Oh really? Witten might have surgery on his spleen and miss a lot of time. Dez Bryant and Miles Austin are struggling with injuries in the preseason and they lost Larent Robinson to the Jags as well as their backup TE to Witten to the Giants. Who is Romo going to throw to?

The whole network is a joke. Now I remember why I stopped listening to them. If they're not talking about Tebow, it's worshipping Dallas or New England or trying to manufacture a controversy like this racial divide.

Some days, we're treated to Mike Greenberg's fashion lectures or tales of his times at the Wiggles and Justin Beiber concerts he'd "taken his kids to".

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It's Skip's comments, not reflective of all of ESPN.

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[quote=Monkeydad;932433]ESPN stirring the race pot once again.

[B]I'm white, in fact,[/B] Irish descent and I'm rooting for RGIII.[/quote]

I honestly always though you were African American.

Interesting.

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[quote=mredskins;932437]I honestly always though you were African American.

Interesting.[/quote]

Why, because I have monkey in my name? Are you racist too?


:laughing2

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[quote=SmootSmack;932432]His argument for Cousins is he's been playing in a pro-set, under center offense for several years now that he'd likely have more instant success than Griffin. But his upside isn't anything to write home about.
[B]
My somewhat educated guess is that Skip won't last past his current contract.[/B][/quote]Do you happen to know if his current deal is almost up?

Honestly, isn't this comment so stupid that it's almost fire-able? I know he won't actually get canned for this, but a big part of me feels like he really should. I'm really not easily offended at all, but to me, this insults the intelligence of just about every white Redskins fan, myself included, in that it says we're either too dumb or inherently racist enough to value our own prejudice over talent.
Obviously skip has the right to his personal opinion but at this point I don't see how ESPN can justify paying to tell it - but then again, controversy sells.

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[quote=SmootSmack;932432]His argument for Cousins is he's been playing in a pro-set, under center offense for several years now that he'd likely have more instant success than Griffin. But his upside isn't anything to write home about.[/quote]I gues that's why he's a "journalist" and not an analyst. LOL.

[quote]My somewhat educated guess is that Skip won't last past his current contract.[/quote]I hope you're right.

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;932441]Do you happen to know if his current deal is almost up?

Honestly, isn't this comment so stupid that it's almost fire-able? I know he won't actually get canned for this, but a big part of me feels like he really should. I'm really not easily offended at all, but to me, this insults the intelligence of just about every white Redskins fan, myself included, in that it says we're either too dumb or inherently racist enough to value our own prejudice over talent.
Obviously skip has the right to his personal opinion but at this point I don't see how ESPN can justify paying to tell it - but then again, controversy sells.[/quote]

I'm not sure actually. I do know his new boss isn't a huge fan. I'm a little surprised this is getting so much attention now, but didn't when he said it before. I'm sure it will be discussed again today

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He won't get fired, but if it was Rush Limbaugh that said those things, he would have been fired right after the broadcast. Ok, I'm white and I love RG3. I also love Kirk Cousins. I also understand that Kirk was playing againt 3rd and 4th stringers and RG3 was being sent a message by the Bears 1st string the other night "Welcome to the NFL Rookie!" I'm glad it happened in Week 2 of the preseason and could be a learning experience for RG3 before the games count. Thank you Chicago Bears. Kirk would have been running for his life as well in the 1st QTR the other night. that being said, Kirk can make plays and so far with his limited sample size, he makes better decisions than Rex and should be our number 2 on September 9th, but Skip is just crazy to say those things and is just making headlines that other meadia types can't get away with.

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[quote=Slingin Sammy 33;932442]I gues that's why he's a "journalist" and not an analyst. LOL.

I hope you're right.[/quote]

In some ways, I see what he's saying.

Got your PM. Let me check

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[quote=SmootSmack;932434]It's Skip's comments, not reflective of all of ESPN.[/quote]

Of course. We hear that all of the time.

The company clearly has some kind of obsession with race.

They just called Redskins fans racist basically. Bayless works for ESPN, he represents ESPN. I don't see that he's been fired for it. ESPN said it. They relish the attention and controversy. It's not Skip's first offense. He said some really questionable things in a Blake Griffin discussion on air once, talking about the need for more white stars in the NBA. I don't even see skin color when I'm watching a game, I just like basketball. I don't get people who even think like this.

They fired that guy for his completely non-racist "chink in the armor" comment about Jeremy Lin. No one else saw the racism there. No one else thought he was intentionally using that as a reference to Lin's skin color. ESPN did.

Bob Greise called NASCAR driver Juan Pablo-Montoya a "taco-eater" during a college football game. He's friom Columbia, not Mexico.

They posted an article about Hines Ward's retirement, a part-Korean player with the headline "No Happy Endings". Sure, it's not racist or perverted obviously, but it sure did incite the questions and they love stirring the pot for attention.

