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SmootSmack 09-23-2012 04:27 PM

Redskins vs. Bengals Post Game Reaction
 
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CrustyRedskin 09-23-2012 04:28 PM

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Cant give up 30-40 pts a game. Bad medicine my friends, bad medicine.

TheSmurfs22 09-23-2012 04:28 PM

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Secondary is horrendous. Lack of depth in secondary/D and O line. RG3 is getting beaten up way too much. Kid won't make it if he continues to get nailed like he is getting. Kyle Shanahan needs to go!

SBXVII 09-23-2012 04:29 PM

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LOL, game day thread got closed quick. lol.

TheSmurfs22 09-23-2012 04:29 PM

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We have had too many penalties which aint helping things either. Inconsistent play calling on the offense.

DynamiteRave 09-23-2012 04:29 PM

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Our secondary is in serious need of some help as is our o-line. There's no way RGIII is going to run the ball like this all year and stay healthy. (i.e. Vick and his ailing ribs). When the Bengals LB blitzed through the line and nailed Griff, it seriously looked like Griff was seeing birdies for a few seconds.

But even with the crappy o-line this game would've been different if we had a solid secondary.

Dirtbag59 09-23-2012 04:30 PM

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;943937]Cant give up 30-40 pts a game. Bad medicine my friends, bad medicine.[/quote]

Agreed. Ironic thing is this is 1999 all over again....save the winning games and stuff. Same concept though, great offense terrible defense.

DeAngelo Hall has to go though. Takes up to much cap space and can't cover.

TheSmurfs22 09-23-2012 04:31 PM

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;943937]Cant give up 30-40 pts a game. Bad medicine my friends, bad medicine.[/quote]

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Yep! Poisonous, you aren't going to hang for long when you give up those numbers game after game. Can't put it all on coaching, players have to harbor some of this too, but something aint working. Can't expect a rookie QB to bail your butts out every game.

SBXVII 09-23-2012 04:31 PM

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;943938]Secondary is horrendous. Lack of depth in secondary/D and O line. RG3 is getting beaten up way too much. Kid won't make it if he continues to get nailed like he is getting. Kyle Shanahan needs to go![/quote]

? Look folks RG3 is not a cream puff. He even said after last weeks game he's taken hits before. He doesn't have a problem with the plays I don't know why we should. Besides our best QB has yet to see the field yet. ;) lol.

BleedBurgundy 09-23-2012 04:31 PM

Wtf was the unsportsmanlike penalty on?


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Dirtbag59 09-23-2012 04:31 PM

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;943943]~~~~~~
Yep! Poisonous, you aren't going to hang for long when you give up those numbers game after game. Can't put it all on coaching, players have to harbor some of this too, but something aint working. [B]Can't expect a rookie QB to bail your butts out every game.[/B][/quote]

Amazing though that he's putting us in position to be bailed out.

Mechanix544 09-23-2012 04:32 PM

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need to find a replacement for jim haslett. guy blows goats, can't gameplan for a pee wee league team.

Dirtbag59 09-23-2012 04:33 PM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;943945]Wtf was the unsportsmanlike penalty on?


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I'm sorry I don't understand the question. Can you please give a 2 to 3 paragraph explanation of your question :D

TheSmurfs22 09-23-2012 04:33 PM

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[quote=Dirtbag59;943946]Amazing though that he's putting us in position to be bailed out.[/quote]

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True, but at some point others have to step up too.Players and coaches need to get on the same page. If RG3 gets hurt then we are completely $%^&ed.

FRPLG 09-23-2012 04:33 PM

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[quote=BleedBurgundy;943945]Wtf was the unsportsmanlike penalty on?


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Radio seemed to think it was on us for being on the field...even though the entire cinch team was too.

DynamiteRave 09-23-2012 04:33 PM

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[quote=TheSmurfs22;943943]~~~~~~
Yep! Poisonous, you aren't going to hang for long when you give up those numbers game after game. Can't put it all on coaching, players have to harbor some of this too, but something aint working. [B]Can't expect a rookie QB to bail your butts out every game.[/B][/quote]

That's the saddest part. This piece in place. Even the WRs, RBs, everything is in place. We've thrown up 30+ points 3 games in row! Normally that's more than enough to win. The glaring hole this year is the defense.

SBXVII 09-23-2012 04:34 PM

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Our major problem is Defense at this point. But in their defense.... they carried this team for years. Something needs to get fixed though on the defensive back field though.

Not that it matters though but I figured we would have won these 3 games. Suprised the Saints, and beat the Rams and Bengals easily. I guess I was totally wrong.

SKINSnCANES 09-23-2012 04:36 PM

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[quote=FRPLG;943950]Radio seemed to think it was on us for being on the field...even though the entire cinch team was too.[/quote]

On tv you only swathe bengls team!!they came out immediately assuming they won. I'm so f in tired of the refs in all the games I've watched. It's like none of the first three weeks should count....

