Redskin @ Rams: Break it down
 

Who do you stop?

Who do you only hope to contain?

I assume they run a 4-3, since thats where Greg Williams was headed.

Saints are an afterthought Lets do this!!!!


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Vs the Lions Bradford was 17 for 25 with 198 yards and one TD.
Jackson got only 53 yards.
The Lions sacked Bradford three times.
I watched this game.
The only reason that the Rams were in it at all was because they picked Stafford three times, one that went for a TD.
The Ram's offense is weak.
They have a good looking defense.
If we dont have a rash of turnovers we win this one fairly easily.

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Before we let the Saints be a complete after thought: the NFL Replay of THE GAME is tonight at 8pm.

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They have a very bad offensive line, probably bottom 5 overall. They had a couple offensive lineman injured this Sunday also. It should be a good matchup for the skins front, but we'll have too see if the Refs decide to call holding. Also, Stephen Jackson is 29 with alot of miles on him.

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the rams will try and run alot more then the saints did .... stop steven jackson, since if my memory serves me correct he's gashed us recently... stop the quick little passes they throw pressure bradford.. cut down on mistakes in protection and keep RG3 upright and no special teams mistakes... and i think we should cruise if we do these things...

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As to the Rams. First and Foremost, you keep yourselves in check. We have lost to the Rams to many times because of bonehead Skins play, and this is a week that sets up like that. Big win, Rams have a heartbreaking loss. They see now what we want to do with RG3 and crew, but we should win "easily".

Stop Jackson, pressure Bradford, and don't make offensive mistakes.

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Lots of quick passes to keep their front off of Griff. Try to rely on YAC to get chunks of yardage rather than 7 step drop passes. Keep the Lambs defense honest with lots of zone-read options and play action.

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Cannot lose this game. A must win, redskins need to prove they will play elite even against shitty teams. We should handle the lambs easily. Pressure
Bradford into early mistakes and take away Jackson. Put points on the
Board and take advantage of all of our opportunitys like last week

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Their strength is their secondary. We should ground and pound and then hit them over the top. Expect the Skins to showcase Fred Davis as well.

The Rams lost their starting Left Tackle and another starting O lineman. We should be able to get to Bradford early and often. The only way we lose is by turning the ball over and making stupid mistakes.

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It's only Tuesday. Jeez!

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^^^

we're foaming at the mouth to talk football 24/7 after the solid W in N.O.

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[quote=Evilgrin;939541]They have a very bad offensive line, probably bottom 5 overall. They had a couple offensive lineman injured this Sunday also. It should be a good matchup for the skins front, but we'll have too see if the Refs decide to call holding. Also, Stephen Jackson is 29 with alot of miles on him.[/quote]

Yep, I read somewhere that they will be missing to OL on Sunday due to injury.

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;939552]Yep, I read somewhere that they will be missing to OL on Sunday due to injury.[/quote]

Yeah Roger Saffold and their C whose name escapes me

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;939544]As to the Rams. First and Foremost, you keep yourselves in check. We have lost to the Rams to many times because of bonehead Skins play, and this is a week that sets up like that. Big win, Rams have a heartbreaking loss. They see now what we want to do with RG3 and crew, but we should win "easily".

Stop Jackson, pressure Bradford, and don't make offensive mistakes.[/quote]This.

It's the quintessential trap game, one we have played against the Rams many times in Week 2 or 3, following great wins against teams we statistically shouldn't have beaten, one we have lost against the Rams many, many times in Week 2 or 3.

If we don't play down to them, if we don't lay a giant, rotten egg over there on Sunday, if we have an overall fantastic team effort like we did against the Saints, then I'm all in and will be thinking like Wilbon that I'm not waiting for next season and will be thinking of big things for this one.

Fun Fact: I trust numbers, math is the one constant in the Universe, and I did not know that Michael Smith of Numbers Never Lie had the 'Skins going at least 8-8 and getting into the playoffs [B]this[/B] year with the rookie QB. He laid out a very good case, noting that we swept the Superbowl Champion NY Giants and we lost both games to the Cowpokes with only a total of five points between the two and that was with Sexy Rexy and a defense that's improved since last season. He argued passionately and convincingly with the math that the pieces are in place NOW for the team to at least get into the post-season. If we shine this weekend against those godforsaken Rams - who, IMO, are a barometer of the true health of our team - I'm buying into [U]everything[/U] lock, stock and barrel.

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Finnegan is decent, but nowhere close to his contract, its not bad like a Haynesworth contract, but he's just a middle of the pack corner.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;939544]Stop Jackson, pressure Bradford, and don't make offensive mistakes.[/quote]

Pretty much this in a nutshell. The Rams OL is suffering as noted by Bradford's performance last year. He hasn't proved he can perform with the pressure in his face so I say bring the heat, and bring it often.

