Redskins Offensive Line: 2012 Unsung Heroes
 

This thread needed to be started. Hopefully it will be an ongoing discussion for the remainder of the season.

The Redskins offensive line have definitely been the unsung heroes of the 2012 season. Obviously, and for good reason, much of the praise has been heaped upon RGIII and Afred Morris. Our very own dynamic duo. But you can't separate their individual efforts from the collective play of this blue collar unit.

Discuss.

Tw is the,man

Far and away above any expectations i had. Like I said during the game day thread, they are opening holes for Almo that Moses would be proud of. They are a piece or two from being a dominant line, but they have kept RG-3 uprite for the most part when he drops back and that was a big fear of mine going into the season. Hail the o-line for sure.

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Let's also not forget the WR's awesome job by all of them.

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Agreed. Don't remember seeing WRs holding off DBs like that for a looooong time.

Not only that, our WRs making INSANE catches is a real sight for sore eyes. It always seemed like other teams WRs would be making backflip, one-handed grabs and today it was our turn to get in on the act.

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Yup. Seems the other teams WR are always making the acrobatic catches except for our ours.

And what the fukc is up with Santana Moss? Like, normal 'Skins protocol is to suck and get cut the following year. He's actually contributing like he wants a Super Bowl and shit. #weird #ballin

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LOL, seriously nice to see. Santana is ballin' hard even with limited opportunities.

Moss has 7 TDs

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Our line has been somewhere between just ok and brilliant at times on the whole.

It is a very solid to almost great run blocking line but a poor to below average pass blocking group. Bob makes their stats look better than they should be and they aren't that good anyways.

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I said the O-Line was strong this year. It's not built for power by any means, but this could be the best O-Line in Shanny's career he's had for his system.

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The offensive line played beautifully. Of course I didn't like them allowing 4 sacks on Griffin III, but they pass protected well and blocked well for Morris. They did their job.

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I have a new erespect for Kory Lictensteiger. To come back after that terrible knee injury a year ago and to be able to play at the level he's played at speaks volumes. It would be excellent if Lichtensteiger was selected for the pro bowl.

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OL was supposed to be our weakness or one of the main weaknesses this year.

They're good enough to win a super bowl with them.

People bash Polumbus, and yes, he is the worst of our OLineman, but he's still better than most the RTs in the NFL, and the Giants, Eagles, Steelers, Cowboys, would love to have him right now...

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the OL gave up 4 sacks, a bunch of hits, and if griffin weren't there to bail them out, we'd be dogging them pretty hard right now.

I don't think these guys are hall of famers. though they definitely are good enough (except for polumbus, who'd i'd replace asap).

[QUOTE=CultBrennan59;967184]OL was supposed to be our weakness or one of the main weaknesses this year.

They're good enough to win a super bowl with them.

[B]People bash Polumbus, and yes, he is the worst of our OLineman, but he's still better than most the RTs in the NFL, and the Giants, Eagles, Steelers, Cowboys, would love to have him right now...[/b][/QUOTE]

I think you may be over stating that just a bit.

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Kyle and Mike have done a terrific job putting together an offensive scheme that can take advantage of the team's talents. This line is not big, but they can move, so we have stretch zone plays that outflank the defense, and a decisive back who is very hard to bring down once he makes the one-cut.

Our WRs are sturdy and willing to block, they're sharp route-runners. And needless to say, RG3 is all that and a bag o' Doritos.

What's amazing is that going into this offseason (which we don't even need to think about yet), do we really need any offensive pieces? Anybody we pick up would seem to be luxury/depth. We can focus almost all of our resources on defense.

Future's so bright.

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look all they have to do is hold up but let pray they stay up all year.

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[quote=Schneed10;967222][B]Kyle and Mike have done a terrific job putting together an offensive scheme that can take advantage of the team's talents. This line is not big, but they can move, so we have stretch zone plays that outflank the defense, and a decisive back who is very hard to bring down once he makes the one-cut.[/B]

Our WRs are sturdy and willing to block, they're sharp route-runners. And needless to say, RG3 is all that and a bag o' Doritos.

What's amazing is that going into this offseason (which we don't even need to think about yet), do we really need any offensive pieces? Anybody we pick up would seem to be luxury/depth. We can focus almost all of our resources on defense.

