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SKINSnCANES 03-03-2005 04:45 PM

Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
Pierce is gone, and my dad just said they said on the Doc Walker show that Barrow is gone.

So what do you guys think now. I think we could get a steal on Kendrall Bell. The guy is freaking amazing, he just has had the injury bug. So if we can get him for a good price then it would be awesome.

jdlea 03-03-2005 04:48 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
If they can get Kendrell Bell, they should definitely go after him. If he is healthy and seems like he could stay healthy they should go after him. He's better than Pierce.

PSUskinsfan11 03-03-2005 04:55 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
I would rather see us take Hartwell if we can. He is going to show people how good he is without Ray Ray by his side.

offiss 03-03-2005 04:57 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
I thought he signed with the G-men? I guess not, Bell can be the best MLB in the game if he stay's healthy, interesting that we would cut ties with Barrow the same day Pierce leaves? if we can get a reasonable contract with him perhap's incentive latent I would defiently take a chance on him, he has the potential to be that good no doubt!

VishsSkins 03-03-2005 05:17 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
Hold up. I think we should wait a bit before jumpimg to conclusions. It does not seem likely that we would release Barrow, our only other MLB, right after loosing Pierce to the Giants. That really makes no sense at all. We need to hear this from other sources before we start believing it.

jrocx69 03-03-2005 05:20 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
brandon barnes is our other middle linebacker on the roster. and coach williams loves him. brandon used to play wr in high school and is very quick to the ball. we might just see more of him this year and not on the practice squad. might be another linebacker cinderella story

AndySkinUK 03-03-2005 05:22 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
Id love to see Hartwell in a Skins uniform.

He is underrated cos he plays next to Lewis.

monk81 03-03-2005 05:23 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
This is BAD news............I guess Pierce didn't mean what he said about being a Redskin........ :doh:.......... I trust Coach Williams has a plan to replace him.......
IN COACH WILLIAMS I TRUST!

Defensewins 03-03-2005 05:29 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
Barrow is a great player but he has a degenerative condition with his knee. It is not going to get any better, only worse if he keeps playing.
If he plays, it will be with discomfort and swelling. His days are numbered.
Kendrell Bell played in a 3-4 system. Big jump to MLB of 4-3.

firstdown 03-03-2005 05:45 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
[QUOTE=monk81]This is BAD news............I guess Pierce didn't mean what he said about being a Redskin........ :doh:.......... I trust Coach Williams has a plan to replace him.......
IN COACH WILLIAMS I TRUST![/QUOTE]Yea, I would have liked to see him stay but from what I've heard the Giants gave him alot more than we were willing to give up. Can't blame a guy for making what he can when your one hit away from being retired.

shallyshal 03-03-2005 06:05 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
i want to see it official before i believe it... but...
bell has been injury prone for much of his career. he is also looking to sign a mega contract.
better to look at:
hartwell- almost made the raven's fans forget lewis when he was out
fields- similar to pierce. smart, mobile and tough
ruff- underrated player at san diego

as for barnes.. every time he was in, it seemed he got blown up taking on the blockers. better to give clifton smith, who is a true inside backer and weighs over 250, the chance at the position

if barrow is indeed gone, they already have the replacement in mind. he might even be onthe way to redskin park as we speak...

cpayne5 03-03-2005 06:06 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
[QUOTE=monk81]This is BAD news............I guess Pierce didn't mean what he said about being a Redskin........ :doh:.......... I trust Coach Williams has a plan to replace him.......
IN COACH WILLIAMS I TRUST![/QUOTE]
No, I think his actions, combined with what coach Gibbs has said, are 100% consistent to what has been said in the past.

He said that Washington was his first choice and he would give the Skins the chance to match any offer. Gibbs said they've gone as far as they can.

I don't really see where Pierce's actions are contradictory at all to his actions.

jdlea 03-03-2005 06:08 PM

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[QUOTE=Defensewins]Kendrell Bell played in a 3-4 system. Big jump to MLB of 4-3.[/QUOTE]

No different from the jump Ed Hartwell would have to make, he too was in the 3-4. Not to mention he played along side Ray Lewis.

downtown4life 03-03-2005 06:19 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
Hey Guys Im new here, Ive been on this site a lot, maybe 20 times a day at work. I just saw that David Patten was supposed to visit Redskins Park today, dont quite know how to do the links but it was in the washington times. If Patten signs and we can keep coles or get moss, I think we would be set, Patten definitely has better hands then Gardner

diehardskin2982 03-03-2005 06:29 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
[QUOTE=downtown4life]Hey Guys Im new here, Ive been on this site a lot, maybe 20 times a day at work. I just saw that David Patten was supposed to visit Redskins Park today, dont quite know how to do the links but it was in the washington times. If Patten signs and we can keep coles or get moss, I think we would be set, Patten definitely has better hands then Gardner[/QUOTE]

welcome to the forum. I like us getting Patten he moves the sticks and knows how to win.

