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Timeline of certain events...
[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1488415-full-timeline-of-manti-teo-and-lennay-keuka-story]Full Timeline of Manti Te'o and Lennay Kekua Story | Bleacher Report[/url]

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I think his performance in the championship game will hurt his draft stock more than his lies, regardless of his motivations.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;989406]I think his performance in the championship game will hurt his draft stock more than his lies, regardless of his motivations.[/quote]

Cause he knew the story was about to come out. He's full of shit.

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really who cares? i think the lie actually raised over 3 grand for leukemia.


I honestly feel bad for him.

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Stating the obvious: Sometimes young people don't make mature decisions.

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[quote=mredskins;989409]really who cares?[B] i think the lie actually raised over 3 grand for leukemia. [/B]


I honestly feel bad for him.[/quote]As someone who's been involved in raising money for The Leukemia & Lymphoma Society for a few years, I have to say this is a really good point.
To be honest, I sort of feel the same way about Lance Armstrong.

*edit - I wouldn't go so far as to say I feel bad for the guy

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Lennay Kekua's death resonated across the college football landscape—especially at Notre Dame, where the community immediately embraced her as a fallen sister. Charity funds were started, and donations poured into foundations dedicated to leukemia research. More than $3,000 has been pledged in one IndieGogo campaign raising money for the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society.

[url=http://deadspin.com/5976517/manti-teos-dead-girlfriend-the-most-heartbreaking-and-inspirational-story-of-the-college-football-season-is-a-hoax]Manti Te'o's Dead Girlfriend, The Most Heartbreaking And Inspirational Story Of The College Football Season, Is A Hoax[/url]

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There are much worst things going on in this country right now.


Even if the guy lied and was part of it. who did he really hurt? Probably himself and family the most.

There is a saying for teenage and twenty something boys.

Young dumb and full of c*m.

Those three factors make for bad decisions. I know I had plenty at that age.

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Raising money is great, but I have a hard time feeling bad for him without yet knowing the extent of his involvement in this whole thing.

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Why is Notre Dame backing this clown? The AD was crying while he gave a press conference. lol. You gotta be kidding me. I don't know who looks worse. Te'o or the AD.

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I've ignored the whole enchilada till now. He just sounds like a kid with maturity issues, rather than a compulsive liar etc. Is that the general feeling?

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[quote=skinsfan69;989424]Why is Notre Dame backing this clown? The AD was crying while he gave a press conference. lol. You gotta be kidding me. I don't know who looks worse. Te'o or the AD.[/quote]

Good point, and one i hadnt really thought of.

I just listened to a radio interview from September, after his non-existent girlfriend "died." He stated he spoke to her on the phone every night for 4 months because she couldnt go fall asleep unless they were on the phone.

So I wonder how anyone can think of supporting him, or claim he was a victim of an online hoax. Now he's saying it was exclusively online. There is no possible explanation or reconcilation between the two stories Te'o has told.

In one scenario, you have him telling a bold face lie about his relationship with his deceased girlfriend - in an interview when he is also distraught about his grandmother dying.

In the other, he DID talk to her every day, but now, for reasons that i cannot fathom, he is saying he didnt and it was online-only.

Either way, he's enough of a head-case to raise alot of red flags to NFL teams. However, alot NFL teams dont seem to have a problem spending 1st round picks on guys who've beat their girlfriends, stealing laptops, and doing drugs, so maybe making up a girlfriend is a small red flag in comparison.

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Yeah I want to know if he was really talking to a girl on the phone or if he was making that up. If he wasn't making it up then who could the girls voice be?

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[quote=CultBrennan59;989430]Yeah I want to know if he was really talking to a girl on the phone or if he was making that up. If he wasn't making it up then who could the girls voice be?[/quote]he would like you to believe that is was some stranger playing a cruel joke on him

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He lied about having a girlfriend, and killed her off when it wasn't convenient anymore. No actual girlfriends were harmed in the production of this story. Worst thing about this story is the timing both now, and during some of the events.

For me, I think he used her as an excuse when he needed to get away from his parents (pretty sure all of us made up things to get parents off our backs, well at least I know I did), and then when his Grandma died, he -being not so creative - used that same plot to get rid of an unnecessary fiction in his life. During the course of it, it took on legs of it's own, and getting out from under it made for the conflicting parts of his stories.

My best hope is that he somehow falls to us, but this isn't going to cause that type of fall, I am sure. (If it does, we need to get Vinnie C to start planting fictional girlfriends for all the top cornerbacks and safeties in the draft, for some reason I think he would be good at that!)

