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htownskinfan 03-01-2005 09:40 PM

Smoot To Dallas??
 
ESPN ARTICLE SAYS sMOOT COULD END UP IN DALLAS,THAT WOULD BE A NIGHTMARE,PLEASE NO GOD!!

4. CB Fred Smoot Redskins 4 Has matured markedly as a person and player over the last couple seasons. Aggressive ballhawk with superb instincts, will come up and support against the run.

Projected landing spot: Dallas, Seattle, N.Y. Giants.

SKINSnCANES 03-01-2005 09:43 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
yea, Dallas definitly needs a corner. That doesnt mean that they have talked to Smoot or anything like that though.

But...if we dotn sign him, its technically a possability, although an unlikely one in my opinion

Redskins_P 03-01-2005 09:45 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
If Smoot is a real Redskin at heart, then he won't go......

I'm feeling more optimistic about Smoot and Pierce now that Samuels contract is done.

skin4Life28 03-01-2005 09:52 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
Technically teams can't talk to free agents till 12:00 tonight. Of course they have already, but keep it low key. If Smoot went to Dallas I would never here the end of it from one of my friend's. I sure hope he doesn't end up in Dallas. I think if he does leave though he will want to go somewhere where he has a legit chance at a superbowl. I can't see him going to Seattle when they have Bobby Taylor and Marcus Trufant. That's why Ken Lucas is leaving. So all we can do is wait.

jacobyfan 03-01-2005 09:54 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
Here's an idea! With our new cap money, instead of using it so we can trade or cut Coles, we can keep him and use the money to sign our own guys! Coles will be just fine if we can get Rabach and the blocking of our TEs improves. With Jansen back, the run game will open up and he'll be open more and further downfield.

If Smoot goes to Dallas or NY, I will throw up. I like how Pasta still is insistent that the Rolle rumor is true. We'll see soon enough whether he's a giant idiot or just a normal idiot.

Redskins_P 03-01-2005 09:55 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
Welcome to the Warpath Jacobyfan!

GoSkins! 03-01-2005 09:59 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
I have a feeling we will end up matching an offer for Smoot or just saying we will have to go with Walt Harris. After looking at that list, I don't see anyone I would rather have than Smoot. Hopefully Pierce and Smoot come back after they test the waters. I don't blame them for doing it. They should find out what they are worth and then let the Skins sign them to a fair contract. If they get ridiculous....... Gibbs has already made decisions on that.

Protect the team! (Which means: Lets not screw up our money like we did with Brunnel again)

jacobyfan 03-01-2005 10:02 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
Thanks Redskins_P. I've been reading this forum for a good while. Any other Nashville Skins fans here?

GoSkins! 03-01-2005 10:03 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
[QUOTE=jacobyfan]Here's an idea! With our new cap money, instead of using it so we can trade or cut Coles, we can keep him and use the money to sign our own guys! Coles will be just fine if we can get Rabach and the blocking of our TEs improves. With Jansen back, the run game will open up and he'll be open more and further downfield.
[/QUOTE]

Yeah. We would probably be better off financially to keep Coles and allocate him to the practice squad than if we released him. I wonder how much of a distraction that would be?:cheeky-sm

That Guy 03-01-2005 10:03 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
[QUOTE=jacobyfan] We'll see soon enough whether he's a giant idiot or just a normal idiot.[/QUOTE]

lol, great first post, and welcome to the board... I agree with keeping our own and getting rabach and a blocking TE... neither one would break the bank, and after ssmoot + pierce, we should have enough to get a WR (either mason or TJ as insurance) and be happy to sit this dance out...

that'd let us go WR, then DE in the draft and be free to use the rest of our picks on backups and longshots...

That Guy 03-01-2005 10:05 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
[QUOTE=GoSkins!]We would probably be better off financially to keep Coles and allocate him to the practice squad than if we released him.[/QUOTE]

he's played more than 2 years, he can't be put on the practice squad ;)... and you can't place him on IR without his consent either... but since this seems to be about money, i doubt he'll take games off if he wants to get paid.

BigSKINBauer 03-01-2005 10:07 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
if he does go i will have to burn his jerseys on top my house

GoSkins! 03-01-2005 10:13 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
[QUOTE=That Guy]he's played more than 2 years, he can't be put on the practice squad ;)... and you can't place him on IR without his consent either... but since this seems to be about money, i doubt he'll take games off if he wants to get paid.[/QUOTE]

Yeah... I was joking! (but I really didn't know about the 2 year rule).

I don't want Coles to be a distraction, and it would suck to build around a guy who wants to bail at his first chance. We can't do what we want to build the team if we have to take the cap hit to let him leave. The situation really bites. Maybe he will come around.

If not, I do remember 1 Keyshawn Johnson that was sent home for a period of time in Tampa....

PSUskinsfan11 03-01-2005 10:28 PM

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Smoot needs to come back. After Samuels restructure I think it is a good sign. We should just send Coles to nfl europe for trying to screw up our "quiet" offseason.

BigSKINBauer 03-01-2005 10:34 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
possible only an hour and a half till smoot is not a redskins anymore
i hope he agrees to come back but reports on espn say we want rolle even though we deny it.

Wow never thought of it that way
if we get rolle we will be better but will lack that spirit smoot brings, he will be missed but if he goes to dallas he is instantly an enemy! look at the projected places we play all of them!! that means we play smoot next year or he will be on our team
i hope it is at home i think the seahalks are at home and dallas and new york are in the division so he will be in Fed Ex field again!

