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I do not know if there was already a thread about this but the field yesterday was horrible. Three players injured their knees badly, including a kicker. I do think the field had something to do with it, and Joe Buck called it "Dirt with paint over it." - or something along those lines. I thought it was atrocious how bad the field looked for a playoff game with that much time to prepare.

Pete Carrol had this to say about the field:

“It was horrible,” Carroll told Brock & Salk of ESPN 710. “It’s a horrible field. It’s as bad as a field can get for being dry. And it’s too bad, it’s really too bad. And we deserve better. . . . We deserve better. . . . It just was worn out. And there was a lot of slipping and all that kind of stuff.”

“We should just expect to see a better field at that time of year,” Carroll said.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/07/pete-carroll-says-fedex-field-was-horrible/]Pete Carroll says FedEx Field was “horrible” | ProFootballTalk[/url]

[url=http://deadspin.com/5973748/the-redskins-were-done-in-by-their-own-crappy-field]The Redskins Were Done In By Their Own "Crappy" Field[/url]

Just searching for some opinions on what happened with the field yesterday and why an NFL team provided such a poor surface to play on. There are hundreds of high schools with better surfaces than that. You can just look around Northern Virginia. What are some thoughts to possible movements since the stadium is 20 years old and obviously the field needs major improvements.

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Just put down field turf and be done with it.

I swear I remember the opening game there in '97 against the Cardinals and huge divots were coming up all over. It's always been a problem.

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the redskins were the only team that had to play on the field, unfair :stop:

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[quote=los panda;985789]the redskins were the only team that had to play on the field, unfair :stop:[/quote]

I think the injuries effected them a lot as well. Losing Clemons is huge for their Dline and having an injured kicker is never good thing for playoff games.

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[quote=Mattyk;985788]Just put down field turf and be done with it.

I swear I remember the opening game there in '97 against the Cardinals and huge divots were coming up all over. It's always been a problem.[/quote]

It would be nice to have the turf just to enhance the speed of the team. No reason not to really.

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don't a lot of players blame field turf for leg injuries?

the grass is always greener...

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[quote=los panda;985799]don't a lot of players blame field turf for leg injuries?

the grass is always greener...[/quote]

It's not perfect either, but it's got to be better than what we've got, which is one of the worst fields in the league.

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[quote=los panda;985799]don't a lot of players blame field turf for leg injuries?

the grass is always greener...[/quote]

I do not have that much of a problem with grass. But I do have a problem with the poor condition of the field yesterday.

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I have a problem with a $1.6 billion franchise having a field that bad. Hire the greens keeper from Augusta National for goodness sake.

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Isn't the field in Pittsburgh worst? Also, how many years did the turf in the old Meadowland stadium tore up knees before it was fixed?

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i can dig it, improve what we have, don't switch to artificial.

hogs in the mud, not on the carpet.

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[quote=Ruhskins;985811]Isn't the field in Pittsburgh worst? Also, how many years did the turf in the old Meadowland stadium tore up knees before it was fixed?[/quote]

Pitt and Chicago are both bad. Not sure ours is much better really.

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[quote=Mattyk;985819]Pitt and Chicago are both bad. Not sure ours is much better really.[/quote]

Not saying that it is worst, I just get the sense that Pittsburgh always says that they won't change anything.

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[quote=donofriose;985782]I do not know if there was already a thread about this but the field yesterday was horrible. Three players injured their knees badly, including a kicker. I do think the field had something to do with it, and Joe Buck called it "Dirt with paint over it." - or something along those lines. I thought it was atrocious how bad the field looked for a playoff game with that much time to prepare.

Pete Carrol had this to say about the field:

“It was horrible,” Carroll told Brock & Salk of ESPN 710. “It’s a horrible field. It’s as bad as a field can get for being dry. And it’s too bad, it’s really too bad. And we deserve better. . . . We deserve better. . . . It just was worn out. And there was a lot of slipping and all that kind of stuff.”

“We should just expect to see a better field at that time of year,” Carroll said.