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Their weakness at Oline plays perfectly into our strength at Dline. We should be able to pressure Bradford without blitzing as much which is huge. They have a pretty solid secondary, but they give it up on the ground. We should be able to run the ball better against the Rams.

They got Jackson who always f*cks us up, so we need to key Fletch and Riley on him.

If we can grab a lead early, then we can just rush the hell out of the Bradford and look to cause turnovers.

My concern is their secondary, they were pretty decent last week. But its been mention above, Fred Davis and Niles could be key and a match up nightmare in the middle. Lets mix in the run with Alfmo and I want to see more Helu.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;939539]Before we let the Saints be a complete after thought: the NFL Replay of THE GAME is tonight at 8pm.[/quote]

THANK YOU!

I was hoping it would be. I watched the game on a crappy-looking stream on a 19-inch iMac monitor with the volume low because the baby was napping.

DVR for sure.

I turned on the NFL Network for their scoreboard a few times, but the TV was off most of that 3 hours...almost wish I had turned the Eagles' disaster on though.

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Scott Wells their starting Center is on IR (designated to return though but that doesn't matter for this game)

Roger Saffold their LT is hurt with a neck problem, but says that he will play.

I'm calling it now. Cortland Finnegan will get into a fight with probably Pierre (second choice Morgan)

St. Louis has Steven Jackson, and sam bradford. They're more competitive, but our offense should put up some big points on them.

Their LBs are improved though with Dunbar, Laurinatis, and other guy (Edit: Ohh Good ole Rocky McIntosh!).

Chris Long is their best DL by far.

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[quote=SmootSmack;939555]Yeah Roger Saffold and their C whose name escapes me[/quote]


Scott Wells, broke his foot, on IR now.

I'd say they have the #32, WORST o-line in football.




Michael Brockers will likely miss our game too.


They have a decent, well, improved set of WRs for Bradford. I think he'll take a step forward this season. Amendola, Brandon Gibson, the other Steve Smith, Brian Quick. Our secondary needs to continue their solidplay from Week 1.

We should win easily.

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Tighten up special teams -- Offense vs. Offense, the skins outscored the saints 40-25. RG3 can't get hit as much as he did vs NO, let him work out of shotgun more -- he had way more success out of shotgun than under the center from what I saw.

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We should be good on offense, but their defense definitely has it's share of playmakers. Honestly, I think we'll need to get creative to get the running game going.

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Our defense was on the field for all of 20 minutes against the Saints.

I dont think Stephen Jackson will be able to build up enough steam before he has to cut as their 2nd tier offensive line starters try to cope with our front 3. Our linebackers will hold his rush average to under 3.5 yards per carry.

Provided we break a couple plays on offense, this will be a sound victory. I predict a ton of rushing yards for us as we widdle down the clock from the lead position.

It's very exciting to be a Redskins fan right now.

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this by no means will be an easy victory, easy team to beat. Jeff Fischer gonna have these guys ready to play and they should have beaten a pretty good Lions team.

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The Rams have a weak OL that just got weaker with the loss of Saffold.
If (once) our offense gives us enough of a lead to force the Ram's into 'must throw' mode our defense gets to pin their ears back and hunt.
Our defense is going be all over Sam Bradford.

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Do they have any WR's that are game breakers? Meaning is any one going to get behind us consistently? I ask an honest question.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;939620]Do they have any WR's that are game breakers? Meaning is any one going to get behind us consistently? I ask an honest question.[/quote]

Only one I can think of is Rookie Chris Givens. But overall, No.

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Bad line, no deep threat. We should be able to handle their offense. I see us just burying Bradford. I predict a 6+ sack day. All they really have is Jackson - he's tough but w/ no line and no deep passing we will likely crowd the LOS. Don't know their D at all but think the speed of our O plus the lack of tape on RGIII will be to tough for them to handle.

Barring some type of let down, I just don't think they match up with us.

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the rams will try and get Jax going and use a short passing game . Honestly we shouldn't give up many points if we play like we did sunday.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;939628]Bad line, no deep threat. We should be able to handle their offense. I see us just burying Bradford. I predict a 6+ sack day. All they really have is Jackson - he's tough but w/ no line and no deep passing we will likely crowd the LOS. Don't know their D at all but think the speed of our O plus the lack of tape on RGIII will be to tough for them to handle.

Barring some type of let down, I just don't think they match up with us.[/quote]

My concern is with our offense on their defense. With Chris Long et al, they theoretically could abuse our o-line.

Going the other way, our defensive front 7 should have a field day.

