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mredskins 01-02-2013 08:18 AM

Seahawks Redskins Rookie Showdown
 
Let's get this started!

I am nervous about this one.


Good read but not to calm your nerves.

[url=http://nfl.si.com/2013/01/01/break-it-down-wild-card-weekend-preview-seattles-secondary-vs-rgiii/]Break It Down, Wild-Card Weekend preview: Seattle’s secondary vs. RGIII | Audibles - SI.com[/url]

donofriose 01-02-2013 08:48 AM

Re: Seahawks Redskins Rookie Showdown
 
Seattle has a pretty good oline and Lynch, I think it will come down to whether or not we can stop their run consistently and force Wilson to win the game on the road. Our offense will be able to put up points, depending on how well our defense can get off the field.

CRedskinsRule 01-02-2013 08:54 AM

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Nothing in the stats or schedule info will calm your nerves either. These two teams parallel each other, with the exception that they have the cb's that we would die for.

In common opponent games (which there aren't many) They beat the Cowboys 27-7, beat @Carolina 16-12, and split with the Rams.

I do think you have to definitely just discount the Arizona and Buffalo games as aberrations, and even the SF game in Seattle was due in large part to the crowd, and the 49ers not being able to be coherent in the first half of the game.

That said, Seattle is a tough team, and they figured out a lot about road wins against Chicago and Buffalo, so they will come in confident. I don't expect a 200 yard game from Morris so this game will fall on Griffin, Paulsen and Cooley. Garcon and the WR's will still be depended on for their blocking, and stretching the field. But Seattle will be ready for our base pistol formation and any zone read plays.

As for our defense, I think they are up to the task, and the one good thing is that I think we can keep their TE's in check. I don't think the blitz heavy scheme that worked against Dallas will work against Wilson, so I hope Haslett did a lot of homework Monday and Tuesday.

Did I mention this is going to be a tough game? One big advantage is homefield, the west to east flight is the hardest to make, remember they lost to Miami in Miami right before there win streak started. I also think it's good that St. Louis played them tough, we can use that tape especially in prepping for them.

CRedskinsRule 01-02-2013 09:01 AM

Re: Seahawks Redskins Rookie Showdown
 
[quote=donofriose;982797]Seattle has a pretty good oline and Lynch, I think it will come down to whether or not we can stop their run consistently and force Wilson to win the game on the road. Our offense will be able to put up points, depending on how well our defense can get off the field.[/quote]

I don't expect our offense to put up a lot of points. Seattle just hasn't allowed it in any of their games. The most they have allowed is 28 points, but generally they have allowed in the teens. And they won't be unprepared for our offense, they held Carolina and SF to 12 and 13 points respectively. And they only gave up 23 to NE. We need to figure out how Miami and Detroit scored 24 and 28. I definitely think we need to be able to score 21 or more points to win the game.

Chico23231 01-02-2013 09:04 AM

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Skittles defense is vunarable to the run and they are not the same team at home vs the road. Haslett gonna have to mix it up on defense.

mredskins 01-02-2013 09:08 AM

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Being at Fedex is a huge advantage; mainly because it is not in SEA.

Chico23231 01-02-2013 09:10 AM

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my biggest fear with Seattle is Beast Mode

TheMalcolmConnection 01-02-2013 09:14 AM

Re: Seahawks Redskins Rookie Showdown
 
Their WRs don't scare me at all. If we shut down the run, I think we're good. No team has shown they can stop us offensively and until someone does, then I have no reason to believe we won't score on them. Wasn't Cleveland a top ten scoring defense? We all know how that worked out...

CRedskinsRule 01-02-2013 09:22 AM

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The best thing about our offense, which is awesome by the way, is that we can and do attack all the areas of the field. This game may very well be dominated by mid length passes, which means the TE's and Morgan/Moss should have big games and if they do, we will win.

Another point of similarity is turnovers. We are +17 (31 takeaway/14 giveaways), they are +14 (31/18).

These two teams are so similar it is amazing. And both young. Remember, we took Trent Williams, they took Okung. and both have built up in similar manners. I doubt this is the last playoff meeting between these two teams.

Chico23231 01-02-2013 09:36 AM

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Another thing in our favor, RG3 has another week to heal and get that knee better.

donofriose 01-02-2013 09:45 AM

Re: Seahawks Redskins Rookie Showdown
 
[quote=CRedskinsRule;982802]I don't expect our offense to put up a lot of points. Seattle just hasn't allowed it in any of their games. The most they have allowed is 28 points, but generally they have allowed in the teens. And they won't be unprepared for our offense, they held Carolina and SF to 12 and 13 points respectively. And they only gave up 23 to NE. We need to figure out how Miami and Detroit scored 24 and 28. I definitely think we need to be able to score 21 or more points to win the game.[/quote]

Exactly what I was thinking, around low 20's like 21 or 24. But that defense does play differently on the road, obviously the home field advantage has a lot to do with teams not being able to score on them.

