Draft 2005
 

Things sure have changed since the end of the SuperBowl, players have moved, we gained some digruntled players and so on. Now I ask the forum, who do you guys want the team to draft this year for the burgundy and gold.

Here is my picks
1Mark Clayton wr (Oaklahoma)
2 (trade down in the 1st) Justin Tuck (Norte Dame) Defensive End
3 Matt Jones (Arkansas) wr
4 Jerome Mathis Hampton WR
4(trade for Rod Gardner) Ben Wilkerson(LSU) center
5 Eric Knott Tight End (Michigan State)
6 Maurice Clarret
7Defensive Tackle

Well there it is for me. what u guys think. how would yours go?

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I like your scenario except for round 6. I don't think Clarett would be a "Gibbs-type" player.

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I have to say that receiver out of South Carolina is looking impressive. Sub 4.4 in the forty. It would be nice to get a guy that can get separation. As for Clarett...no way. Too fragile both physically and mentally.

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[QUOTE=Redskins_P]I like your scenario except for round 6. I don't think Clarett would be a "Gibbs-type" player.[/QUOTE]

:food-smil Thanks, I chose the clarett pick because he is a good kid, he's just got a bad rap for his mistaskes and the media needed a story, he can be molded into a great player if he is willing to listen, and if the pressure is taken of his sholders, which it what would happen with portis in the stables.

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you have us taking 3 WR in the first 4 rounds?!?! Why? We have at least 2 guys who are locks for the team right now. Thrash and Jacobs. We also have Antonio Brown who seems to be our return man next year. There's no way we fill out the final 3 spots with rookies. We may draft 2 but we're talking like a 1st rounder and a 7th rounder. We have more needs than receiver and there's no way we'll spend 3 of our first 4 picks on WR.

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Why in the name of all thats holy would we ever draft clarett? Hes a pouty little bitch, he had a shit workout at the combine (fullbacks were posting better 40 times than he was) and, oh yeah, we've already got 2 good RBs. Why wouldn't we take a chance on a CB instead?

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the kid from hampton was the fastest reciever in the draft with a 4.25 & 4.29 in the 40
plus clayton would give us the chance to move further down to get a 2nd rounder

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[QUOTE=Balmerskinsfan]Why in the name of all thats holy would we ever draft clarett? Hes a pouty little bitch, he had a shit workout at the combine [b](fullbacks were posting better 40 times than he was)[/b] and, oh yeah, we've already got 2 good RBs. Why wouldn't we take a chance on a CB instead?[/QUOTE]

****SNICKER****

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[QUOTE=Balmerskinsfan]Why in the name of all thats holy would we ever draft clarett? Hes a pouty little bitch, he had a shit workout at the combine (fullbacks were posting better 40 times than he was) and, oh yeah, we've already got 2 good RBs. Why wouldn't we take a chance on a CB instead?[/QUOTE]
:biggthump then lets take a corner makes me no difference

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I'd say Clayton may be a quality pick but I think the Skins will have a shot at either Williams or Williamson and giving a chance on one of those two could be a mistake. 'Tis better to have one game changing stud than two good players. Ideally the skind could drop a spot or two and still get a pick and the WR we need.

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I think Wilkerson will be gone before the 4th. I would like to see us get David Baas or Jason Brown at C. I would also like to see us take a DE in the second or third round depending on if we have a pick maybe Chris Canty, Jovan Haye, or George Gause. We might even be able to take one of thise DE's later. I would realllllly like to see us pick up Nehemiah Broughton late in the draft (5,6,7th round). He is 6'0" 250 and runs a 4.5. I saw him at the combine and he is a monster. He would be a great short yardage back and blocker. He also has good hands to catch out of the backfield. He just seems to me like the perfect blue collar player that Gibbs finds late in the draft.

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3 WR's in one draft? i think thats a lot, but ok

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I would be very happy with a trade down in the 1st round that netted mark Clayton and a #2 pick. Otherwise I take Mike Williams at #9 if he's there. I can't see the Skins adding 2 or more rookie WR's. They will probably add one veteran WR either in Free agency or trade and then draft one WR. Gibbs doesn't like rookies so he certainly would not want multiple rookies at the same position.