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Redskins D still needs to work on and watch out for the medium to deep passes down the middle. Especially with the tight ends and running backs who may create mismatches with the linebackers. Sam Bradford is bigger and may be more accurate than drew brees (moreso down the stretch), which lets him have a greater range of vision and his accuracy will allow more control preventing the ball from sailing on him.

But if the redskins front 7 plays like it did against the saints, then this reduces the rams effectiveness in the areas that I just listed. Also Gomes hopefully steps up and plays well again - which should be the case if the front 7 plays well again.

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[quote=Lotus;939635][B]My concern is with our offense on their defense. With Chris Long et al, they theoretically could abuse our o-line.[/B]
Going the other way, our defensive front 7 should have a field day.[/quote]

Yup, its a realistic concern. Where have our turnovers occured? When there is pressure in our backfield with Griffin losing the ball scrambling and fumbled handoff. The mistakes will come with a young team, just need to limit the opporunity with good Oline play. Our Oline played well in pass protection, iffy on run blocking.

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For the redskins offense, they need to do more of the same that they did against New Orleans - mixing it up a little differently of course. The first possession might be a bit of feeling out because the rams may be prepared and doing things that the Shanahans need to adjust to. But hopefully the Shanahans come out yet another wrinkle of the offense that no ones seen before.

They need to also find Finnegan on every play because he likes to be aggressive and can be disruptive at times. Maybe on the screens, Trent Williams can focus on Finnegan to wear him down so he'll be less aggressive.

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To me, this is the real test of the Redskins. We beat the Saints, turned a blowout into a nailbiter, etc. However, New Orleans is a strong offensive team. St. Louis is the type of team we SHOULD beat -- I want to see us beat them handily. I don't want to be on the edge of my seat for the last 2 minutes. We need to learn to handle our business against lesser teams and stop playing down to them. If we can do that, I will buy that this is a new Redskins team.

I think their D gives us some issues, and Jackson normally has a good day against us. Stop Jackson, hit bradford, safe plays on offense to keep the ball moving.

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[quote=Daseal;939641]To me, this is the real test of the Redskins. We beat the Saints, turned a blowout into a nailbiter, etc. However, New Orleans is a strong offensive team. St. Louis is the type of team we SHOULD beat -- I want to see us beat them handily. I don't want to be on the edge of my seat for the last 2 minutes. We need to learn to handle our business against lesser teams and stop playing down to them. If we can do that, I will buy that this is a new Redskins team.

I think their D gives us some issues, and Jackson normally has a good day against us. Stop Jackson, hit bradford, safe plays on offense to keep the ball moving.[/quote]

Hopefully we won't play down and hopefully Kyle will realize to put the dagger in while we can. Almost a minute left at the end of the 2nd quarter and we kneel on the ball? I remember there was a series towards the end of the 4th where we just ran the ball 3 times and punted it away. I was like, really? We weren't up by so much that run, run, run, punt seemed like a viable option. I'm not saying we need to throw in situations where we obviously don't, but at least keep the other team guessing, don't just roll over and have the defense try to win the games for you. We know how well that's worked out in the past.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;939642]Hopefully we won't play down and hopefully Kyle will realize to put the dagger in while we can. Almost a minute left at the end of the 2nd quarter and we kneel on the ball? I remember there was a series towards the end of the 4th where we just ran the ball 3 times and punted it away. I was like, really? We weren't up by so much that run, run, run, punt seemed like a viable option. I'm not saying we need to throw in situations where we obviously don't, but at least keep the other team guessing, don't just roll over and have the defense try to win the games for you. We know how well that's worked out in the past.[/quote]

Yeah. We don't finish well. We've been moving the ball great, don't change anything. Giving a hot offense multiple chances to catch up, in my opinion, is a poor move. You may not take time off the clock with an incomplete, but those short passes could have kept their defense honest.

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[quote=CultBrennan59;939571]Scott Wells their starting Center is on IR (designated to return though but that doesn't matter for this game)

Roger Saffold their LT is hurt with a neck problem, but says that he will play.

I'm calling it now. Cortland Finnegan will get into a fight with probably Pierre (second choice Morgan)

St. Louis has Steven Jackson, and sam bradford. They're more competitive, but our offense should put up some big points on them.

Their LBs are improved though with Dunbar, Laurinatis, and other guy (Edit: Ohh Good ole Rocky McIntosh!).

Chris Long is their best DL by far.[/quote]

Santana would be the obvious choice for a fight.

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[quote=Monkeydad;939646]Santana would be the obvious choice for a fight.[/quote]

There's going to be a fight?

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According to CultBrennan59.

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[quote=Monkeydad;939646]Santana would be the obvious choice for a fight.[/quote]that's if finnegan has shame. if he's shameless, you know banks is his target.