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[quote=CultBrennan59;989430]Yeah I want to know if he was really talking to a girl on the phone or if he was making that up. If he wasn't making it up then who could the girls voice be?[/quote]

There is no logical explanation for why he'd now be saying it was online only, if he had talked to someone on the phone. It seems obvioius to me he was lying before when he said he talked to her, and he's lying now when he says he was the victim of a hoax. The only think i'm really interested in is WHY he lied then and why he's lying now. I am guessing there will be alot more lies before the truth is uncovered.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;989432]He lied about having a girlfriend, and killed her off when it wasn't convenient anymore. No actual girlfriends were harmed in the production of this story. Worst thing about this story is the timing both now, and during some of the events.

For me, I think he used her as an excuse when he needed to get away from his parents (pretty sure all of us made up things to get parents off our backs, well at least I know I did), and then when his Grandma died, he -being not so creative - used that same plot to get rid of an unnecessary fiction in his life. During the course of it, it took on legs of it's own, and getting out from under it made for the conflicting parts of his stories.

My best hope is that he somehow falls to us, but this isn't going to cause that type of fall, I am sure. (If it does, we need to get Vinnie C to start planting fictional girlfriends for all the top cornerbacks and safeties in the draft, for some reason I think he would be good at that!)[/quote]

ILB is pretty low down on our priorities. Add to that the fact that he looked awful against an NFL-style offense in the championship game, and i dont know why we'd waste a 2nd round pick on a guy with so many question marks. I'm positive there are 10-15 other players we could get in the later rounds who have simliar abilities without the baggage.

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Maybe I'm not understanding this whole thing. So clear this up for me guys, in case I'm wrong...

This kid (Te'o) talked to a girl over the internet, met her, continued the relationship, then randomly she "dies", then randomly she "calls him and says she's not dead", then he continues acting like she's dead, until the press breaks the story and he fesses up that he was had?

If I'm right (which I'm not sure if I am), how is that his fault at all? The guy's probably incredibly embarrassed.

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What I'm learning from The Warpath. Raise a little money for charity and you can be a douchebag and no one cares!

[QUOTE=BigHairedAristocrat;989406]I think his performance in the championship game will hurt his draft stock more than his lies, regardless of his motivations.[/QUOTE]

Agreed.

@Goat - i here what you are saying about our locker room , but his teammates love him. This isnt a Vinny move, he is not 40 and he can plsy football. I agree with Coff - look at pittsburgh. Depending on what the off field issues are they dont always translate into locker room cancers. I really agree with BHA though Bama game hurts more than this crazy shit. That being said the entire team didnt show up for Bama. Manti's body of work at ND plus a good combine = draft if available imo.

[QUOTE=skinsfan69;989424]Why is Notre Dame backing this clown? The AD was crying while he gave a press conference. lol. You gotta be kidding me. I don't know who looks worse. Te'o or the AD.[/QUOTE]

I think they are backing themselves. I mean they sort of come across as dumb too if he was at fault for this.

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Who cares even if the worst case scenario is he made it up . Did it ruin anyone's life on here? He surely embarrassed ND, his family and most of all himself. ALSO, in the process of the lie he raised $3k for leukemia. I am not saying that made it right I am just saying other then the embarrassment that was the only other by-product of this.

I don't think that warrants him being a d-bag.

Really is anyone on here really butt hurt over this? If so you may want check to see if you have a life of your own.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;989434]ILB is pretty low down on our priorities. Add to that the fact that he looked awful against an NFL-style offense in the championship game, and i dont know why we'd waste a 2nd round pick on a guy with so many question marks. I'm positive there are 10-15 other players we could get in the later rounds who have simliar abilities without the baggage.[/quote]

I don't follow college football, so maybe he's not. I do know he was raved about for the year, and was a Heismann candidate. Maybe he doesn't fit, so I am not sitting counting how far he drops, but if he was a top 10, and he fell to the 50ish spot mainly because of this, I would not be upset if we grabbed him.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;989435]Maybe I'm not understanding this whole thing. So clear this up for me guys, in case I'm wrong...

This kid (Te'o) talked to a girl over the internet, met her, continued the relationship, then randomly she "dies", then randomly she "calls him and says she's not dead", then he continues acting like she's dead, until the press breaks the story and he fesses up that he was had?

