Are you buying into the Shanaplan?
 

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2012/12/17/are-you-now-convinced-the-redskins-are-a-complete-team/]Are you now convinced the Redskins are a complete team?[/url]

^ After reading this I thought it might make for some interesting discussion here.

Funny how just 5 weeks ago we were discussing blowing the whole thing up... Now where do you stand?

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I had bought into the plan a lonnggg time ago and, although shaken, my moronic faith in it has never been broken. We are drafting lots of young guys. Some will stick, some will not, some may never be more than cheap solid back-ups before moving on.

We have a good young core of talented atheletes who would be starters on just about any team in the league (Davis, T. Williams, Morris, Kerrigan, Orakpo, Riley (?), Jackson) and we appear to be growing from within. Investment has been made in the O-line and the franchise appears to be more concerned with what you show on the field than how high-profile you are in the off-season. Rather than a collection of individuals, Shanny has been, and is continuing, to build a team.

It has taken three years but I believe the Stink of Cerrato is finally being washed away.

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I will admit to that I was completely wrong about Shanahan, I compared him to other coaches and he was not as successful, but he has proven me wrong. I like being wrong when it comes to the Redskins being good. But my friend said he will get our team rolling in the right direction and then leave it for the next coach (like his son) and that coach will be the one winning playoff games and possible superbowls. I believe that is true.

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I'm buying about 80% of it. The only part I don't buy is our pass rush depth and Secondary. Those still need to be fixed.

But so far with our recent drafts, I'm loving what I'm seeing. Alfred Morris, Richard Crawford, Aldrick Robinson, Royster. Those are some solid picks.

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I have and had bought into the [U]approach[/U]. How the approach is implemented is most important....that's where many teams miss. For years we screamed "we need a GM" but my response has always been.."we need a GOOD GM". Doing things the right way and doing the right things are different.

I wasn't convinced Shanny was doing the right things but I am becoming quite a believer. I have always thought he was doing things the right way...for the first time in a while around Redskins Park.

Sold! Lol

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[quote=CultBrennan59;976932][B]I'm buying about 80% of it.[/B] The only part I don't buy is our pass rush depth and Secondary. Those still need to be fixed.

But so far with our recent drafts, I'm loving what I'm seeing. Alfred Morris, Richard Crawford, Aldrick Robinson, Royster. Those are some solid picks.[/quote]

:laughing2:laughing2:doh:

gotta have a lil faith that will get better, we will always need improvement at at least one spot. No roster is perfect in the NFL

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[QUOTE=FRPLG;976942]I have and had bought into the [U]approach[/U]. How the approach is implemented is most important....that's where many teams miss. For years we screamed "we need a GM" but my response has always been.."we need a GOOD GM". Doing things the right way and doing the right things are different.

I wasn't convinced Shanny was doing the right things but I am becoming quite a believer. I have always thought he was doing things the right way...for the first time in a while around Redskins Park.[/QUOTE]

^^^ Yup. I like the "right way" / "right things" dichotomy. Cerrato did neither. I am with you, I think Shanny has, generally, been doing things the right way - investing in young depth, building the roster from within, etc. He has done some wrong things and I think we are one or two solid drafts from "fixing" the depth issues.

We need to get to the point where we are drafting less from a "Omigod so many holes! Draft for need! Draft for need!!" to "We have holes but we can afford to pick the best available more often than not."

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I like the youth movement personally.

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[quote=12thMan;976964]I like the youth movement personally.[/quote]

Youth movement? The youth plan is Kai Forbath. That's it

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lol. shannahan missed twice on QB's and once on haynesworth, which really hurt his credibility here.

the hard work on fixing the locker room and getting younger is starting to pay off, and this draft class (including forbath and minnifield) has been ridiculous. we need a #1 corner and maybe another safety (or meriweather and jackson to stay healthy/not suspended) and the D should be good again. we have a lot of starters on IR, and the pass rush poofed when they left.

that said, there's no alberts or donovans in the locker room acting like 6 year olds. everyone seems to be showing up and saying the right things... there's been no crazy spurrier/zorn/cerato type stories in years, so the mis-management and stupid drama may finally be gone.

hell, even haslett looks like he kept his job. he just needed to show people how to tackle, and to tell williams to play deeper.

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[quote=SmootSmack;976966]Youth movement? The youth plan is Kai Forbath. That's it[/quote]

Boom! Goated!