TheMalcolmConnection 01-02-2013 09:46 AM

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[quote=Chico23231;982820]Another thing in our favor, RG3 has another week to heal and get that knee better.[/quote]

I wonder if we'll see the removal of the brace. I keep wondering how long he needs to wear that if he's past the healing time for that type of sprain.

JoeRedskin 01-02-2013 09:47 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;982808]The best thing about our offense, which is awesome by the way, is that we can and do attack all the areas of the field. This game may very well be dominated by mid length passes, which means the TE's and Morgan/Moss should have big games and if they do, we will win.

Another point of similarity is turnovers. We are +17 (31 takeaway/14 giveaways), they are +14 (31/18).

These two teams are so similar it is amazing. And both young. Remember, we took Trent Williams, they took Okung. and both have built up in similar manners. I doubt this is the last playoff meeting between these two teams.[/quote]

I was thinking that the Griffin/Wilson match-up could be the next Brady/Manning rivalry. Since we will be winning the division for the foreseeable future, they could meet up regularly if Seattle does the same.

CRedskinsRule 01-02-2013 09:56 AM

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[quote=JoeRedskin;982824]I was thinking that the Griffin/Wilson match-up could be the next Brady/Manning rivalry. Since we will be winning the division for the foreseeable future, they could meet up regularly if Seattle does the same.[/quote]

NFC East division champs
5-1 in the division
STILL Awesome :):food-smil:headbange

mredskins 01-02-2013 10:00 AM

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I think a real X Factor here is MS. I am hoping his playoff experience trumps Pete Carroll.

skinsfaninok 01-02-2013 10:07 AM

Seattle is really similar to us But they have more talent overall IMO. I still think we win at home, Griffin will have a great first playoff game and we'll force Wilson into a couple ints

firstdown 01-02-2013 10:07 AM

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I think the Seahacks trip up and we roll right over them.

CRedskinsRule 01-02-2013 10:20 AM

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[quote=mredskins;982827]I think a real X Factor here is MS. I am hoping his playoff experience trumps Pete Carroll.[/quote]

Pete Carroll is [URL="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/CarrPe0.htm"]0-3 [/URL](2 losses with the Patriots, 1 with the Seahawks) in NFL away playoff games. I would really love the Skins to trounce him.

Shanahan has obviously won a few home games along the way.

SFREDSKIN 01-02-2013 10:34 AM

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How will Wilson handle the Fedex crowd noise? Should be interesting.

JoeRedskin 01-02-2013 10:35 AM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;982833]Pete Carroll is [URL="http://www.pro-football-reference.com/coaches/CarrPe0.htm"]0-3 [/URL](2 losses with the Patriots, 1 with the Seahawks) in NFL away playoff games. I would really love the Skins to trounce him.

[B]Shanahan has obviously won a few home games along the way[/B].[/quote]

Well, he only won because he had a future HOF quarterback and had managed to find a premier running back in the late rounds of the draft.

Oh, wait ...

MTK 01-02-2013 10:38 AM

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I expect a really tight game. Both teams are pretty evenly matched. I think being at home will be a big advantage. I only wish this was a 1:00 game so it would be starting at 10am their time.

Chico23231 01-02-2013 10:43 AM

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I really like the odds makers picking against us. Much rather have the Seahawks over San Fran.

Lotus 01-02-2013 10:44 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;982841]I expect a really tight game. Both teams are pretty evenly matched. I think being at home will be a big advantage. I only wish this was a 1:00 game so it would be starting at 10am their time.[/quote]

I agree with everything that you said. Methinks that the Hawks run defense is not as tough on the road, opening the door for Alfmo to make a big difference.

skinsfan69 01-02-2013 10:58 AM

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We're going to have to get more than 100 yards in the passing game. No way do we run wild like we did last week. I expect another close one but these guys are beatable when they have to go on the road. If it was at Quest then we probably lose.

CRedskinsRule 01-02-2013 11:09 AM

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The stats of Wilson and Griffin are amazingly similar. They both threw 393 passes, Griffin obviously in one less game:

plyr----cmp ----- att -----cmp%-----yards-----TD-----TD%-----INT-----INT%
RW ----252 ----- 393 ----- 64.1 ----- 3118----- 26----- 6.6----- 10-----2.5
RG3----258 ----- 393 ----- 65.6 ----- 3200 ----- 20 ----- 5.1-----5---- 1.3


plyr-----YPA-----YPC-----YPGm-----PRating---Sacks--4thQtrComebacks-GWinning Drives
RW-------8.1---- 12.4----- 194.9----- 100.0----- 33--------- 3----------- 4
RG3-----8.6----- 12.4----- 213.3----- 102.4----- 30--------- 3----------- 2

firstdown 01-02-2013 11:10 AM

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I went back and looked over their records and they have a tough time on the road in smaller stadiums that had around 60,000 in attendance. Wait until they come here and have 90,000 fans rocking the house.

scowan 01-02-2013 11:28 AM

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I worry about Russell Wilson scrambling when the Redskins can't keep him contained in the pocket. I figure Marshawn will get his 100 yards and a score, but if the Redskins can force some turnovers and limit their own they can win. Winning the turnover battle has been the key to the Redskins victories as of late. Will pressuring Wilson lead him to making mistakes and turning it over? No, I think it will lead to him scrambling for yards.

