Skins Injury Thread 2012
 

I made this because I'm constantly fretting about where to post injury updates at so people can see it. So I made this thread in hopes that this kinda becomes a sticky and we can keep this thread limited to Skins injuries, rumors, updates, etc.

So to bring this thread up to speed in regards to the more serious injuries:

Fred Davis, Nick Sundberg, Orakpo, Helu, Carriker, all on injured reserve.

Fletcher and Garcon didn't practice this week.

Meriweather had a limited practice.

Here's the update on Garcon that I posted in the Around the NFL thread and then got OCD:

[url=http://sports.yahoo.com/news/redskins-wr-garcon-torn-ligament-165927406--nfl.html]Redskins WR Garcon has torn ligament on right foot - Yahoo! Sports[/url]

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Heard one of the ESPN guys stating that it's a very real possibility that Garcon could be done for the year. That if he cannot go after the bye......well
We'll see. ...tough injury year

Does BM have a chance of actually playing?? If so I'd hope he isn't running routes near AR...

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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2012/10/25/pierre-garcon-has-a-tear-in-his-foot/]Pierre Garcon has a tear in his foot[/url]

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[quote=skinsfaninok;956825]Does BM have a chance of actually playing?? If so I'd hope he isn't running routes near AR...[/quote]

Doubtful. Limited practice Wednesday. Didn't practice today. I'm thinking we won't see him before the Philly game after the bye.

[QUOTE=DynamiteRave;956827]Doubtful. Limited practice Wednesday. Didn't practice today. I'm thinking we won't see him before the Philly game after the bye.[/QUOTE]

If we win Sunday it'll be HUGE for our playoff push and some of these guys to get healthy would only help the matter

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any time i hear "torn ligament" it doesnt sound like something that is going to go away or get significantly better with rest. I hope i'm wrong.

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Rocca was a full participant which is good, didnt I hear something about us trying out some other Eagles punter??? Also was wondering if Aldrick Robinson is 100% - we are going to need him to step up like he did in New Orleans to lessen the pain of the Garcon deal - I have this terrible feeling he is done for the year based on what im reading and seeing. Will be nice if we can still have some run of success this year and get Garcon, RAK, and Carriker back for next year.
BTW I think this is a great thread Dynamite.

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2 things I want to state:

1) I was watching, I want to say ESPN; if not Foxsports; and they did a report on astro turf and how it causes players to get Lisfranc injuries and ACL tears greater than grass fields. Garcon got injured in New Orleans, which is turf. How soon until the NFL says "all fields must be grass"

2) I've mentioned this before, but isn't it a tad odd that our banner, of the 6 guys listed there, 4 of them are injured and/or done for the year...

[IMG]http://www.thewarpath.net/Banner_2k12_Final.png[/IMG]

[B]Fletcher[/B] [B]Orakpo[/B] [B]Kerrigan[/B]
Hurt hamstring and balancing problems| Torn Pec-IR | STILL HEALTHY


[B]Griffin[/B] [B]Davis [/B] [B]Garcon[/B]
Still healthy (knock on wood) | Torn Achilles-IR | Torn ligament in football; could be IRed soon

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[quote=imaskin4life;956830]any time i hear "torn ligament" it doesnt sound like something that is going to go away or get significantly better with rest. I hope i'm wrong.[/quote]

It just depends on the severity of the tear. Unless it's torn significantly or all the way through, rest can heal it.

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I had a partial tear before and it healed up just fine. It took a while though. 6 to 8 weeks sounds like a very short time. For me, it was a partial tear in my thumb from playing hockey and it took 6 months to really feel better even though I could play again much sooner.

Basically, if there is something partially torn and partially holding on, enough rest allows the body to reconnect the torn ligament. A full tear requires the torn ligament to be tied up and pinned to the bone so that it will reconnect and heal.