Bushead 09-23-2012 04:36 PM

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Griffen looks like the real deal. Two drives that were very long in yardarge with under 7 minutes to go... it was sweet. Too bad the Gaurd decided to push that end; he pushed him right into griffen.

Dirtbag59 09-23-2012 04:37 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;943953]Our major problem is Defense at this point. But in their defense.... they carried this team for years. [B]Something needs to get fixed though on the defensive back field though.
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Not that it matters though but I figured we would have won these 3 games. Suprised the Saints, and beat the Rams and Bengals easily. I guess I was totally wrong.[/quote]

DeAneglo Hall is making $6 million right now with a $600k release fee. I say we start there this offseason.

tc2deuce 09-23-2012 04:37 PM

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explain to me why we dug up a retired tackle to backup Trent Williams!?
2 areas (o-line and secondary) in which we needed help last season and still failed to address it!!
why is the medical staff still employed?
Fire Haslett and let Morris run the Defense!

MTK 09-23-2012 04:38 PM

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Defense blows.

Losing Trent was huge, hope its nothing too serious.

Refs blows.

RG3 continues to amaze.

Defense blows.

punch it in 09-23-2012 04:38 PM

I blame this 100 percent on shanny punting the ball away on 4th and inches. The stadium was rocking and we had all the momentum. Im listening to shanny rite now on the radio and they asked why he didnt go for it? His answer - he gave our punt team and our defense props? This guy has officially lost his mind.

DynamiteRave 09-23-2012 04:38 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;943953]Our major problem is Defense at this point. But in their defense.... they carried this team for years. Something needs to get fixed though on the defensive back field though.

Not that it matters though but I figured we would have won these 3 games. Suprised the Saints, and beat the Rams and Bengals easily. I guess I was totally wrong.[/quote]

I can't even blame the whole defense. The LBs have been playing basically lights out.

I honestly can't figure out what's wrong with the defense this year. They're basically the same defense from last year save a few moves here and there. But somehow we've gone from 13th ranked last year to currently 28th.

TheSmurfs22 09-23-2012 04:38 PM

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[quote=tc2deuce;943957]explain to me why we dug up a retired tackle to backup Trent Williams!?
2 areas (o-line and secondary) in which we needed help last season and still failed to address it!!
why is the medical staff still employed?
Fire Haslett and let Morris run the Defense![/quote]
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Wouldn't mind seeing Morris step into Haslett's role.

aircoryell 09-23-2012 04:39 PM

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[quote=SBXVII;943953]Our major problem is Defense at this point. But in their defense.... they carried this team for years.[/quote]

What exactly did they carry us to? They were ranked 30th just 2 years ago.

redskins5044 09-23-2012 04:39 PM

We all the know the defense has weak spots in the secondary, and easy to blame them for our lose today. They did give us out first TD and caused a fumble with good field position. We has 2 three and outs at mid field in the 2nd half with the game tied.

DynamiteRave 09-23-2012 04:40 PM

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[quote=aircoryell;943962]What exactly did they carry us to? They were ranked 30th just 2 years ago.[/quote]

Last year they were 13th though. Our defense has always been up and down, but this is basically the same defense from last year.

Dirtbag59 09-23-2012 04:42 PM

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[quote=tc2deuce;943957][B]explain to me why we dug up a retired tackle to backup Trent Williams!?
[/B]2 areas (o-line and secondary) in which we needed help last season and still failed to address it!!
why is the medical staff still employed?
Fire Haslett and let Morris run the Defense![/quote]

Initially we were just giving him a shot in Training camp and he ended up playing better then Willie Smith and Tom Compton.

skinsfan69 09-23-2012 04:42 PM

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[quote=punch it in;943959]I blame this 100 percent on shanny punting the ball away on 4th and inches. The stadium was rocking and we had all the momentum. Im listening to shanny rite now on the radio and they asked why he didnt go for it? His answer - he gave our punt team and our defense props? This guy has officially lost his mind.[/quote]

If we went for it and didn't get it you would still be complaining. He was playing the field position there.

GusFrerotte 09-23-2012 04:43 PM

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8-8 at best now. Offense is very nice, defense sucks ass. I think Andy Dalton is a bona fide NFL starter and a pretty good one, but we made him look almost like an All Pro out there. Secondary should have been at least a #2 priority in the offseason at thevery least, and it better be a big #1 next offseason. Yeah the pick 6 was very nice, but still. We have no bona fide starters(including Hall) and no depth. Our #1 pick needs to be the best secondary man available whether it is a CB or S is irrelevant. Our offense is awesome finally, and now their efforts are going to be wasted on a rather porous secondary. Robert is better than Newton or Vick, and we have given him some nice tools to work with. We need Garcon back at 100% to at least open things up more for Hankerson and co. I am still upbeat about the way things are going, but man we need a decent secondary to get to the next level in the W column.