CultBrennan59 01-02-2013 11:33 AM

Re: Seahawks Redskins Rookie Showdown
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;982807]Their WRs don't scare me at all. If we shut down the run, I think we're good. No team has shown they can stop us offensively and until someone does, then I have no reason to believe we won't score on them. Wasn't Cleveland a top ten scoring defense? We all know how that worked out...[/quote]

1) Yes their WRs don't scare me; but Golden Tate can jump and play a lot bigger than he actually is, and and Doug Baldwin can make some occassional plays, depends if he wants to show up this weekend. Sidney Rice was a top 10 WR with Favre, maybe he can catch on with Russell for the playoffs. But again I think we should be fine in the pass defense department.

2) Yes if we shut down the run we will win. But thats what Seattle is good at and thats easier said than done. You know how many teams have said "If we shut down Tom Brady, we'll win". Like I said easier said than done.

3) Yes the Steelers, Panthers, Bengals and Rams showed us how to beat our offense. (Hint Collapse the ends onto the QB).

4) No cleveland wasn't a top 10 scoring defense.

I think it really comes to this: If the Redskins can get pressure and CONTAIN Russell Wilson, then we will win, but he is really slippery out of the pocket and moves like a video game. It'll be tough, real tough. I would spy Wilson with Riley and use more fast pass rushers like Chris Wilson. Also do lots of CB blitzes.

12thMan 01-02-2013 11:42 AM

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[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;982823]I wonder if we'll see the removal of the brace. I keep wondering how long he needs to wear that if he's past the healing time for that type of sprain.[/quote]

Brian Mitchell thinks the brace is causing much of the immobility and that he should remove it.

iRepDMV 01-02-2013 11:48 AM

Re: Seahawks Redskins Rookie Showdown
 
[quote=TheMalcolmConnection;982807]Their WRs don't scare me at all. If we shut down the run, I think we're good. [B]No team has shown they can stop us offensively and until someone does, then I have no reason to believe we won't score on them.[/B] Wasn't Cleveland a top ten scoring defense? We all know how that worked out...[/quote]

That's exactly how i feel!

SmootSmack 01-02-2013 12:05 PM

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[quote=12thMan;982865]Brian Mitchell thinks the brace is causing much of the immobility and that he should remove it.[/quote]

From what I heard last night, he's getting a new, less bulky brace but will still have on this weekend

I'm a bit concerned about Kory L. I think LeRibeus may end up being the better OL, though I'm not sure that will be this weekend.

WaldSkins 01-02-2013 12:08 PM

Re: Seahawks Redskins Rookie Showdown
 
I was more worried about Dallas due to there impressive pass offense and our weak secondary

MTK 01-02-2013 12:11 PM

Re: Seahawks Redskins Rookie Showdown
 
[quote=SmootSmack;982873]From what I heard last night, he's getting a new, less bulky brace but will still have on this weekend

I'm a bit concerned about Kory L. I think LeRibeus may end up being the better OL, though I'm not sure that will be this weekend.[/quote]

Nice to see LeRibeus step in last week and we didn't miss a beat. He played 21 snaps? I didn't even notice he was in there for that long. Impressive.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/wp/2013/01/01/josh-leribeus-draws-praise-for-strong-relief-effort-for-redskins/]Josh LeRibeus draws praise for strong relief effort for Redskins[/url]

mredskins 01-02-2013 12:11 PM

Re: Seahawks Redskins Rookie Showdown
 
To be fair Pitt did a pretty good job of stopping us.

MTK 01-02-2013 12:12 PM

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[quote=mredskins;982879]To be fair Pitt did a pretty good job of stopping us.[/quote]

And you could say we did a good job at stopping ourselves with all the drops that day.

WaldSkins 01-02-2013 12:17 PM

Re: Seahawks Redskins Rookie Showdown
 
[quote=firstdown;982852]I went back and looked over their records and they have a tough time on the road in smaller stadiums that had around 60,000 in attendance. Wait until they come here and have 90,000 fans rocking the house.[/quote]

Was anyone at the cowboys game? On TV it didn't seem like it was that loud

skinsfan69 01-02-2013 12:22 PM

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[quote=mredskins;982879]To be fair Pitt did a pretty good job of stopping us.[/quote]

I think the offense is a better offense now than it was then.

MTK 01-02-2013 12:28 PM

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[quote=WaldSkins;982882]Was anyone at the cowboys game? On TV it didn't seem like it was that loud[/quote]

Turn up your TV. ;)

Seemed plenty loud to me.

Alvin Walton 01-02-2013 12:29 PM

Re: Seahawks Redskins Rookie Showdown
 
Marshawn Lynch scares me as much as Wilson.
That dude eats babies....

Ruhskins 01-02-2013 12:35 PM

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[quote=WaldSkins;982875]I was more worried about Dallas due to there impressive pass offense and our weak secondary[/quote]

Dallas' pass rush was non-existent. Ware was performing at easily 50%. I think the Seahawks D will be a much bigger challenge than Dallas.


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