Many times, something can be designed to prevent the injured digit from overextending. Then, it would be possible to numb the area and let him go back out and play during the healing process. The problem is that the extra work is pretty painful after playing once the shot wears off. Basically feels like a setback even if muscularly it isn't.

[quote=Mattyk;956887]It just depends on the severity of the tear. Unless it's torn significantly or all the way through, rest can heal it.[/quote]

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i just want this offense to stay healthy and the defense to get healthy. we finally have a legit touchdown scoring offense, not field goals left and right. Now the d cant stay healthy. welcome to being a skins fan you get one not the other

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That new banner is nice, but its just inviting more injuries..haha

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RIP Chase Minnifield.

Be our Jarvis Jenkins next year, son.

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Does anybody know whether there's been talk about a concussion with London? I keep reading the balance problem, and we all saw him get knocked out of the Giants game...but no word of concussion? Maybe the team is being more "cautious" with the word because of the RG3 situation from two weeks ago?

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[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;956861]2 things I want to state:

1) I was watching, I want to say ESPN; if not Foxsports; and they did a report on astro turf and how it causes players to get Lisfranc injuries and ACL tears greater than grass fields. Garcon got injured in New Orleans, which is turf. How soon until the NFL says "all fields must be grass"

2) I've mentioned this before, but isn't it a tad odd that our banner, of the 6 guys listed there, 4 of them are injured and/or done for the year...

- New Orleans is fieldturf, not astroturf. They are completely different surfaces. Fieldturf is just as safe as Grass. I think the only place that still uses astroturf is Buffalo but I think they changed it last year.

Garcon just gets hurt. Don't blame the turf.

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[quote=The Goat;956909]Does anybody know whether there's been talk about a concussion with London? I keep reading the balance problem, and we all saw him get knocked out of the Giants game...but no word of concussion? Maybe the team is being more "cautious" with the word because of the RG3 situation from two weeks ago?[/quote]

From what I read, they are evaluating to see if a concussion is the problem. Shanny basically said at this point, its up to the Doctors. There are a fair amount of things that can affect balance besides concussions. Inner Ear problems and Vertigo I think are the most common. But even some Heart issues can cause it.

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FieldTurf might be better than AstroTurf, but some players have been critical of FieldTurf too.

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[quote=Mattyk;956924]FieldTurf might be better than AstroTurf, but some players have been critical of FieldTurf too.[/quote]i'd love to read what they have said about it, i love the stuff. i would play every game on it if i had the choice.

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[quote=Skinzman;956923]From what I read, they are evaluating to see if a concussion is the problem. Shanny basically said at this point, its up to the Doctors. There are a fair amount of things that can affect balance besides concussions. Inner Ear problems and Vertigo I think are the most common. But even some Heart issues can cause it.[/quote]

Good points. I've had dizziness from blood pressure issues, and at least one friend with the inner ear thing and it sucks. Although, in London's case I kinda hope it's the inner ear being the least serious of the possibilities probably.

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[quote=los panda;956926]i'd love to read what they have said about it, i love the stuff. i would play every game on it if i had the choice.[/quote]


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrM7YyP94Hc]Outside The Lines - Why FieldTurf is better than AstroTurf - YouTube[/ame]

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[quote=RedskinRat;956941][url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MrM7YyP94Hc]Outside The Lines - Why FieldTurf is better than AstroTurf - YouTube[/url][/quote]no, i understand why anyone would dislike astroturf, it's like putting a thin carpet over concrete. i meant i want to hear what the players are saying negatively about fieldturf. fieldturf is like putting a sponge on top of a mattress.

the only thing i can think of is that those little black pieces get in your socks and shoes, but so does dirt on natural grass... and it's not that big of a deal.

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[quote=donofriose;956919][QUOTE=CultBrennan59;956861]2 things I want to state:

1) I was watching, I want to say ESPN; if not Foxsports; and they did a report on astro turf and how it causes players to get Lisfranc injuries and ACL tears greater than grass fields. Garcon got injured in New Orleans, which is turf. How soon until the NFL says "all fields must be grass"

2) I've mentioned this before, but isn't it a tad odd that our banner, of the 6 guys listed there, 4 of them are injured and/or done for the year...

