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jgalecpa 01-03-2013 11:02 AM

Sean Taylor's Killer Apologizes in Letter to Washington Times
 
Don't know if I am allowed to post a link:

[url=http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2013-01-02/man-charged-in-sean-taylors-murder-writes-apology-to-newspaper?icid=maing-grid10%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D252192]Man charged in Sean Taylor's murder writes apology to newspaper - NFL - Sporting News[/url]

[B]Man charged in Sean Taylor's murder writes apology to newspaper[/B]

The strange case of the men charged in the 2007 slaying of Washington Redskins free safety Sean Taylor took another strange twist Wednesday when one of the accused offered an apology in his first public comments.

Venjah Hunte, 25, responded to inquiries from The Washington Times with a two-and-a-half page hand-written letter.



The Times quotes Hunte as writing, "To begin I would like to send my deepest apology to the family of Sean Taylor. I know an apology won't bring him back, but I hope one day they could find it in their hearts to forgive me."

Hunte resides in Miami's Metro West Detention Center, according to the newspaper.

Taylor was killed on Nov. 27, 2007, in what is believed to be a robbery gone wrong. He was 24 when he died of gunshot wounds a day earlier. Taylor was home recovering from football injuries when intruders entered his residence.

Hunte is serving a 29-year sentence under a plea bargain he tried to back out of in 2008. Four other men are awaiting trial, which is scheduled for April 15 after numerous delays.

"My thought or intentions weren't to hurt him or noone [sic] else, let alone murder, it was something I thought would never happen," Hunte wrote in the letter to The Times. "Even though I didn't pull the trigger I still have to take responsibility for my actions. Period."

Hunte told the newspaper he lives in solitary confinement 23 hours a day because of the case's high profile.

Taylor was from Miami and played college football for the University of Miami.

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RedskinRat 01-03-2013 11:26 AM

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It's a shame there isn't a hell, I hope he is miserable until he dies.

jgalecpa 01-03-2013 12:12 PM

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Saying "sorry" sometimes does not make things ok.

Hog1 01-03-2013 12:20 PM

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It does not carry much meaning for me..........sorry

Lotus 01-03-2013 12:21 PM

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I don't think that he was trying to make everything "ok" with his apology. His words show that. It seems that he is expressing true remorse and repentance, which is something we can all appreciate. His attitude is much nobler than being unrepentant.

While I deeply abhor what he did and I think that no apology can make it "ok," we should respect the fact that he is publicly remorseful.

Alvin Walton 01-03-2013 12:26 PM

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efff him.
I hope he dies in a fire.

ashvirtually 01-03-2013 12:35 PM

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Have Taylor's peoples forgiven him? Because it seems to me that the only way anyone else should try and respect or appreciate the remorse from this dude is if they do so and implore others to do the same.

Otherwise, screw this guy and his regret. Human nature works both ways.

Hog1 01-03-2013 01:39 PM

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[quote=Lotus;983246]I don't think that he was trying to make everything "ok" with his apology. His words show that. It seems that [B]he is expressing true remorse and repentance, which is something we can all appreciate[/B]. His attitude is much nobler than being unrepentant.

While I deeply abhor what he did and I think that no apology can make it "ok," [B]we should respect the fact that he is publicly remorseful[/B].[/quote]

Words are just that......perhaps he is genuinely remorseful, perhaps he is greasing the skids for an early parole. Who can tell? I imagine there are many talented....Sales people in the prison system......

Lotus 01-03-2013 01:44 PM

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[quote=Hog1;983301]Words are just that......perhaps he is genuinely remorseful, perhaps he is greasing the skids for an early parole. Who can tell? I imagine there are many talented....Sales people in the prison system......[/quote]

Ok, fair enough. None of us are in a position to judge his sincerity as either good or ill. Perhaps the fact that he was asked for a short statement and responded with a long letter is a testament to his sincerity but neither you nor I can know for sure.

Nonetheless, his response still beats a remorseless and unrepentant one.

Hog1 01-03-2013 01:50 PM

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FWIW, I hope you are correct.....

