Clarett runs a 4.82 40
 

LOL. Most of the olinemen beat him. Looks like he will be trying to make a team as an undrafted free agent.

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LOL.....thats too funny

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Yeah, I watched him run. He looked to have been adding some bulk up top, but obviously that isn't what scouts are looking for. It made me worried about how much 'in shape' Mike Williams will be. We do need a guy who can get up field, right? :oink:

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you got to watch him run? PLEASE PLEASE tell me about other people and their times and stuff. I keep hitting refresh on like 20 web pages trying to find combine info and no one has anything. it is drivign me nuts, please share what you have seen

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Sad..so sad

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft05/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2000680[/url]

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While that's pretty bad I'd still take a chance on him in the 4th or 5th round.

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Wow, what a speedster

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THat is downright AWFUL. In all seriousness, most high school running backs are faster than that. That kid had so much time off, he should have ran a 3.0 40 after working out. Pfff. what a joke

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I tried to tell you all time away from the game wasn't a good thing and you never what you're going to get when they finally hit the field again. I was shaky about this kid before and now I know, I definitely would not take a chance on an undersized that can run down from behind by defensive tackles. He's flat out slow.

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Gee Darrell Green at age 45 could beat him....................easily!

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How many players run bad 40 times at the combine - yet become beasts in the NFL. Terrell Suggs, our own Taylor Jacobs dropped out of being a mid-first round pick to an early 2nd pick with a sad showing at the combine. I still would take Clarett over Betts any day!

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LOL he could have ran over 5.0 and he'd still be daseal's boy!

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You got to hand it to Daseal, come hell or high water he'll fight to the death to defend Clarett and Spurrier. True love Daseal style!

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[QUOTE=smootsmack]You got to hand it to Daseal, come hell or high water he'll fight to the death to defend Clarett and Spurrier. True love Daseal style![/QUOTE]

don't forget Coles

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[url="http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft05/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2000680"]After slow times, Clarett quits drills[/url]

He apparently could go undrafted

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]don't forget Coles[/QUOTE]

and sportscurmudgeon!

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jesus i run a 4.8

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]LOL he could have ran over 5.0 and he'd still be daseal's boy![/QUOTE]


Don't forget me! :) this kid can't be judged on what he does at the combine he's not that kind of player, whoever takes him will have a heck of a back. he's a football player not a track star, personally I can't believe he's running in the 4.8 range back in the day I could run faster than that, I watched him run he didn't look that slow, he does look very powerful though big leg's and knee's his lower body look's better now than it did in college, I think the extra muscle hurt his combine number's and being out of football for 2 year's didn't help either, but it will help him at the next level.

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Beasts in the NFL? Suggs got supplanted by William Green again and again last season. He doesn't even start on a consistent basis. And we don't know what the hell Taylor Jacobs is.

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jdlea, you're thinking of Lee Suggs. Daseal was talking about Terrell Suggs

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[QUOTE=Daseal]How many players run bad 40 times at the combine - yet become beasts in the NFL. Terrell Suggs, our own Taylor Jacobs dropped out of being a mid-first round pick to an early 2nd pick with a sad showing at the combine. I still would take Clarett over Betts any day![/QUOTE]

I agree with Daseal. A players 40 time and this whole combine is the biggest load of shit. Remember Trung Canidate!
The combine results and 40 time does not determine if you are going to be a great football player. Another player who dropped in the draft because of a bad 40 time at the combine is none other than the all time leading rusher in the NFL Emmit Smith. He ran something like a 4.6 and 4.7. Some guys are faster during a game, when the old adrenaline is pumping. Put the fear of getting hit by a huge LB and some guys run faster.

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I agree 40 times are pretty worthless, but, there's no denying this is going to hurt his draft day stock.

For a player that has his share of concerns in most teams eyes, this was the last thing he needed.

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Emmitt, Trung, Jacobs etc. might have had bad 40 times but how many sat out the rest of the combine drills frustrated by their poor 40 times like Clarett did on Saturday?

