Redskins @ Bucs- Lets break it down
 

Ok it's WED, time to move on from the Bengals game and look ahead to Tampa. The bucs come in ranked 32nd in total offense and averaging 20 points per game. On defense they aren't much better (26th overall).

Josh Freeman - 71 QB Rating 4 tds 3 Ints. 491 yards passing.


On paper the Redskins are the better team, skins ranked 1st overall in scoring
33 PPG and 6th in total offense. The defense as we all know is horrific but this is the worst offense we will have seen yet.

I think if Trent Williams and Pierre Garcon are able to play the skins will win this game on offense alone.

Thoughts?


[url=http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012093011/2012/REG4/redskins@buccaneers#menu=gameinfo&tab=preview]NFL Game Center: Washington Redskins at Tampa Bay Buccaneers - 2012 Week 4[/url]

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The offense needs to establish the run or it might be a long day.

The defense needs to beat up on Freeman as if he were a piñata.

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I don't think Vincent Jackson has been tearing it up, nor is he another AJ Green; but I don't want to see him get 10/15 yd cushions or lined up one-on-one with a DB.

Jackson did nothing against Dallas, of course the cowboys are much better than us on defense. I think we double vjax and see what they can do with other guys

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VJ and Doug Martin scare me in this game. I can see them causing mismatch problems on our defense.

Donald Penn is a name to look out for. He is a very good underrated LT (ranked 99-98? on the NFL top 100 fwiw) He should contain both our passrushers pretty easily.

I still expect us to put up big points on the bucs, especially if Clayborns out. But its that secondary of theres that bothers me. Ronde is now a charles woodson safety, Aqib Talib is a very good corner and eric wright has his moments (he can either suck big time sunday or have 2 picks against us; he's one of those players.)

We play them in Tampa too so keep that in mind.

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;945622]VJ and Doug Martin scare me in this game. I can see them causing mismatch problems on our defense.

Donald Penn is a name to look out for. He is a very good underrated LT (ranked 99-98? on the NFL top 100 fwiw) He should contain both our passrushers pretty easily.

I still expect us to put up big points on the bucs, especially if Clayborns out. But its that secondary of theres that bothers me. Ronde is now a charles woodson safety, Aqib Talib is a very good corner and eric wright has his moments (he can either suck big time sunday or have 2 picks against us; he's one of those players.)

We play them in Tampa too so keep that in mind.[/QUOTE]

Clayborn is out for the season, I agree about our defense because right now we make any offense look good

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Jackson is still incredibly dangerous, Dallas's secondary is fierce and their pass rush got to Freeman. If we can't get to Freeman like Dallas did, then VJax will burn us badly.

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[quote=skinsfaninok;945586]Ok it's WED, time to move on from the Bengals game and look ahead to Tampa. The bucs come in ranked 32nd in total offense and averaging 20 points per game. On defense they aren't much better (26th overall).

Josh Freeman - 71 QB Rating 4 tds 3 Ints. 491 yards passing.


On paper the Redskins are the better team, skins ranked 1st overall in scoring
33 PPG and 6th in total offense. The defense as we all know is horrific but this is the worst offense we will have seen yet.

I think if Trent Williams and Pierre Garcon are able to play the skins will win this game on offense alone.

Thoughts?


[url=http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2012093011/2012/REG4/redskins@buccaneers#menu=gameinfo&tab=preview]NFL Game Center: Washington Redskins at Tampa Bay Buccaneers - 2012 Week 4[/url][/quote]

Thanks for the thread OK!! I started to crank it up this morning but im 0-2 on break it down threads!!!! Im sorry its been all my fault!!

Tail Pirates D is pretty stingy but their O is plum awful!!! Defense comes alive scores twice and has 5+ sacks!!!!!!!!!

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;945656]Thanks for the thread OK!! I started to crank it up this morning but im 0-2 on break it down threads!!!! Im sorry its been all my fault!!