CultBrennan59 01-03-2013 01:59 PM

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He can apologize all he wants; he killed someone and that someone was a hell of a football and a father. Us fans can never have him back, his kid will never get to know him. He made the decision to commit a stupid crime of robbing him and shooting him. I see it as a life for a life. He still deserves the death penalty (if theres no death penalty in the state, then life in prison)

skinsfan69 01-03-2013 02:54 PM

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Hunte did not pull the trigger so he did not actually kill ST. He wasn't even inside the home. He probably didn't go out that night thinking that someone was going to be murdered. But that's the problem with these wanna be gang bangers, they don't think about the ramifications if someone is hurt or killed when a bunch of them go out together and do a crime. He'll get out eventually, when he's around 50 years old or so.

KLHJ2 01-03-2013 06:27 PM

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Forgiveness is not for the person who does the wrongdoing it is for those who have been wronged. To forgive is to free yourself from the bondage of your anger.

See Ephesians 4: 26-32

As far as Venja Hunte is concerned. His response seemed pretty contrite. Most guilty criminals do not accept responsibility for their own actions.

mooby 01-03-2013 06:35 PM

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[quote=KLHJ2;983456]Forgiveness is not for the person who does the wrongdoing it is for those who have been wronged. To forgive is to free yourself from the bondage of your anger.

See Ephesians 4: 26-32

As far as Venja Hunte is concerned. His response seemed pretty contrite. Most guilty criminals do not accept responsibility for their own actions.[/quote]

I agree with KLHJ2 and Lotus on this one. I do not know whether he is honestly contrite or not, but it's not for me to judge. If the people that knew ST are willing to forgive him so am I. All I lost is what ST brought to the field, they lost a son, father, friend, brother, etc. For me, this is a step in the right direction. It's good to see him accept responsibility for his actions even though he wasn't in the home and didn't pull the trigger. Now if the other 4 will do the same...

S/N: KLHJ2, I liked calling you Angry a lot more. I'm going to stick with that, unless you don't want me to.

KLHJ2 01-03-2013 06:43 PM

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[quote=mooby;983462]I agree with KLHJ2 and Lotus on this one. I do not know whether he is honestly contrite or not, but it's not for me to judge. If the people that knew ST are willing to forgive him so am I. All I lost is what ST brought to the field, they lost a son, father, friend, brother, etc. For me, this is a step in the right direction. It's good to see him accept responsibility for his actions even though he wasn't in the home and didn't pull the trigger. Now if the other 4 will do the same...

S/N: KLHJ2, I liked calling you Angry a lot more. I'm going to stick with that, unless you don't want me to.[/quote]

I changed my name for a reason. Proverbs 29:11 "A fool gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man keeps himself under control"

In no way am I claiming to be wise, but why confirm being a fool before I even say anything?

RedskinRat 01-03-2013 06:52 PM

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I think you're confirming enough with this sig:

[I]Proverbs 9:10 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight."[/I]

What manner of benign deity would want to instill fear? How much knowledge of your imaginary friend constitutes insight?

:lol:

mooby 01-03-2013 06:57 PM

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[quote=KLHJ2;983467]I changed my name for a reason. Proverbs 29:11 "A fool gives full vent to his anger, but a wise man keeps himself under control"

In no way am I claiming to be wise, but why confirm being a fool before I even say anything?[/quote]

Good point, but I feel only someone new would judge someone by his name and not the content of his posts. That's just my opinion anyways. If you don't mind me asking, what does KLHJ2 mean? Just curious.

@Redskinrat: Do we really gotta get all religious up in here? Couldn't you just have pm'd him? Come on man.

NC_Skins 01-03-2013 06:57 PM

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[IMG]http://performinsider.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Stephen-Colbert-Popcorn.gif[/IMG]

44ever 01-03-2013 07:01 PM

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[quote=RedskinRat;983470]I think you're confirming enough with this sig:

[I]Proverbs 9:10 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight."[/I]

What manner of benign deity would want to instill fear? How much knowledge of your imaginary friend constitutes insight?

:lol:[/quote]

The One who wants to save people from Hell...