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[QUOTE=smootsmack]Emmitt, Trung, Jacobs etc. might have had bad 40 times but how many sat out the rest of the combine drills frustrated by their poor 40 times like Clarett did on Saturday?[/QUOTE]

exactly. that's going to be the more telling point to all of the coaches and scouts in attendance there.

and what's up with elton brown of uva pulling out of the combine? I've honestly never heard of o-lineman having personal workouts for scouts but i guess that's what he's planning.

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Yeah - Terrell Suggs was a top 5 pick that slipped to the Ravens around 13-17ish area because of a defensive end's 40 time (granted everyone who was eyeing him wanted to move him to LB.)

How do combine 40 times work? Is it best of three? Or something similar? I'm curious from a cap standpoint how much we could shave by waiving betts and going into the season with either late round or UDFA pick up of Clarett?

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Its not his crappy 40 time that really worries me. In the long run, 40's mean nothing. But what can it be said from him having two years to prepare for yesterday, which could have been one of the biggest days of his life, and he just falls flat on his face? Then after his crappy 40; he goes over and cries about it and wont do anything else for anyone. He is very talented; and he is pissing it right down the toilet. I will be absolutley shocked if he is drafted any higher than the 7th round in a couple months.

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He also ran a 4.72

Betts cap # is only about $700k, cutting him for an unproven rook doesn't make a whole lot of sense.

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[QUOTE=skinsfanthru&thru]exactly. that's going to be the more telling point to all of the coaches and scouts in attendance there.

and what's up with elton brown of uva pulling out of the combine? I've honestly never heard of o-lineman having personal workouts for scouts but i guess that's what he's planning.[/QUOTE]

No, what should be a more telling point is how a FOOTBALL player played FOOTBALL on a field against top talent, in a game setting. The only thing this combine is good for is the player physicals, mental tests and interviews. Everything else is over rated by the hungry media and fans who are rabid for any NFL news. Everything gets over analyzed.
So Clarrett got upset for running a bad 40. Wouldn't you, if it cost you millions? The players that decided to skip the combine are turning out to be smart, not selfish or stupid. Don't read to much into a GM or an NFL source getting upset because a player did not jump through all the hoops.

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[QUOTE=Defensewins]So Clarrett got upset for running a bad 40. Wouldn't you, if it cost you millions? The players that decided to skip the combine are turning out to be smart, not selfish or stupid. Don't read to much into a GM or an NFL source getting upset because a player did not jump through all the hoops.[/QUOTE]

Well what if he fumbles in a big game and costs a team a touchdown or somthing? Should he just pack it in and ride the bench because he is "upset". No. He should have gone back out there to try to prove somthing. I dont think he really cost himself millions either. He was proboly around a 4th-5th round pick before the combine; now he'll be lucky to get drafted. I dont feel for this guy at all. Although I do agree with your assesment on the combine, its really not a good indicator of talent.

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Not participating in the rest of the drills did no good for Clarett and only raises more questions and "I told you so" from his critics.

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I agree that not participating in the rest of the drills hurt Clarett. I still think, if he get's a chance, he could be a great back. I just wonder how many people on this board would be boasting about how he's the best back since X had he stayed in college instead of trying to come out early.

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Let's see wait til draft day to see how many teams miss the boat on this diamond in the rough.

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Yeah...sorry about the confusion with the Suggs's. I always thought that if a guy put up in college, I didn't put much stock into the combine. Suggs lead the NCAA record for sacks when he was a senior and people tried to hate because his 40 was slow. I completely agree with that point about Terrell.

Clarrett, on the other hand, just perpetuated the notion that he has an attitude problem by packing it in after the 40. I know most of you have already said this, but that [B]really[/B] hurt him. Mort was talking about him on Sportscenter this AM and said that one scout said, "If he packs it in at the combine, what if he misses a block and gives up a sack in the game? How long will he sulk then?" That's a good point. You haven't seen him play football in 2 years, when he did play he was very good, but he was kinda small and got hurt then. Now he's kinda small, maybe injury prone, probably has an attitude problem and not least of all, is slow. I was shaky on him last year, now I wouldn't draft him.

Or at least that's what I say. The only thing is, I'm really conflicted because I liked him at OSU and if he falls to the 6th or 7th round, what do you have to lose?