[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/01/07/pete-carroll-says-fedex-field-was-horrible/]Pete Carroll says FedEx Field was “horrible” | ProFootballTalk[/url]

[url=http://deadspin.com/5973748/the-redskins-were-done-in-by-their-own-crappy-field]The Redskins Were Done In By Their Own "Crappy" Field[/url]

[B]Just searching for some opinions on what happened with the field yesterday and why an NFL team provided such a poor surface to play on.[/B] There are hundreds of high schools with better surfaces than that. You can just look around Northern Virginia. What are some thoughts to possible movements since the stadium is 20 years old and obviously the field needs major improvements.[/quote]

donofriose, it really comes down the venues schedule of events and the winter weather If the grass is covered up or trampled on for concerts, monster truck events, motocross events, etc. then add winter weather and other college and HS football and soccer and the grass can not recover.

Here in Houston at Reliant Stadium (home of the Texans) they have a removable grass field that gets moved out to the parking lot during events that do not need the grass field. Despite all of that and a much milder winter they still ended up having to buy an artificial grass floor for all of the college and High school football and soccer. So now only the Texans play on the grass and everyone else will play on the artificial surface. but that take a ton of money and labor so most teams wont do it. Bottom line it is all about Money Money Money.
But ultimately football wrecks havoc on grass fields in the winter climate.

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[quote=Ruhskins;985811]Isn't the field in Pittsburgh worst? Also, how many years did the turf in the old Meadowland stadium tore up knees before it was fixed?[/quote]

It did'nt, it's the "New Meadowlands " field that is tearing up knees.

The stadium that was bad was the Vet in Philly, they would use duct tape.

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The big question is why? Weather here has been good, plenty of time to recover the field. So any thoughts on why it is so bad?

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look like painted dirt yesterday, a damn embarrassment imo

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Does anyone know whether there have been events held at Fedex recently?

Seahawks fan here, I kind of lurked these forums before the game to see what you guys were saying. I wasn't planning on popping in, until I heard the news that RG3 might miss all of next season with a torn ACL and PCL. That would really be too bad, the guy impressed me yesterday. Really gutsy performance. Hopefully you guys do something about that field. We've played in Chicago 4 times in the past 3 seasons, once in the playoffs. The field yesterday (according to Pete Carroll) was worse than Soldier Field was in any of those games. Its a shame that that field may have cost one of the great young stars in football an entire season, not to mention it cost us our best pass rusher at least for the rest of the post season.

Anyways, that was a good game yesterday. You guys played us tough, and with how bad our defense looked out of the gates a healthy RG3 would have more than likely changed the outcome of the game.

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[quote=Legion of Boom;985871]Seahawks fan here, I kind of lurked these forums before the game to see what you guys were saying. I wasn't planning on popping in, until I heard the news that RG3 might miss all of next season with a torn ACL and PCL. That would really be too bad, the guy impressed me yesterday. Really gutsy performance. Hopefully you guys do something about that field. We've played in Chicago 4 times in the past 3 seasons, once in the playoffs. The field yesterday (according to Pete Carroll) was worse than Soldier Field was in any of those games. Its a shame that that field may have cost one of the great young stars in football an entire season, not to mention it cost us our best pass rusher at least for the rest of the post season.

Anyways, that was a good game yesterday. You guys played us tough, and with how bad our defense looked out of the gates a healthy RG3 would have more than likely changed the outcome of the game.[/quote]

How do you think you guys will do against the Falcons? If I am a Seattle fan, I would be a bit concerned that we only beat a one-legged QB team by 10 points and didn't take the lead until 7 mins left in the game.

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In a sense, i think the horrible field gives us a competitive advantage because we're used to it and our opponents arent. On the negative side, a healthy RGIII is ridiculously fast and having the best playing surface possible would only add to it.

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Football definitely wreaks havoc on fields and just general use. I coach high school soccer and our practice fields are used year round. Between high school sports (soccer and football) and youth sports our fields resemble the surface of the moon. It amazes me we have not had more ankle injuries.