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.

mooby 01-03-2013 07:02 PM

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[quote=44ever;983477]The One who wants to save people from Hell...

Matthew 10:28 And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.[/quote]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

44ever 01-03-2013 07:04 PM

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[quote=mooby;983478]Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.[/quote]

Just answering his question.

NC_Skins 01-03-2013 07:05 PM

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RedskinRat 01-03-2013 07:06 PM

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[quote=mooby;983475]Good point, but I feel only someone new would judge someone by his name and not the content of his posts. That's just my opinion anyways. If you don't mind me asking, what does KLHJ2 mean? Just curious.

@Redskinrat: Do we really gotta get all religious up in here? Couldn't you just have pm'd him? Come on man.[/quote]

I'm not the one proselytizing, was I?

I get pushed, I push back. Each to their own.

los panda 01-03-2013 07:08 PM

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praise be

NC_Skins 01-03-2013 07:10 PM

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[YT]76RrdwElnTU[/YT]

los panda 01-03-2013 07:13 PM

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[YT]y8AWFf7EAc4[/YT]

mooby 01-03-2013 07:14 PM

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[quote=RedskinRat;983482]I'm not the one proselytizing, was I?

I get pushed, I push back. Each to their own.[/quote]

Yeah but he didn't single you out, he was just stating his reasoning. If religion isn't being pushed onto someone it's best just to ignore it.

ashvirtually 01-03-2013 07:15 PM

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[quote=mooby;983462]If the people that knew ST are willing to forgive him so am I.[/quote]Have they done so? I honestly don't know, so I'm asking in good faith.

If they have, then yes, I agree, everyone else should try to forgive, too.

But if they haven't, then screw him.

los panda 01-03-2013 07:19 PM

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i'm scared

NC_Skins 01-03-2013 07:19 PM

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[quote=mooby;983488]Yeah but he didn't single you out, he was just stating his reasoning. If religion isn't being pushed onto someone it's best just to ignore it.[/quote]

To be fair, scripture were quoted two times in this thread. No need for it to even be brought up. This is about ST's killers and his apology to ST's family. The topic should stay as such.


Let's just move on. I was hoping it would stop. I personally think it's sad that the justice system has taken so long in this ST case.

RedskinRat 01-03-2013 07:20 PM

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[quote=mooby;983488]If religion isn't being pushed onto someone it's best just to ignore it.[/quote]

Your path, not mine.

VTSkins1961 01-03-2013 07:25 PM

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I two words for all of them.... the chair.

DynamiteRave 01-03-2013 07:31 PM

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[quote=VTSkins1961;983498]I two words for all of them.... the chair.[/quote]

You can't be all willy nilly with the death penalty.

(And before you jump and call me a bleeding heart liberal (I am), I don't feel one way or another about the death penalty. It'd be no skin off my back if they kept it or made it illegal)

But if you're going to throw someone in the chair. Intent means a lot. Didn't these guys get spooked and shot ST? That's no reason to fry someone.

Now if they came in with the intention of shooting him, that's totally different.

It's f'ed up and I have no problem with them rotting in prison for the majority of their life but... Come on.

mooby 01-03-2013 08:05 PM

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[quote=RedskinRat;983495]Your path, not mine.[/quote]

Fair enough.

I agree with NC, it's pretty pathetic it's taking this long to go to trial. I mean how many more delay tactics is the defense going to get away with?

KLHJ2 01-03-2013 08:39 PM

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[quote=mooby;983475]Good point, but I feel only someone new would judge someone by his name and not the content of his posts. That's just my opinion anyways. If you don't mind me asking, what does KLHJ2 mean? Just curious.

@Redskinrat: Do we really gotta get all religious up in here? Couldn't you just have pm'd him? Come on man.[/quote]

It is my initials followed by the number two. It provides both truth and anonymity. The 2 is only because KLHJ was already taken when I signed up for my origin account for EA games. I like to keep things uniform.


BTW Redskinrat's comments do not offend me. Having faith is a gift of His grace so that no one can boast. I am only being rejected because they rejected Him first. I was once a doubter and a mocker too. I forgive Redskinrat just as He has forgiven me.