Future's so bright.[/quote]
This is a great point. A main reason our OL is playing at the level that they are is because they are good fits for the offense we run and we run plays to their strengths. This is not the Hogs 2.0. These guys aren't going to blow defensive lines 3 yards off of the ball because that's not what they're expected to do. This isn't a power running line but for what the scheme calls for, they are balling out.

It will be interesting to see next year if LeReibus can push Liectenstiger for the LG spot and who we bring in to replace Brown & Polumbus. After many years of neglect, our line is no longer a cause of major concern. Shanahan deserves credit for addressing and improving that.

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I agree that the offensive line has played admirably this season. Trent Williams is playing at an all pro level and Kory Lichtensteiger has been pancaking DTs and linebackers all season. While I would like to see an upgrade at center, I feel Will Montgomery has been spectacular. Chris Chester has been quiet but I don't think he's given up a sack all year long. A lot of people feel Polumbus is below average but for a 2nd string RT he has played well all season.

[QUOTE=Schneed10;967222]Kyle and Mike have done a terrific job putting together an offensive scheme that can take advantage of the team's talents. This line is not big, but they can move, so we have stretch zone plays that outflank the defense, and a decisive back who is very hard to bring down once he makes the one-cut.

Our WRs are sturdy and willing to block, they're sharp route-runners. And needless to say, RG3 is all that and a bag o' Doritos.

What's amazing is that going into this offseason (which we don't even need to think about yet), do we really need any offensive pieces? Anybody we pick up would seem to be luxury/depth. We can focus almost all of our resources on defense.

Future's so bright.[/QUOTE]

RT. The way Garcon and the rest of the wr's look lately - Robinson and even Hank - i would say that WR is a non issue. Though we have to wonder if this is Moss's swan song? Davis will be back at tight end. Alot of talented youth on that side of the ball. Yeah offense looks pretty solid For sometime.

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The Redskins have been a top ten offense all season long. Certainly the Redskins have improved tremendously since last season. If Bruce Allen has sighted anything at all wrong with the offensive line, I'm sure he and Mike Shanahan will address it in free agency. Compton, Gettis, and LeRibeus won't be starting anytime soon.

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[quote=punch it in;967258]RT. The way Garcon and the rest of the wr's look lately - Robinson and even Hank - i would say that WR is a non issue. Though we have to wonder if this is Moss's swan song? Davis will be back at tight end. Alot of talented youth on that side of the ball. Yeah offense looks pretty solid For sometime.[/quote]

I really believe that Moss could do a Welker-like thing (play the slot) when he can't run a post anymore. So no, I don't think this is his swan song. With RG3 at QB receivers are gonna hang around as long as they can.

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Where was Dezmon Briscoe yesterday?

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Chris Chester has been one of the more under-appreciated FA acquisitions of recent years. I remember a few people here lambasting the move. Do they feel the same now?

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[quote=Schneed10;967222]Kyle and Mike have done a terrific job putting together an offensive scheme that can take advantage of the team's talents. This line is not big, but they can move, so we have stretch zone plays that outflank the defense, and a decisive back who is very hard to bring down once he makes the one-cut.

Our WRs are sturdy and willing to block, they're sharp route-runners. And needless to say, RG3 is all that and a bag o' Doritos.

What's amazing is that going into this offseason (which we don't even need to think about yet), do we really need any offensive pieces? Anybody we pick up would seem to be luxury/depth. We can focus almost all of our resources on defense.

Future's so bright.[/quote]We need players that make people miss in open space. So if Brandon Banks were a concept instead of a bad football player, we would need that.

Garcon is really good after the catch, but we need more players that fit that mold to make this offense work long term.

The good news is that we don't need to target any one position.

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I'm not ready to say we're set at WR, we still need a consistent playmaker in the red zone. We've been getting by well with the talent we have, but I'd still like to see us address the position during off season.

As far as Hank, eh, he's been okay. Nothing to really write home about honestly.

Chester is a stud.. boomer!

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[quote=SmootSmack;967287]Chris Chester has been one of the more under-appreciated FA acquisitions of recent years. I remember a few people here lambasting the move. Do they feel the same now?[/quote]

I never bashed the move, because quiet simply, we needed OLineman.


He is a very solid guard.