We match up well... Well on paper we do anyways. Those first two drives you guys had really had me pissed. Our defense hasn't looked that bad all season. We played a pretty sloppy game all around. Wilson didn't look great in the 2nd half. We're a team that plays better on turf though, so I think playing in a dome will help. We have one of, if not the best CB tandem in the league to lock up with White and Jones. Atlanta is a little over rated. They had the weakest strength of schedule in the league this year, they almost lost to Oakland and Arizona (after they were in free fall) at home. It will be a tough game, but they are beatable. 2 week rest, so they might be a little rusty. Flying all the way across the country to DC, all the way back, and then across the country again to Atlanta and playing at 10 AM (pacific time) worries me though.

Its a horrible field. You can keep grass and just get better grass. Its poor grass and poorly maintained.

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It is just so damn sandy too. I know nothing about turf management, but I assume the sandy soil causes the grass to uproot easily and turn into what we see.

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Hell both High Schools I attended now have Field Turf. It's incredible that the Redskins don't. Sure the boosters are rich but if a prissy little high school can afford it then I'm sure a top 5 net value sports franchise can as well.

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I don't think there's any way Snyder doesn't shell out some change to put in a new field this offseason. After the national exposure from the game and talk about how it might have contributed to his franchise quarterback's knee injury he will be crucified if nothing is done about it. It seems we're all in agreement that the field is in terrible shape, the next question should be which option are we going to go with.

I'm not sure I want Fieldturf in there with all the rumors about injuries it causes. Even if they just re-sodded the field and brought a couple natural grass experts in to work their magic I'd be ok with that.

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What was at the stadium site before it was built? I thought I remember someone saying it was swampland at one time. I think the soil there is the bigger problem. The field issues aren't a new thing. It's been like that since the stadium opened.

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[quote=Mattyk;985996]What was at the stadium site before it was built? I thought I remember someone saying it was swampland at one time. I think the soil there is the bigger problem. The field issues aren't a new thing. It's been like that since the stadium opened.[/quote]that's crazy if they used local soil/turf from the construction site

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[quote=Mattyk;985996]What was at the stadium site before it was built? I thought I remember someone saying it was swampland at one time. I think the soil there is the bigger problem. The field issues aren't a new thing. It's been like that since the stadium opened.[/quote]

I think the entire DC area is swamp land.

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[quote=Mattyk;985996]What was at the stadium site before it was built? [B]I thought I remember someone saying it was swampland at one time.[/B] I think the soil there is the bigger problem. The field issues aren't a new thing. It's been like that since the stadium opened.[/quote]

I wouldn't be surprised, I heard once that DC was built on swampland. Obviously Fedex Field isn't considered DC but it's close enough that it could be swampland.

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The field at RFK was no picnic either. By the end of the year it was just spray painted dirt.

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[quote=Ruhskins;986001]I think the entire DC area is swamp land.[/quote]

With really nice roads.

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had to laugh at this "comparison", probably could have mentioned that one if artificial...

[url=http://twitpic.com/btcc4w]Side-by-side photo of fields, 30 miles apart, both outdoors, ... on Twitpic[/url]

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[quote=los panda;986049]had to laugh at this "comparison", probably could have mentioned that one if artificial...

[url=http://twitpic.com/btcc4w]Side-by-side photo of fields, 30 miles apart, both outdoors, ... on Twitpic[/url][/quote]

Is he serious? I hope he knows that's not grass on the left.

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The Ravens don't play on grass? I thought they did.

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[quote=Mattyk;986005]The field at RFK was no picnic either. By the end of the year it was just spray painted dirt.[/quote]

No doubt, the 82 and 91 Championship games were played in slop.

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[quote=BaltimoreSkins;986057]The Ravens don't play on grass? I thought they did.[/quote]

M&T stadium switched to field turf in 2003

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%26T_Bank_Stadium]M&T Bank Stadium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url]

[QUOTE=BaltimoreSkins;986057]The Ravens don't play on grass? I thought they did.[/QUOTE]

I have walked on it pretty nice stuff. Feels like grass to your footsteps but if you rub your hand across it you definitely know it is fake.

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[quote=Mattyk;986061]M&T stadium switched to field turf in 2003

[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%26T_Bank_Stadium]M&T Bank Stadium - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/url][/quote]

We had their turf manager come and speak to our horticulture class years ago at the school I teach at, it must've been prior to 2003. Damn time flies fast!