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Josh Haldi, QB, Northern Illinois, just ran a 4.64

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711]Well what if he fumbles in a big game and costs a team a touchdown or somthing? Should he just pack it in and ride the bench because he is "upset". No. He should have gone back out there to try to prove somthing. I dont think he really cost himself millions either. He was proboly around a 4th-5th round pick before the combine; now he'll be lucky to get drafted. I dont feel for this guy at all. Although I do agree with your assesment on the combine, its really not a good indicator of talent.[/QUOTE]

Clarrett has never packed it in a game. In fact the guy has played through injuries, a seperated shoulder, during the OSU championship year. He came in and played in big games when he was not expected to play, because his team was behind and he performed well.
You are going to compare his getting upset at a 40 yard dash time and a game situation? They do not compare.
I do not like Clarett all that much, but some folks here are demonizing him for mistakes he made when he was 17-21. I think there is a chance he might turn it around.?.?

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[QUOTE=Defensewins]No, what should be a more telling point is how a FOOTBALL player played FOOTBALL on a field against top talent, in a game setting. The only thing this combine is good for is the player physicals, mental tests and interviews. Everything else is over rated by the hungry media and fans who are rabid for any NFL news. Everything gets over analyzed.
So Clarrett got upset for running a bad 40. Wouldn't you, if it cost you millions? The players that decided to skip the combine are turning out to be smart, not selfish or stupid. Don't read to much into a GM or an NFL source getting upset because a player did not jump through all the hoops.[/QUOTE]

so it's ok for a player who's had 2 years of negative press to quit in front of his possible future employers after one aspect of the combine didn't go well for him? I don't remember other players in recent years having a lower than desired 40 time like Terrel Suggs or Michael Clayton just up and quit. I can understand his way of thinking with him having his personal workout to help make up for his slow 40s but quitting after that doesn't make sense when he could have kept going and showed some of this "maturing" that he's supposedly gone through to his naysayers.
No matter how trivial the combine may be to some, it does adjust some players rankings for better or for worse and I'm sure some coaches may even look more at what a player does after a bad time or a mental mistake than the actual numbers themselves.

actual atheletic talent can only take players so far (ie Darryl Russel, Dimetrius Underwood, Alonzo Spellman) and knowing a player has his head on straight is just as important as his physical abilities.

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[QUOTE=Defensewins]I agree with Daseal. A players 40 time and this whole combine is the biggest load of shit. Remember Trung Canidate!
The combine results and 40 time does not determine if you are going to be a great football player. Another player who dropped in the draft because of a bad 40 time at the combine is none other than the all time leading rusher in the NFL Emmit Smith. He ran something like a 4.6 and 4.7. Some guys are faster during a game, when the old adrenaline is pumping. Put the fear of getting hit by a huge LB and some guys run faster.[/QUOTE]


Good job DW! I made that very comparison a while back and that is exactly who Clarett resembles with his running style, I see all the same instinct's as a runner as Emmitt had.

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[QUOTE=Mattyk72]Let's see wait til draft day to see how many teams miss the boat on this diamond in the rough.[/QUOTE]


I can see the Raider's all over Clarett, just Al Davis's kind of pick, regardless of all the nonesense surrounding this kid I will still be surprised if he last's past the 3rd rd.

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So in this thread the 40 times don't matter, but over in the Williams and Williamson thread we're all drooling over them, LOL

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Let me assume for a moment that Clarett is ever so slightly more intelligent than a rutabaga. He has had a full year to think about and recognize the importance of these workouts so if he is smart enough to tell lightening from thunder he would have shown up in shape and ready to do VERY WELL.

He showed up and stunk out the joint.

So, you tell me:

1. He's in top shape and just happens to be way too slow to be a stellar RB in the NFL

2. He's not anywhere near top shape because he was too dumb to realize the importance of these workouts.

3. He's not anywhere near top shape because he's too lazy and undisciplined to work out without some coach kicking him in the rear end.

4. He's not anywhere near top shape because his "advisors" and his "boys" convince him that all this "combine noise" was just for those guys who don't have a top flight reputation - - and he bought into it.

I don't care which of the 4 you pick; any of them will convince me to draft Katie Hnida as a kicker in the 7th round instead of this jamoke.