Tail Pirates D is pretty stingy but their O is plum awful!!! Defense comes alive scores twice and has 5+ sacks!!!!!!!!![/quote]


They have a good D yes but your right that Offense is bad, I just see Griff having a big day

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Yards Allowed
WSH 429
TB 401
Pass Yds Allowed
WSH 337
TB 353
[B]Rush Yds Allowed
WSH 92
TB 47[/B]

This needs to be a huge pocket passing game for Griffin, Tampa looks stingy in run defense but worse than us on the back end. (don't know if that's possible)

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;945665]Yards Allowed
WSH 429
TB 401
Pass Yds Allowed
WSH 337
TB 353
[B]Rush Yds Allowed
[B][U]WSH 92[/U][/B]
TB 47[/B]

This needs to be a huge pocket passing game for Griffin, Tampa looks stingy in run defense but worse than us on the back end. (don't know if that's possible)[/quote]

Wow Skins have only allowed 92 rushing yds in three games thats impressive wait wait........oooooh thats right teams dont have to run it when they have receivers screaming wide open down field all day. But that stops this week baby, Hassletusdown rallies the troops, d comes up big!

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i do expect a bounce back game, especially if a few of the injuries subside maybe we get merriwheather back and he performs well.. trent and pierre we pray... worried with our d so far, freeman can move, and has an arm, so i wonder how we will fair... we shall see.

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A single second is an eternity in football, but that's what we need. We can outscore the bucs if the offensive line can give Griff 1 more second without pressure to the pocket.

They are going to score against us, there is no way to avoid that short of a reverse Clinton Portis/Champ Bailey trade.

So pass protection is the key.

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^^ but we dont have a clinton portis circa 2004 or wenever it was !

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One thing that probably helped with the Saints win was Raheem Morris's familiarity with how to deal with them. I hope it helps this time around too.

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Crazy Tampa has the best Rushing D and worst Passing D. Their D sounds similar to ours, but they are still trying to find their offense

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[quote=warriorzpath;945699]One thing that probably helped with the Saints win was [B]Raheem Morris[/B]'s familiarity with how to deal with them. I hope it helps this time around too.[/quote]

Good point. He should be our MVP this game.

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We need to carouse thier running backs.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;945929]We need to carouse thier running backs.[/quote]

Singing and partying with their RB's will set a very odd tone for the game.

Kinky......

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I just hope our gameplan takes the Bucs' strengths and weaknesses into account. We haven't done that consistently enough.

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The worse offense is playing against one of the worse defenses. I give the Redskins the slight edge because of our offense with RG3 and Alfred Morris. The Redskins should be able to run and pass on Tamp Bay's defense at will even if Trent Williams and Pierre Garcon don't play.

What's interesting is Tampa Bay's poorly ranked offense going up against the Redskins soft defense. Will the Bucs exploit the Redskins secondary? Or will the Redskins secondary step up and give Tampa's passing attack a stiff challenge? This might be the game where the Redskins put to together a solid game playing against the pass.

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[quote=Alvin Walton;945929]We need to carouse thier running backs.[/quote]

I agree. I vote for flaming Jagermeister shots for them before the game.

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RG THA Third, will have a monster day. I'm hoping Morris runs for 170+ and two scores.

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I have a feeling that the D will rebound somewhat in this game and play respectably. Tampa played both Dallas and the NYG very close the last two weeks. They'll be a tough out.

Let's see if Shanahan can [I]improve[/I] to 5-13 at home as our HC. :/

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[quote=hagams;945990]RG THA Third, will have a monster day. I'm hoping Morris runs for 170+ and two scores.[/quote]

You know they have given up 47 yards through 3 games. vs Car, NYG, and Dallas.

I know NYG don't have a distinguished running game, but DeMarco Murray and Carolina's aren't that shoddy.

Personally I would like to say a lot of max protect and chuck it type football this week.

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[quote=GMScud;945993]I have a feeling that the D will rebound somewhat in this game and play respectably. Tampa played both Dallas and the NYG very close the last two weeks. They'll be a tough out.

[B]Let's see if Shanahan can [I]improve[/I] to 5-13 at home as our HC.[/B] :/[/quote]

Going to be hard when the game is in Tampa

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Whats the word on Garcon???

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;946007]Whats the word on Garcon???[/quote]

His footsie hurts real bad.

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[quote=The Goat;946008]His footsie hurts real bad.[/quote]

lol So he cant come out and play???