Would love to come out of this draft with a starting WR & DE. I think Center is a position that should be addressed in Free agency. I don't like the prospect of a rookie anchoring the O-line. Maybe we can draft a center to groom, but I would not lok for the starter from the draft.

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Clarett could not only be shopped by the skins but he could take Betts spot in his rookie year. If he's around for 6-7 I'd take him. If nothing else we could deal him. Let Gibbs mentor him and you always say you guys want diamonds in the rough that we extract. Clarett is exactly that. 95% of the people on this board talked about what a "true Redskin" and how Coles is what every Redskin player should be like - now you hate him. Fickle as hell cats I say. I bet everyone forgets about how Clarett would "never make it" and how he's just a "whiner" if he comes in and does great in the league.

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What about D-END? we need to draft at least one this year.

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Who cares about the kid from hampton, hes just going to be a special teamer. We have had blazing fast receivers. Patrick Johnson didnt do anythign for us just becuase he was super fast. Clarrett has no chance of being a redskin. He doesnt want to be a backup, hes going to want to prove he can start and that drafting him late was a mistake. Which basically means hes going to be really hard to sign and work a deal out with.

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[QUOTE=Skinsfanforlife]What about D-END? we need to draft at least one this year.[/QUOTE]amen!!! even if its a project type guy instead of an impact player ,we need to do something at that position

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Yeah most definitely. Also, I wouldn't say people were fickle. Coles shocked us all with that annoucement. I DO however agree that Clarett would be worth taking a shot on if he was around for the 6th or 7th round.

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I would take Clarett also. The forty is the most over-rated event at the combine. Football speed is completly different that just running in no gear on artificial turf. He is a very talented back. I sure hope he makes it to make all you people look dumb. The kid has skills, didn't he lead the Ohio State to a championship. Didn't he play the whole year hurt cause he was there only offense. Man guess he isn't that good. Sure he has problems, but who doesn't. I refuse to write someone off who has not even made the NFL yet.

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The only time I wrote him off was when people were saying that we should take him with a 1st or 2nd round pick. I would definitely love to see what he can do if he were available after we addressed our other needs. I would love to see him stay that big and be our power back to compliment Portis. Run a few more two back sets.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Yeah most definitely. Also, I wouldn't say people were fickle. Coles shocked us all with that annoucement. I DO however agree that Clarett would be worth taking a shot on if he was around for the 6th or 7th round.[/QUOTE]If we did not have Portis I'd say take a long shot with a 6th or 7th on him. A team will take a shot with him and I just have a feeling it will pay off.

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DHS, I like what you did there, if we go after Clayton were going to need a player like Jones a big target in the red zone, personally I would rather take a chance on Jones than Clayton and then see about drafting Roddy White, we already have a couple guy's very similar to Clayton in Coles and Jacob's [if Cole's is still around] the problem that arrises is Wilkerson might last into the 3rd rd and Mathis isn't going to last into the 5th, I defiently like your inclusion of Clarett I just don't think he will last that long, there's a lot being said right now by NFL people about Clarett I just feel team's that are looking for a potential starting back will take a shot at him earlier than the 6th rd. But I defiently like your drafting of Jones, not really sure what rd he will go after his showing at the combines he defiently turned some head's but he is defiently a project as well.

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Not bad. I'm against drafting Clarett. How do you figure Jason Tuck, Matt Jones and Eric Knott? :oink:

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[QUOTE=BossHog]Not bad. I'm against drafting Clarett. How do you figure Jason Tuck, Matt Jones and Eric Knott? :oink:[/QUOTE]

My original pick for the 2nd round was Marcus Spears but he may go in the first so, I also figured if we traded down we wouldn't be high enough to get spear with a 2nd pick if he sliped that far. My first would be Mike Williams, but he looks like he'll be gone by the 9th pick so that means trade down.
Matt Jones is a big Target who is 6'5, 220 and ran a 4.41. he a pure athelete and will be an awsome pick up. He reminds me of hines ward.

eric knott is good reciever for a tight end and he'll be around when that pick comes up another possibility would be Cody McCardy of TCU

ben wilkerson is a great pick up here I've read that the draft is deep for centers so, he may around this pick hopefully and 2 years ago he won a championship so he knows how to win.