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I consider myself an early adopter of the Shanaplan. I said many times in this past offseason that my evaluation of him began in earnest this year because of the horrible roster he inherited and the stunted offseasons in 2010 and 2011 due to the labor situation. I willingly ignored the 'he's got a worse record than Zorn' and 'why did (fill in the team here) get better so quickly and we still suck' crowds with a view on the bigger picture.

Not gonna lie, around Halloween, things didn't look good. However, I've been very impressed with the team's performance in the past 6 weeks and think that we have an extremely bright future ahead of us with lots of talented young players and depth.

I think we're in middle of Phase 2 of the Shanaplan.. Phase One-Purge the old roster. Phase 2-Build a younger roster around a young franchise QB. Phase Three-Develop a sustainable winning program to pass down to Kyle. I anticipate a 3 year extension for Shanny this offseason and an extension for Kyle which includes a succession clause.

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SS fell for it..or played along. Either way, good times.

Nah, I think Shanny has made some adjustments of his own, in my opinion. It's been a purging of personalities, players buying in, and coaches getting on the same page. Winning goes a long ways to improving a team's image of itself.

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So y'all have gone 5-0 in the last five games.

The Detroit Lions also had a 5-game winning streak and went into the playoffs last year. Now they're one of the worst teams in the NFC. Just saying.

You gotta wait a little while before you conclude this is something other than a lucky streak. Again, just look at what happened to the Lions.

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[quote=CrazyCowboy80;976979]So y'all have gone 5-0 in the last five games.

The Detroit Lions also had a 5-game winning streak and went into the playoffs last year. Now they're one of the worst teams in the NFC. Just saying.

You gotta wait a little while before you conclude this is something other than a lucky streak. Again, just look at what happened to the Lions.[/quote]

Pot meet kettle

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[quote=12thMan;976975]SS fell for it..or played along. Either way, good times.

Nah, I think Shanny has made some adjustments of his own, in my opinion. It's been a purging of personalities, players buying in, and coaches getting on the same page. Winning goes a long ways to improving a team's image of itself.[/quote]

What are you talking about? This is my first time posting in this thread. I didn't fall for anything

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A great QB does that to a team...

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lol

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[quote=CrazyCowboy80;976979]So y'all have gone 5-0 in the last five games.

The Detroit Lions also had a 5-game winning streak and went into the playoffs last year. Now they're one of the worst teams in the NFC. Just saying.

You gotta wait a little while before you conclude this is something other than a lucky streak. Again, just look at what happened to the Lions.[/quote]

I think our next big step is making the right decisions during the offseason to make sure that we can sustain our success. I can think of teams like the Eagles and Jets, who both had previous success yet they made some terrible decisions in the offseason that led them to their current situation.

In terms of the Shanaplan, I think he had his set of bad decisions (McNabb, the whole Haynesworth fiasco), but Shanny has done very well this season despite the setbacks we've had (injuries/suspensions).

The challenge for this team from the top down will be to sustain this success and carry it into next season. For Shanny and BA, the challenge will be to find the right pieces to make our defense consistently successful, and to maintain the success of the offense.

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[quote=Mattyk;976921][url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2012/12/17/are-you-now-convinced-the-redskins-are-a-complete-team/]Are you now convinced the Redskins are a complete team?[/url]

^ After reading this I thought it might make for some interesting discussion here.

Funny how just 5 weeks ago we were discussing blowing the whole thing up... Now where do you stand?[/quote]

That article was worth mentioning. I think you could see some of it coming together a year ago. The Redskins were excellent on defense and even the offense with Grossman kept the Redskins in most of the games. I would have to say that the addition of play makers via the draft and free agency has greatly contributed in the Redskins playing better this season. Even at 3-6 this year, the Redskins were a very competitive team that were losing close games, just as last season. But you can credit the 5 game winning streak to the whole team playing with a tremendous sense of urgency, me thinks!

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[quote=CrazyCowboy80;976979]So y'all have gone 5-0 in the last five games.

The Detroit Lions also had a 5-game winning streak and went into the playoffs last year. Now they're one of the worst teams in the NFC. Just saying.

You gotta wait a little while before you conclude this is something other than a lucky streak. Again, just look at what happened to the Lions.[/quote]

Hows the Jerry Plan working out?

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[quote=12thMan;976986]lol[/quote]

Completely false :)

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Maybe we should canonize you SS.

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[quote=Chico23231;976999]Hows the Jerry Plan working out?[/quote]

I think we've done better than you in the past five to seven years, and we're on the verge of a playoff berth and NFC East championship, so I'd say just fine.