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[quote=CrustyRedskin;946011]lol So he cant come out and play???[/quote]

No, he can't because he is just a big sissy. A girly man. A crybaby ... and, if he asks, you can tell him Redskins4ever says so and will throw down with him any time, any where! Wuss.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;946017]No, he can't because he is just a big sissy. A girly man. A crybaby ... and, if he asks, you can tell him Redskins4ever says so and will throw down with him any time, any where! Wuss.[/quote]

10-4 Joe, im sure he'll be at the club tonight doing the Roger Rabbit, Ill relay the message.

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For all those advocates of die-hard players:

[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/super-bowl-winning-quarterback-jim-mcmahon-says-wishes-192055029--nfl.html"]Super Bowl-winning quarterback Jim McMahon says he wishes he had played baseball[/URL]

[I]At 53, McMahon is in the early stages of dementia. He is part of the group suing the NFL that says they hid the effects of concussions. Though his career resulted in a Super Bowl ring and a Pro Bowl appearance, he still says he would have played baseball if he knew what concussions would do to him.[/I]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;945586]Ok it's WED, time to move on from the Bengals game and look ahead to Tampa. The bucs come in ranked 32nd in total offense and averaging 20 points per game. On defense they aren't much better (26th overall).

Josh Freeman - 71 QB Rating 4 tds 3 Ints. 491 yards passing.


On paper the Redskins are the better team, skins ranked 1st overall in scoring
33 PPG and 6th in total offense. The defense as we all know is horrific but this is the worst offense we will have seen yet.

I think if Trent Williams and Pierre Garcon are able to play the skins will win this game on offense alone.

[/quote]

The Bucs defense is alot better than the stats indicate. Gerald McCoy gives me the heebeejeebees. Their biggest advantage is that someone conned us into hiring Raheem Morris.

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[quote=Lynyrd Hankyrsyn;946036]The Bucs defense is alot better than the stats indicate. Gerald McCoy gives me the heebeejeebees. Their biggest advantage is that someone [B]conned [/B]us into hiring Raheem Morris.[/quote]

And someone who tries to con us into thinking that they are a Skins fan when they are not is a fool.

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[quote=Lotus;946038]And someone who tries to con us into thinking that they are a Skins fan when they are not is a fool.[/quote]

Mmmmmm....perhaps it's because Jordyn Shyply no longer plays in Tampa.

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[quote=Lotus;946038]And someone who tries to con us into thinking that they are a Skins fan when they are not is a fool.[/quote]

Bingo!

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[quote=RedskinRat;946034]For all those advocates of die-hard players:

[URL="http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/super-bowl-winning-quarterback-jim-mcmahon-says-wishes-192055029--nfl.html"]Super Bowl-winning quarterback Jim McMahon says he wishes he had played baseball[/URL]

[I]At 53, McMahon is in the early stages of dementia. He is part of the group suing the NFL that says they hid the effects of concussions. Though his career resulted in a Super Bowl ring and a Pro Bowl appearance, he still says he would have played baseball if he knew what concussions would do to him.[/I][/quote]

Sad. It's gonna be weird in 15-20 years when players I grew up (Seau was the first) with start complaining of dementia and having to hear of them taking turns for the worse.

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[quote=Lotus;946038]And someone who tries to con us into thinking that they are a Skins fan when they are not is a fool.[/quote]

So the hallmark of a Skins fan is someone who knows absolutely nothing about the other 31 teams not called the Cowpies, Iggles, and Gints? Thought there was a standard of excellence around here. Lol.

[QUOTE=Lynyrd Hankyrsyn;946095]So the hallmark of a Skins fan is someone who knows absolutely nothing about the other 31 teams not called the Cowpies, Iggles, and Gints? Thought there was a standard of excellence around here. Lol.[/QUOTE]
And the hallmark of a bucs fan is watching pirate porn while they sniff crank off their framed lee roy selmon poster. I hope u dont leave. Your way too much fun.

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[quote=punch it in;946144]And the hallmark of a bucs fan is watching pirate porn while they sniff crank off their framed lee roy selmon poster. I hope u dont leave. Your way too much fun.[/quote]

First of all, I didn't even know pirate porn existed, but thanks for the hot tip, Quincy. And I would not be caught dead sniffing Lee Roy Selmon's crank. For one thing, he's dead, and for another...just gross. You got issues, Chief.