If I'm right (which I'm not sure if I am), how is that his fault at all? The guy's probably incredibly embarrassed.[/quote]

Well, I guess there is some question as to whether there ever was even a girl to begin with, or whether the whole thing was just one lie stacked on another.
I thought it was the second one, but either way I just tend to agree with mredskins

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before this whole thing, i didn't want him for anything higher than a 4th/5th.

until all the facts come out, i'll reserve myself

[QUOTE=mredskins;989439]Who cares even if the worst case scenario is he made it up . Did it ruin anyone's life on here? He surely embarrassed ND, his family and most of all himself. ALSO, in the process of the lie he raised $3k for leukemia. I am not saying that made it right I am just saying other then the embarrassment that was the only other by-product of this.

I don't think that warrants him being a d-bag.

Really is anyone on here really butt hurt over this? If so you may want check to see if you have a life of your own.[/QUOTE]

Since we dont know the facts obviously this is all just speculation. I tend to agree with your overall point. I mean its hard to pinpoint exactly what he did wrong if he was in fact not the victim. That being said , if i told everybody i had cancer, and raised alot of money from family and friends (and fans if i had them), is that ok? Im having a hard time thinking he did nothing wrong if this indeed was all his own making, even though it didnt "hurt" anyone.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;989435]Maybe [B]I'm not understanding this whole thing.[/B] So clear this up for me guys, in case I'm wrong...

This kid (Te'o) talked to a girl over the internet, met her, continued the relationship, then randomly she "dies", then randomly she "calls him and says she's not dead", then he continues acting like she's dead, until the press breaks the story and he fesses up that he was had? [/quote]

I think youre not understanding.

His original version of the relationship was: He physically met her, talked to her on the phone every day, and also communicated with her online.

His current story is it was online-only and it was a hoax and he's embarrassed.


[quote=]If I'm right (which I'm not sure if I am), how is that his fault at all? The guy's probably incredibly embarrassed.[/quote]

He's at fault for lying - best case scenario, he lied about meeting her and lied about talking to her on the phone every day in a tearful interview about his (imaginary) girlfriend and real grandmother dying on the same day. which is pretty dispicable and dishonors his grandmother in my opinion.

Worst case (and probably most likely scenario), he made the entire thing up for reasons which are unknown.

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[quote=mredskins;989439]Who cares even if the worst case scenario is he made it up . Did it ruin anyone's life on here? He surely embarrassed ND, his family and most of all himself. ALSO, in the process of the lie he raised $3k for leukemia. I am not saying that made it right I am just saying other then the embarrassment that was the only other by-product of this.

I don't think that warrants him being a d-bag.

[B]Really is anyone on here really butt hurt over this? [/B]If so you may want check to see if you have a life of your own.[/quote]

I'm butt hurt. She was my girlfriend until she left me for him. Now I find out that she doesn't exist. Heartbreaking.

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[quote=punch it in;989443]Since we dont know the facts obviously this is all just speculation. I tend to agree with your overall point. I mean its hard to pinpoint exactly what he did wrong if he was in fact not the victim. That being said , if i told everybody i had cancer, and raised alot of money from family and friends (and fans if i had them), is that ok? Im having a hard time thinking he did nothing wrong if this indeed was all his own making, even though it didnt "hurt" anyone.[/quote]

I personally worked with a guy who did that. Told EVERYONE he had cancer, us, his roommates (who were also his co-workers), his church, I think even his parents. Had people offering to pick him up from the doctor's after his chemo treatments and what not. His church was even raising money for him.

Eventually his roommate/co-worker called his doctor to ask how his progression was going. And his doctor was like wtf, he doesn't have cancer!

After I heard about that, I never saw him at work again. I guess he had to move out of state and change his name.

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^ how many people did t.o. hurt? but he may certainly be considered a douche bag.

i don't think you have to hurt people in order to be a douche bag, maybe that's just me.

and that's not even touching on whether he did or did not hurt anyone

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;989433]There is no logical explanation for why he'd now be saying it was online only, if he had talked to someone on the phone. It seems obvioius to me he was lying before when he said he talked to her, and he's lying now when he says he was the victim of a hoax. The only think i'm really interested in is WHY he lied then and why he's lying now. I am guessing there will be alot more lies before the truth is uncovered.[/quote]


This thing is pretty crazy and i have trouble following the timeline and all the differnent things.

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]That said, i just believe him for some reason. Obviously he lied about stuff, but i dont think he was maliciously lying. I feel like he was lying because he was uncomfortable or had a difficult time explaining that it was an online relationship only. Perhaps friends/family questioned him about the relationship and because he so desperately wanted to believe it was real he made things up, like talking on the phone or meeting the girl in order to appease his critics. [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]But he very well might just be insane. [/FONT][/COLOR]

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[quote=DynamiteRave;989446]I personally worked with a guy who did that. Told EVERYONE he had cancer, us, his roommates (who were also his co-workers), his church, I think even his parents. Had people offering to pick him up from the doctor's after his chemo treatments and what not. His church was even raising money for him.