I didn't mean to turn this into a "Religious Thread". We were asked of our opinions on this matter which usually line up with our own ideologies and philosophies. Mine just so happen to align with what the Bible teaches. The use of the quoting of scripture is no different than providing a source for information that backs up our statements. We do this in every thread to support our ideas by using various references. I do not always like the sources that people use to back their arguments (especially Wikipedia), but I am not going to get upset because they used them.

BigHairedAristocrat 01-03-2013 08:43 PM

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[quote=RedskinRat;983470]I think you're confirming enough with this sig:

[I]Proverbs 9:10 "The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom, and the knowledge of the Holy One is insight."[/I]

What manner of benign deity would want to instill fear? How much knowledge of your imaginary friend constitutes insight?

:lol:[/quote]

1. The bible, which he bases his beliefs on, does not teach that god is benign

2. The type of fear referenced in that scripture is a fear of displeasing God, similar to how, if you love your wife or child, you have a fear of doing anything to hurt them or cause them emotional pain. It's a healthy fear, not a terrifying fear.

3. Consider for a moment that he does not believe god is imaginary. He believes he is real, created everything, created us, and knows us better than we know ourselves. Knowing about him would tell you a lot. If you are an atheist, you can look at the world around you and marvel at its beauty. If you believe a deity created everything, then you learn about the qualities of the creator by observing his creation - the same way you can learn about an artist from observing their work.

4.its makes you look bad to mock someone else's beliefs when you don't know a thing about them. It would be no different than him saying youre dumb for believing in evolution because it teaches that a monkey evolved into a human overnight when that's not what evolution teaches.



Back on topic - a lot of people seem to be of the mindset that this individual should be killed or suffer the rest of his life for being present when one of his friends murdered Sean Taylor. He didn't pull the trigger. This man was a criminal and participated in a robbery that went horribly wrong. He deserves the punishment he is receiving. He's not making excuses - he's showing remorse and trying to make whatever amends he can.

i am baffled at how people refuse to show him compassion, while we're easy to forgive a cowboys player who chose to drink and drive and killed (essentially pulling the trigger) his friend. Both men knowingly broke the law. Both knowingly engaged in activities that put other people's lives in danger. Neither man intended to harm another person. So why do we rush to forgive one man yet wish evil on the other?

There are two purposes for the prison system - to protect society and to reform criminals. This man seems to be on the right path towards being reformed. When he's eventually released from prison, he will hopefully be fully reformed. What more do we want from him?

44ever 01-03-2013 08:43 PM

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[quote=mooby;983512]Fair enough.

I agree with NC, it's pretty pathetic it's [B]taking this long to go to trial[/B]. I mean how many more [B]delay tactics is the defense going to get away with[/B]?[/quote]

Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, therefore the heart of men is fully set in them to do evil.

Lotus 01-03-2013 09:08 PM

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I understand that it is commonplace for lawyers to engage in various delay tactics.

Nonetheless sadly there is nothing "speedy" about these "fair and speedy" trials. You'd think we were in India, where justice moves at the speed of molasses flowing uphill.

Darrell_Green_28 01-04-2013 02:03 AM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;983500]You can't be all willy nilly with the death penalty.

(And before you jump and call me a bleeding heart liberal (I am), I don't feel one way or another about the death penalty. It'd be no skin off my back if they kept it or made it illegal)

But if you're going to throw someone in the chair. Intent means a lot. Didn't these guys get spooked and shot ST? That's no reason to fry someone.

Now if they came in with the intention of shooting him, that's totally different.

It's f'ed up and I have no problem with them rotting in prison for the majority of their life but... Come on.[/quote]

If no intention to shoot, then why bring a gun?

VegasSkinsFan 01-04-2013 05:23 AM

[QUOTE=Darrell_Green_28;983559]If no intention to shoot, then why bring a gun?[/QUOTE]

Have to agree here. Even with no intent if I walked into an elementary school right now with a gun I would most likely be arrested. If a person pulls a gun, there is intent to inflict harm with it, regardless of if its physical or mental harm.


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