Why 3 wrs,
1. its our weakest area.
2 who knows if we'll drop morton after june 1st cuts thats why Mathis.
3.Also we don't know whether we will keep coles, or McCants so we have to come up with options

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My offseason would include us keeping Coles, Smoot, and Pierce. With any remaining cap space, I would love to target Reggie Hayward. He is a true pass-rusher off the edge and would really upgrade the 4-man rush.

Then I would like the draft to go like this:

1. Mike Williams, WR, formerly of USC: Huge receiver who makes all the plays in the red zone. I think everyone knows about him, so I won't spend too much time.

3. Ben Wilkerson, C, LSU (or Jason Brown, C, UNC if Wilkerson is too hurt): Both are very smart players. Wilkerson is more a finesse player who is quick and agile. Brown is more of a mauler, one of the strongest guys you will meet. Both could replace Raymer immediately, or at the very least in the middle of the season.

4. Anthony Bryant, DT, Alabama: He is just massive, and offers a strong run-stuffing presence. He isn't particularly fit, but in a rotation with Salave'a he could be very effective and save us some money by allowing us to cut Noble.

6. Dave Kashetta, TE, BC: Basically just a blue-collar, blocking type of TE. He is physical and aggressive, but not much of a receiver. He's just there to come in and smash some heads in goal-to-go and 3rd-and-1 situations.

7. Lang Campbell, QB, William and Mary: Smart and efficient QB. He was named DI-AA offensive player of the year. Lacks big arm strength. Basically a developmental guy that could develop into a good backup QB.

With this offseason, we address basically all of our needs without reaching or overpaying, hopefully. We maintain our core, then add a WR, C, DE, run stuffing DT, and blocking TE. Also we add my favorite college player, Lang Campbell, who led my school to incredible glory this year! (In all seriousness, though, he is a good pick and could easily replace Hasselbeck, IMO) I'm not sure if the money is there for those re-signings AND Hayward, but it's what I would like to happen.

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[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]My original pick for the 2nd round was Marcus Spears but he may go in the first so, I also figured if we traded down we wouldn't be high enough to get spear with a 2nd pick if he sliped that far. My first would be Mike Williams, but he looks like he'll be gone by the 9th pick so that means trade down.
Matt Jones is a big Target who is 6'5, 220 and ran a 4.41. he a pure athelete and will be an awsome pick up. He reminds me of hines ward.

eric knott is good reciever for a tight end and he'll be around when that pick comes up another possibility would be Cody McCardy of TCU

ben wilkerson is a great pick up here I've read that the draft is deep for centers so, he may around this pick hopefully and 2 years ago he won a championship so he knows how to win.

Why 3 wrs,
1. its our weakest area.
2 who knows if we'll drop morton after june 1st cuts thats why Mathis.
3.Also we don't know whether we will keep coles, or McCants so we have to come up with options[/QUOTE]

Mathis won't be available in the 4th. It would be a surprise if he's there for our 3rd rounder. Spears assuredly won't be there in the 2nd, he's probably a top-15 guy. We don't really need a receiving TE, Royal is OK for that, we need a blocker. I do like the Wilkerson pick and also the Jones pick, but I doubt Jones falls there either.

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jones rates 3rd on my board behind Willams as far as recievers go. he's gonna be a steal!

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I'd go:
1 - Mike Williams (who I think we can get. The bears will go Edwards and MN will go Derrick Johnson out of Texas, if he's gone it could pose some real problems)
3 - Like others I like the best available center here. I have a feeling Wilkerson.
4 - Take a big bodied TE or a smaller framed OT/OG and convert them to a blocking TE. Look for someone with great hands but not exactly speedy (otherwise he'd be gone by then)
6 - Clarett if he's still on the board. He's better than Betts and Portis is one injury from our offense getting 4 yards a game.
7 - Look for DE or DT here. I honestly feel our line isn't in disarray and we need to give Daniels a chance. Wynn will always be solid. Depth never hurt though.

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I like Matt Jones................

I have a feeling Mike Williams will be gone before we pick.........being the pessimist I am.........