I'm sorry to see barrow go, I hope he's just a system linebacker like Trotter and then comes back when he get's released. Bell would be an upgrade, Hartwell is looking for a pay day. what about shifting Washington to middle and signing Ian Gold or something... Just a thought

downtown4life 03-03-2005 07:18 PM

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What do youll think about going after Pollard, I think our defense it ok, make some minor changes, i think williams can put anyone in there at MLB if they keep blitzing from all over. I think its safe to go after Patten, hes a vet, team player, and can teach the young guys mostly jacobs and hopefully mike williams how to get better. With jansen coming back, samuels, thomas and now rabach Im thinking we will see more 64 yd runs from Portis like his first touch as a skin. Give ramsey patten and moss and williams and im telling you gibbs will let it fly, something everyone has been wanting

azskinsfan2 03-03-2005 07:28 PM

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I can't believe they let Pierce get away, and to an NFC East team no less. I know it will come back to haunt us. We give Samuels (who hasn't been that great the last two seasons) the highest signing bonus in Redskins history, but let Pierce go to the Giants!!! Pierce led the team in tackles last season and even according to Coach Williams, was calling the plays before Coach finished signaling them in. He will definitely be missed.
Why would we bring in another LB with a history of injuries when we brought in Barrow last year and he missed the entire season!!! We need someone that will be there all year. If they've actually cut Barrow, I'm sure they do have someone already in mind (I sure hope so!!!)
So much for buying my new Pierce jersey!!!!!!!!!

monk81 03-03-2005 07:45 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
[QUOTE=downtown4life]Hey Guys Im new here, Ive been on this site a lot, maybe 20 times a day at work. I just saw that David Patten was supposed to visit Redskins Park today, dont quite know how to do the links but it was in the washington times. If Patten signs and we can keep coles or get moss, I think we would be set, Patten definitely has better hands then Gardner[/QUOTE]

Hi Downtown and welcome...................

Gmanc711 03-03-2005 08:09 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
[QUOTE=monk81]This is BAD news............I guess Pierce didn't mean what he said about being a Redskin........ :doh:.......... I trust Coach Williams has a plan to replace him.......
IN COACH WILLIAMS I TRUST![/QUOTE]

In his defense, I have heard that he gave the Skins' an equal chance to match the Giants offer, and we declined. I think we declined in our best interests financially, and he took the pay-day he desrved. No hard feelings towards him for that, he was a man of his word and gave us a chance.

terps and skins 03-03-2005 08:24 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
if this rumor is true about barrow being cut...im not too sold on bell but hartwell would be very nice...whoever is cheaper

Gmanc711 03-03-2005 08:28 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
If we did cut Barrow (and CC you can correct me on this if I'm wrong) I was under the understanding that we save very little cap wise. I dont see why we wouldn keep him around to try out and see what happened. Given his track record; he could have been a very good player if he stayed around and got healthy. I wasent holding my breath for him to magically heal, but if we dont save alot of Cap, I think we should have just hung on to him to see what happens.

TheMalcolmConnection 03-03-2005 08:31 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
So IS Barrow gone?

MTK 03-03-2005 09:34 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut
 
I can't find anything to confirm it so I'll say no, he hasn't been cut

bigm29 03-03-2005 09:43 PM

Mike Barrow
 
Whats going on here. I heard we released him but im not sure. Someone fill me in.

Schneed10 03-03-2005 09:47 PM

Re: Mike Barrow
 
I'm pretty sure that was just speculation. I think they're planning on keeping him for now. Maybe they'd think about cutting him if they signed another MLB, but I can't see them cutting him without a replacement in hand.

BigSKINBauer 03-03-2005 09:47 PM

Re: Mike Barrow
 
i heard that too but didn't see anything online!! might this be a way to open room up for pierce or is that settled? i mean we did sign a cheaper wr who is by the way amazing and releasing barrow w/ no mlb i think we might be trying to open room!

SKINSnCANES 03-03-2005 10:23 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut rumor (merged)
 
mabye barrow is going to be a june 1st cut guy. Im not sure of his cap ramifications for cutting him. If we cut him, talk about dead cap space. Never even played a down

MTK 03-03-2005 10:40 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut rumor (merged)
 
It doesn't make much sense to cut him now unless they're convinced he's not going to ever make it back to 100%.

SKINSnCANES 03-03-2005 10:59 PM

Re: Pierce gone, Barrow Cut rumor (merged)
 
I hope he is healthy and starts for us. Hearing on the radio that he was out though made me wonder about his health. Mabye it was just a rumor, we cant find any info on him anywhere. If hes healthy then there was no reason to resign pierce for that type of money


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