Bucket 09-23-2012 04:45 PM

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I love how D. Hall is the scape goat for people today. He was in tight coverage a lot with the best WR in the league. He shouldn't of been on lone islands with him, but it is what it is..

Defense has given up to many points. Jackson played well and I was impressed besides the few reverses he bit on.

RG3 Was good again for his 3rd game in.. If our defense could only stop teams half the time..

skinsfaninok 09-23-2012 04:45 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;943958]Defense blows.

Losing Trent was huge, hope its nothing too serious.

Refs blows.

RG3 continues to amaze.

Defense blows.[/quote]


Defense is as bad as it's ever been

punch it in 09-23-2012 04:46 PM

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;943968]If we went for it and didn't get it you would still be complaining. He was playing the field position there.[/QUOTE]

No i wouldnt. It was a difference of twenty twenty five yards on the punt and the entire stadium knew it. I was yelling nooooo when the punt team came out. If u think for one second i have more faith in this defense stopping anyone you are wrong. I do have faith that rg3 could have gained two feet. I absolutely would not have ever complained about going for it in a million years.

SmootSmack 09-23-2012 04:46 PM

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Well we tried to get Eric Winston and that didn't work out. Not really sure why Black didn't play RT and they didn't slide Polumbus to LT (not that Polumbus did much at RT), considering they had Black practicing at RT all summer

As for the 4th down I would have gone for it, but in fairness to the decision the Bengals O did nearly nothing in the 2nd half up until that point.

skinsfan69 09-23-2012 04:46 PM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;943964]Last year they were 13th though. Our defense has always been up and down, but this is basically the same defense from last year.[/quote]

Who cares what the rank was. How many games did we win last year? This team wasn't a good one last year and the defense was part of that.

MTK 09-23-2012 04:47 PM

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[quote=skinsfan69;943968]If we went for it and didn't get it you would still be complaining. He was playing the field position there.[/quote]

This.

I didn't have a problem with it.

mooby 09-23-2012 04:48 PM

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I'm gonna go bullet style points here. I'm not too upset with this loss, I think a lot of us got caught up the hype of RG3 and we need to take a step back and realize that everything he's going through right now is a learning experience. Winning games would be nice right now, but no matter how bad the defense is this year, if RG3 shows progress as a quarterback I think most of us would be ok with that. But then again I wasn't the one thinking playoffs after we traded for the right to pick him.

Quick points:

- Secondary is horrible, but we already knew this, so I think this is something we're probably going to have to live with for the rest of the season.

- First play of the game set the tone. We got dominated the first half save for one timely pick by Rob Jackson who happened to be in the right place at the right time.

- We need to get creative on defense because if we can't pressure the qb it will be an extremely long year on defense.

- Hopefully this is the first of many games where we don't have blocked punts/field goals on special teams.

- If you are going to be on the onside kick-recovering team, you really need to be aware of body position before you touch the ball. Not that we're going to see this too often but it's something we need to be prepared for.

- I hope that this option stuff is just something we're doing to continue to ease RG3's transition, and that hopefully we'll shed it except for rare occasions when RG3 becomes a competent qb, which based on what I've seen so far, shouldn't be a 3 year deal.

- Still impressed with the things RG3 is able to do on a football field, every game I'm reminded of the things a guy like him can get away with. As much as I hate to say it, I'm not a huge fan of designed runs that expose him to big hits. They definitely help because it forces defenses to respect the dual threat, but I'm ok with only using it enough to keep the defense honest.

- Sorry Jordan Black you are the weakest link. Same goes for Polumbus. Still not upset at the time for what they went with though, because I'm sure that 18 million cap penalty blindsided us and forced us to adjust our approach to FA. Not much you can do when you don't have the salary cap room to help your team get better.

- Not even going to get mad with the replacement refs, this loss is most definitely on us, same as last week. I don't like the calls but we should expect to deal with it for the immediate future, and hopefully our players aren't trying to rely on refs to make the calls because we've got no idea what will be called and what won't be called. As far as game impact goes, I think the refs are negatively impacting both sides.

DynamiteRave 09-23-2012 04:48 PM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;943972]Defense is as bad as it's ever been[/quote]

Real question is, what does it take for the secondary to get better during the season? Or are they going to even get better? Cuz I see this secondary getting worked for the next 13 games.

Dirtbag59 09-23-2012 04:48 PM

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[quote=Bucket;943971]I love how D. Hall is the scape goat for people today. He was in tight coverage a lot with the best WR in the league. He shouldn't of been on lone islands with him, but it is what it is..

Defense has given up to many points. Jackson played well and I was impressed besides the few reverses he bit on.

RG3 Was good again for his 3rd game in.. If our defense could only stop teams half the time..[/quote]

No NFL Receiver should ever gain 183 yards in a single game. I don't care if it's Jerry Rice in his prime or if it's single coverage on an island. 183 yards is unacceptable. This isn't college ball.


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