Y did espn not put washington as a projected place for smoot but put the only projected place for rolle at the skins,most people have 3 or for projections and rolle has only us and smoot is not one with us and pierce is.

but if i had to choose pierce or smoot i would pick pierce but i am SURE that some disagree... hopefully it is just some

Sheriff Gonna Getcha 03-01-2005 10:50 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
I've wanted to keep Smoot, but if he ends up in Dallas, I say screw him.

PSUskinsfan11 03-01-2005 10:51 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
sorry man i would have to disagree with you on that one. You can get any MLB between Washington and Arrington and they will look decent. Without Smoot we are missing a piece of the heart of our team even if we get Rolle to replace him. If we sign Smoot and not Pierce we still have a shot with Barrow plus we have some young guys who could be the next Pierce like Clifton Smith. Also there are some good FA MLB's out there specifically Hartwell that I wouldn't mind having.

drew54 03-01-2005 10:59 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
Maybe Marshall will slide to MLB if Pierce doesnt resign. And if he is healthy we still have Barrow.

JWsleep 03-01-2005 11:25 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
The ESPN list was compiled by Pastabelly. Probably did it to screw with skins fans. The fat POS.

Gibbs has been sounding pretty optimistic about Smoot lately. We'll see! It's 11:24 PM on the night of March 1st...

That Guy 03-01-2005 11:30 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
the FA MLBs are going to be cheaper than rolle (who's the only corner i'd really look at.. law is older and more expensive, very recently injured etc)... i think pierce is mroe of a system player, but its our system and he obviously knows it VERY well, so i think he'd be more important in keeping the D rolling, even though smoot is a better player.... CB in williams defense (which none of the FA MLBs know, but rolle does) is very simple.... cover your guy, and don't expect any help...

Big C 03-02-2005 12:19 AM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
just a possibility, i dont know what info there is behind this

skinsfanthru&thru 03-02-2005 12:21 AM

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[QUOTE=Ramseyfan]I've wanted to keep Smoot, but if he ends up in Dallas, I say screw him.[/QUOTE]

if he even negotiates with Dallas I say screw 'em. a real redskins would never even think about using the cowpies as contract leverage.

BigSKINBauer 03-02-2005 05:18 AM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
true but how much did he negotiate. he will be in fedex next year will it be in burgondy and gold or some ugly shade of blue w/ the cowboys, giants, or seahalks?

BossHog 03-02-2005 08:40 AM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
I don't believe DAL will sign any CB for much more than a $10 million dollar signing bonus. And if Smoot signs with DAL just to follow Dieon's shadow, he is really out of his mind. :oink:

BossHog 03-02-2005 09:44 AM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
Yeah. Pasquerelli predicted Rabasch would end up with us too. Let the powers that be choke on the Smoot signing. :oink:

sportscurmudgeon 03-02-2005 07:49 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
slkin4life28:

Seattle indeed has Bobby Taylor on the roster but he didn't start there last year and played dime back - not nickel back - for at least a few of the games. Taylor is finished as a quality CB; his presence will not deter a CB from going to Seattle nor will it prevent the Seahawks from trying to upgrade that position.



Regarding the idea of putting Coles on IR or on the practice squad - - neither of which is permissable but pretend that it is for a moment - - that means you would pay him not to play. Can you explain in simple terms how this is different from "dead money"? And by the way, what would you do with Coles next year after you disrespect him this year. Put him on IR again and pay him? I'm glad the person who thinks that is a good idea is not in charge of cap management for the Redskins...

jacobyfan 03-02-2005 08:18 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
ESPN Insider Reports the following from March 1st, contrary to what Pasta has to say:

[i]Mar. 1 -[/i] Smoot has been mentioned as a possibility for the Jets, but the free-agent cornerback might not being going anywhere, writes Michael Wilbon of The Washington Post. If the Redskins have ended their pursuit of free-agent CB Samari Rolle, as some reports indicate, conventional wisdom suggests they must find a way to re-sign Smoot. "It all depends on where the numbers fall," a source told The Post. Smoot is reportedly seeking a $14 million signing bonus, which is about $4 million more than the Redskins appear willing to spend.

It only lists the Jets and Redskins as main possibilities.

monk81 03-02-2005 08:23 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
[QUOTE=jacobyfan]Thanks Redskins_P. I've been reading this forum for a good while. Any other Nashville Skins fans here?[/QUOTE]

Welcome Jacobyfan............I'm not from Tennesse......but I'm in Texas.....

monk81 03-02-2005 08:26 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
[QUOTE=BossHog]I don't believe DAL will sign any CB for much more than a $10 million dollar signing bonus. And if Smoot signs with DAL just to follow Dieon's shadow, he is really out of his mind. :oink:[/QUOTE]

If he's really out of his mind BossHog....then he BELONGS in Dallas :biggthump

SmootSmack 03-02-2005 09:18 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
Cowboys Sign Anthony Henry

[url]http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/sports/colleges/mercer/11034864.htm[/url]

Should put to rest any Smoot to Dallas rumors

KLHJ2 03-02-2005 09:51 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
[QUOTE=That Guy]lol, great first post, and welcome to the board... I agree with keeping our own and getting rabach and a blocking TE... neither one would break the bank, and after ssmoot + pierce, we should have enough to get a WR (either mason or TJ as insurance) and be happy to sit this dance out...

that'd let us go WR, then DE in the draft and be free to use the rest of our picks on backups and longshots...[/QUOTE]

I am glad to see that someone other than myself is leaning more towards the draft rather than spending too much on a player that might boost our team.

That Guy 03-02-2005 11:23 PM

Re: Smoot To Dallas??
 
[QUOTE=smootsmack]Cowboys Sign Anthony Henry
...
Should put to rest any Smoot to Dallas rumors[/QUOTE]

man, that's some good news.


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