Seriously, how can y'all hate on Jerry Jones when you're stuck with Dan "Official Mattress of Six Flags" Snyder? Jerry cares about the team and about winning, Chainsaw Dan is just in it for the cash.

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[quote=CrazyCowboy80;977023]I think we've done better than you in the past five to seven years, and we're on the verge of a playoff berth and NFC East championship, so I'd say just fine.

Seriously, how can y'all hate on Jerry Jones when you're stuck with Dan "Official Mattress of Six Flags" Snyder? Jerry cares about the team and about winning, Chainsaw Dan is just in it for the cash.[/quote]

Yes, b/c Jerry "Sports Palace" Jones is all about the winning. He is soooo above the money thing.

As for the NFC East Championship ... see you in FedEx you delusional cowgirl rooting mofo. RGIII's motto is "pressure makes diamonds"; Romo's is "Is this important? I must be choking."

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[quote=CrazyCowboy80;977023]I think we've done better than you in the past five to seven years, and we're on the verge of a playoff berth and NFC East championship, so I'd say just fine.

Seriously, how can y'all hate on Jerry Jones when you're stuck with Dan "Official Mattress of Six Flags" Snyder? Jerry cares about the team and about winning, Chainsaw Dan is just in it for the cash.[/quote]

When it came to Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder. I have always said, the first one to step back away from the team and get some football people to run it... wins.

Took a while, but we are no longer being run by a hot headed fan with money who expects to get his way regardless of how rash or bad the decision is. You still are. Have fun with that. Jimmy Johnson isnt around to save JJ now.

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[quote=CrazyCowboy80;977023]I think we've done better than you in the past five to seven years, and we're on the verge of a playoff berth and NFC East championship, so I'd say just fine.

Seriously, how can y'all hate on Jerry Jones when you're stuck with Dan "Official Mattress of Six Flags" Snyder? Jerry cares about the team and about winning, Chainsaw Dan is just in it for the cash.[/quote]

you guys havent done shit. get the f*ck outta here

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Ignore the troll he's gone.

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awwwww .....
It was fun smacking around an ignorant Cowboy fan.

Ooops - ingorant Cowboy fan ... sorry for the redundancy.

Yeah, Dan doesn't care about winning. Not at all. That's why he haphazardly stroked 10 million dollar checks to everyone he thinks can help us win. Just because you're not good at winning doesn't mean you don't want to. We've sucked for years because we've had no players. You've sucked for years because you got no heart.

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I gave him 4 posts, they were all worthless trash talk.

Moving on.

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[quote=Mattyk;977035]I gave him 4 posts, they were all worthless trash talk.

Moving on.[/quote]

Party pooper. I was just about to give him the "Strong Post" seal of approval.

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[quote=CrazyCowboy80;976979]So y'all have gone 5-0 in the last five games.

The Detroit Lions also had a 5-game winning streak and went into the playoffs last year. Now they're one of the worst teams in the NFC. Just saying.

You gotta wait a little while before you conclude this is something other than a lucky streak. Again, just look at what happened to the Lions.[/quote]maybe the cowboys can get on a lucky streak and add to their impressive total of 1 playoff victory in the past, what, 15 seasons?

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[quote=CrazyCowboy80;977023]I think we've done better than you in the past five to seven years, and we're on the verge of a playoff berth and NFC East championship, so I'd say just fine.

Seriously, how can y'all hate on Jerry Jones when you're stuck with Dan "Official Mattress of Six Flags" Snyder? Jerry cares about the team and about winning, Chainsaw Dan is just in it for the cash.[/quote]

Wait? Jerry "Victoria's Secret In My Stadium" Jones isn't about the money? Jerry "Al Davis' clone son" Jones cares about the team? Hey, I was wondering, did he have to sign the same stay out of trouble pledge as Dez, or do his bodyguards go off the clock at 10pm?

Cowboys fans are just to hilarious!

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Geez oh man some of you are touchy! Four posts, however goofy, turned a thread on its head lol.

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i kept mine short and sweet.

off topic, i've been reading a blog called "goat's notes", is that you?

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[quote=The Goat;977044]Geez oh man some of you are touchy! Four posts, however goofy, turned a thread on its head lol.[/quote]

really wasnt goofy but just lame, factless based garbage. Nothing really funny. she was a douchebag

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[quote=Chico23231;977048]really wasnt goofy but just lame, factless based garbage. Nothing really funny. [B]she[/B] was a douchebag[/quote]


She?

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[quote=The Goat;977051]She?[/quote]

yeah, and a whiny one too.


Goat you buying into the Shanaplan?