Stephen A. Smith is constantly bringing race and politics into his "sports" rants.

Remember the big ESPN-initiated race debate over Rush Limbaugh's comments about McNabb? Here's his honest, non-racist comments in context.

[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=4][COLOR=#000000][B]Limbaugh:[/B] "I don't think he's been that good from the get-go. I think what we've had here is a little social concern in the NFL. I think the media has been very desirous that a black quarterback do well. They're interested in black coaches and black quarterbacks doing well. I think there's a little hope invested in McNabb and he got a lot of credit for the performance of his team that he really didn't deserve. The defense carried this team[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT]."

Really, what's racist about that? Back then, maybe people did not see the media's obsession with race, but if you don't see it after the last Presidential election, you never will.

After what we saw out of McNabb on our team, can anyone really deny that McNabb was anything other than a system QB that got carried by others on his team? Put him anywhere else outside of Andy Reid and he was complete garbage. We've also been hearing the "black QB" nonsense since Doug Williams, through McNabb, Vince Young, Jason Campbell, Mike Vick...now to Newton and Griffin. A lot of people, mostly the media, specifically ESPN still sees "black quarterbacks" and does give them a lot of attention for that reason alone. Cam Newton's play earned his attention. Doug Williams earned his. Any others...who cares what color they are? They either win or they don't. That's what most fans really care about. I don't care that Kirk Cousins is white and Griffin is black. I want the best one to play and lead my team to wins. That's it, ESPN.

ESPN is the one who roots and reports based on someone's skin color. They have a long, ugly history of it that anyone who hasn't collected a paycheck from them can see.

Then there was Steve Phillips and his John Edwards-like mess.

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[quote=Monkeydad;932439]Why, because I have monkey in my name? Are you racist too?


:laughing2[/quote]

No I would have never thought that; I think of you as Buster anyways.

Just your mannerisms (not any bad way) on here made me think that. We all have a mental picture of everyone on here. I just mentally pictured you as African American.

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Well you've made clear time and again your hatred for ESPN here. I also think your comments in the past on this board make it ironic you'd accuse others of being racist. But whatever, best we just ignore each other on this matter.

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MonkeyDad, I think the Limbaugh comparison is different. Limbaugh is a well known, well documented, and established bigot and racist, which made his hiring by ESPN very difficult to stomach. Skip isnt imo.

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[quote=mredskins;932453]No I would have never thought that; I think of you as Buster anyways.

Just your mannerisms (not any bad way) on here made me think that. We all have a mental picture of everyone on here. I just mentally pictured you as African American.[/quote]

That's funny. Thanks for the morning laugh.

If you saw me, you'd feel ridiculous. I'm a white accountant.

Goes to show you that you can't trust anything you see online I guess. Man, I thought posting a Britney Spears video in the music thread would have made it clear. :D

Matty loved that post.

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[quote=Monkeydad;932439]Why, because I have monkey in my name? Are you racist too?


:laughing2[/quote]

Let's not play with that. Anyway, where are all of the Cousins supporters on this issue? What Bayless shouldn't be talking about is a sensitive issue. Whether people will admit our ogre not, there is a significant number of people who question the ability of blacks in leadership roles. See Obama. Is there a double standard? Are people in denial?

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[quote=Chico23231;932456]MonkeyDad, I think the Limbaugh comparison is different. Limbaugh is a well known, well documented, and established bigot and racist, which made his hiring by ESPN very difficult to stomach. Skip isnt imo.[/quote]

Oh he is? Documented by who? The media who has been trying to destroy his career for 25 years?


[quote=RGIII;932459]Let's not play with that. Anyway, where are all of the Cousins supporters on this issue? What Bayless shouldn't be talking about is a sensitive issue. Whether people will admit our ogre not, there is a significant number of people who question the ability of blacks in leadership roles. [B]See Obama. Is there a double standard? Are people in denial?[/B][/quote]


Oh no you didn't. :D


[quote=SmootSmack;932454]Well you've made clear time and again your hatred for ESPN here. I also think your comments in the past on this board make it ironic you'd accuse others of being racist. But whatever, best we just ignore each other on this matter.[/quote]


Not just ESPN, but all of these media outlets who no longer exist to present news, but to start controversy and push their agenda. Some of us just want the news, without your out-of-touch opinions.

My comments in the past? If you knew me in real like, you could not possibly accuse me of being a racist. I think the whole "he's on the other side politically so he must automatically be a racist" mindset is kicking in again. My first candidate of choice this election time was Herman Cain until he resigned. Why? His business sense and economic understanding, not because of his skin color.

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I'm going to lock this thread because I sense it's about to descend into hell, and there's not much more to say on it.