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mike didn't put a scheme together around te OL we had, he got OL that fit his scheme, if you don't remember. that's why guys like chester came in and the bigger guys all went away. he likes small fast OL guys and that's what he went out and got.

and, i mean, it's working, so why mess with it. i would seriously look at vollmer in NE as a new RT though. we can't spend money on a LT type player, but he's a solid RT that could be in the price range.

has anyone done an updated run analysis on the skins? we've been running left almost twice as much as right the last couple years from what i remember. is that still the same?

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;967287]Chris Chester has been one of the more under-appreciated FA acquisitions of recent years. I remember a few people here lambasting the move. Do they feel the same now?[/QUOTE]

He's been rock solid, great fit for this zbs.

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[quote=SmootSmack;967287]Chris Chester has been one of the more under-appreciated FA acquisitions of recent years. I remember a few people here lambasting the move. Do they feel the same now?[/quote]Pleasantly surprised how he's doing. Thought he sucked at first.

OL never gets enough credit, unless you're the old Hogs. But I do think our OL is overrated at pass protection. Griffin escapes so many sacks. We run so much, it sets up the play-action nicely. The plays themselves where our guys are actually run-blocking at the LOS, whether RG3 has the option or not, we really sell the playaction with how the line and backs move, more than other teams do. I think the coaches are doing a lot to protect an OL still shaky on pass pro.

Still, OMG at the holes the OL opened up last game. This could be the best OL we've had since the first half of '08.

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Aikmen was gushing over Monty a couple times yesterday. I thought he had a fine day.

The strange thing is the guy who struggled the most yesterday was the Silverback. He got beat several times.

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Shore up the right side a tad....some quality reserve. It's On!

I hope so. I love Moss. Not sure what his contract status is or anything. I agree 100 percent though - he is smart enough and talented enough - to make the full transition.

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[quote=Schneed10;967222]Kyle and Mike have done a terrific job putting together an offensive scheme that can take advantage of the team's talents. This line is not big, but they can move, so we have stretch zone plays that outflank the defense, and a decisive back who is very hard to bring down once he makes the one-cut.

Our WRs are sturdy and willing to block, they're sharp route-runners. And needless to say, RG3 is all that and a bag o' Doritos.

What's amazing is that going into this offseason (which we don't even need to think about yet), do we really need any offensive pieces? Anybody we pick up would seem to be luxury/depth. We can focus almost all of our resources on defense.

Future's so bright.[/quote]
RT. definite need.

[QUOTE=12thMan;967292]I'm not ready to say we're set at WR, we still need a consistent playmaker in the red zone. We've been getting by well with the talent we have, but I'd still like to see us address the position during off season.

As far as Hank, eh, he's been okay. Nothing to really write home about honestly.[/QUOTE]

With our secondary and RT along with depth at oline - we have been extremely fortunate with the health of the oline this year - i would like to see us roll with what we have and hope Hank can become that red zone target. Would rather address the secondary and RT. The caphit and lack of a first rounder are going to make it hard to get the redzone target too. Besides as long as we are putting up points like this - who cares.
Yes i agree were lacking that big TE-WR with a knack for finding the endzone from the redzone - but dont believe that piece is as pressing as the others.

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well, ware is going to make anyone look bad, that's just a recipe for a long day.

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[quote=FRPLG;967361]RT. definite need.[/quote]

I'm interested to see what Compton brings. Team seems to like him a lot. A few teams tried to sign him to their active roster this year, but Compton stayed here. We rewarded him with a nice bump in salary.

And of course...Jammal Brown!!!!!!

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The line has actually played better than I thought they would. We're still in desperate need of a RT. But having RG3 helps those guys a ton in the running game.

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[quote=punch it in;967362]With our secondary and RT along with depth at oline - we have been extremely fortunate with the health of the oline this year - i would like to see us roll with what we have and hope Hank can become that red zone target. Would rather address the secondary and RT. The caphit and lack of a first rounder are going to make it hard to get the redzone target too. Besides as long as we are putting up points like this - who cares.
Yes i agree were lacking that big TE-WR with a knack for finding the endzone from the redzone - but dont believe that piece is as pressing as the others.[/quote]

Don't we have that in Davis? I would say resigning him is a top priority going into the offseason.

Why are we talkin WRs in the Oline Unsung heroes thread?

Get us a quality RT and those guys are set. Polumbus is good in the run game but lacks the ability to handle top pass rushers.