- New Orleans is fieldturf, not astroturf. They are completely different surfaces. Fieldturf is just as safe as Grass. I think the only place that still uses astroturf is Buffalo but I think they changed it last year.

Garcon just gets hurt. Don't blame the turf.[/quote]
Then maybe it was the other way around...all I remember is it WASNT grass

[QUOTE=los panda;956949]no, i understand why anyone would dislike astroturf, it's like putting a thin carpet over concrete. i meant i want to hear what the players are saying negatively about fieldturf. fieldturf is like putting a sponge on top of a mattress.

the only thing i can think of is that those little black pieces get in your socks and shoes, but so does dirt on natural grass... and it's not that big of a deal.[/QUOTE]

I hate those little black things. They multiply like frikkin gremlins.


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[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2012/10/26/london-fletcher-officially-questionable-says-still-another-48-hours/]London Fletcher, officially questionable, says, ‘Still another 48 hours’ [UPDATED][/url]

They have ruled out a concussion, but still dont know what the issue is with his balance. Londond said he has been experiencing it for several weeks but just told the team on Monday.

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I think they believe it's vertigo

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[quote=SmootSmack;957031]I think they believe it's vertigo[/quote]

I just did some quick reading on vertigo and found about 8 things that can cause vertigo symtoms. Some not so bad and at least one or two that sound pretty serious. Hopefully he comes out of this in good shape.

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sometimes when people have balancing issues, it has been linked to back problems--a bone could be larger/smaller or out of place broken or a disc in the back can cause it

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I heard on NFL Fletcher was full go at practice. But if he's got a bad hammy and vertigo, I mean, how well can the man play?

Hopefully, if it is vertigo, he can get better quick!!! And be 100% after the bye.

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There are meds he can take for the vertigo. If a sore hammy is all he's got, I think he'll try to be out there.

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[quote=SmootSmack;957031]I think they believe it's vertigo[/quote]

Who would start Robinson or Loz.

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[quote=Deivybaby;957051]Who would start Robinson or Loz.[/quote]

I read in an article posted here somewhere Lorenzo would start.

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[quote=Mattyk;957048]There are meds he can take for the vertigo. If a sore hammy is all he's got, I think he'll try to be out there.[/quote]matty, what are some negative things said by players about fieldturf?

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[url=http://bizoffootball.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=698:players-panel-question-safety-of-fieldturf&catid=44:articles-and-opinion&Itemid=61]Players, Panel Question Safety of FieldTurf[/url]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/26/roethlisberger-blames-fieldturf-for-decastros-injury/]Roethlisberger blames FieldTurf for DeCastro’s injury | ProFootballTalk[/url]

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[quote=SmootSmack;957080][url=http://bizoffootball.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=698:players-panel-question-safety-of-fieldturf&catid=44:articles-and-opinion&Itemid=61]Players, Panel Question Safety of FieldTurf[/url]

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/08/26/roethlisberger-blames-fieldturf-for-decastros-injury/]Roethlisberger blames FieldTurf for DeCastro’s injury | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote]interesting. i wonder how long the cleats they're using are? you barely need any cleats on fieldturf

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[quote=The Goat;957063]I read in an article posted here somewhere Lorenzo would start.[/quote]

I hadn't heard that. I read that Fletcher is getting better and would be ready to take the field on Sunday against Pittsburgh.

[QUOTE=REDSKINS4ever;957148]I hadn't heard that. I read that Fletcher is getting better and would be ready to take the field on Sunday against Pittsburgh.[/QUOTE]

Im thinking Fletch is going to start too.


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Yep he was full go at practice toward the end of the week...let the streak roll on!!

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The FO needs to play who's best for the TEAM.

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is A robinson ever going to get back on the field?