[B]Eventually his roommate/co-worker called his doctor to ask how his progression was going. And his doctor was like wtf, he doesn't have cancer![/B]

After I heard about that, I never saw him at work again. I guess he had to move out of state and change his name.[/quote]how can a doctor disclose that?!?

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[quote=punch it in;989443]Since we dont know the facts obviously this is all just speculation. I tend to agree with your overall point. I mean its hard to pinpoint exactly what he did wrong if he was in fact not the victim. That being said , if i told everybody i had cancer, and raised alot of money from family and friends (and fans if i had them), is that ok? Im having a hard time thinking he did nothing wrong if this indeed was all his own making, even though it didnt "hurt" anyone.[/quote]

The money was raised by another group to support the sad Irish fan seen on TV during the bowl game. They picked leukemia because of Manti's GF to be the charity.

Manti had nothing to do with the actually fund raiser. he didn't go around saying "oh give money to the cancer that killed my snuffaluffagus".

[URL="http://www.indiegogo.com/sadirishfan/"]Let's Make Sad Irish Fan Happy Again | Indiegogo[/URL]

From the the above web site:

[I]UPDATE: Sad Irish Fan would like all supporters of the campaign to know that our goal has been, and will continue to be, to fight against leukemia & lymphoma and the terrible effects these diseases cause people every day. Recently, it has been brought to our attention that a member of the football team known to many to be negatively impacted by leukemia, may have been the victim of an elaborate hoax. While the details are still unclear and unknown to us, the Sad Irish Fan campaign will continue fighting against the disease which causes tens of thousands of deaths each year in the US alone. We thank everyone who has supported the campaign and stands with us in our mission.[/I]

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[quote=los panda;989449]how can a doctor disclose that?!?[/quote]

Doctors can be weird.

My ex's ex was with this girl, and her doctor tells her parents EVERYTHING. She's 24 years old.

I guess some doctor's don't give a damn about HIPPA

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;989434]ILB is pretty low down on our priorities. [B]Add to that the fact that he looked awful against an NFL-style offense in the championship game, and i dont know why we'd waste a 2nd round pick on a guy with so many question marks[/B]. I'm positive there are 10-15 other players we could get in the later rounds who have simliar abilities without the baggage.[/quote]


Maybe he only looked so aweful because it was right after the inital, inital story broke?

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For those confused about the story this is the best rad to get up to speed:

[url=http://deadspin.com/5976517/manti-teos-dead-girlfriend-the-most-heartbreaking-and-inspirational-story-of-the-college-football-season-is-a-hoax]Manti Te'o's Dead Girlfriend, The Most Heartbreaking And Inspirational Story Of The College Football Season, Is A Hoax[/url]

cough D-Rave cough

=)

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[quote=mlmpetert;989448]This thing is pretty crazy and i have trouble following the timeline and all the differnent things.

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]That said, i just believe him for some reason. Obviously he lied about stuff, but i dont think he was maliciously lying. I feel like he was lying because he was uncomfortable or had a difficult time explaining that it was an online relationship only. Perhaps friends/family questioned him about the relationship and because he so desperately wanted to believe it was real he made things up, like talking on the phone or meeting the girl in order to appease his critics. [/FONT][/COLOR]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana][B]But he very well might just be insane.[/B] [/FONT][/COLOR][/quote]

Actually when you first fall in love with someone there is a chemical reaction in your brain that makes you kind of loopy.

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[quote=BigHairedAristocrat;989444]I think youre not understanding.

His original version of the relationship was: He physically met her, talked to her on the phone every day, and also communicated with her online.

His current story is it was online-only and it was a hoax and he's embarrassed.




He's at fault for lying - best case scenario, he lied about meeting her and lied about talking to her on the phone every day in a tearful interview about his (imaginary) girlfriend and real grandmother dying on the same day. which is pretty dispicable and dishonors his grandmother in my opinion.

Worst case (and probably most likely scenario), he made the entire thing up for reasons which are unknown.[/quote]

I feel like the only reason he would go back and say it was online only is out of sheer embarrassment.

If I got attached to someone and then they rejected me in the most abhorrent way possible (faking death), I'd probably lie to cover it up too. Difference is I'm just some schmoe and he's a Division I, high media football player. He had to know this would come out at some point.

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I feel embarrassed for the guy. Fell in love with a person on the net without ever verifying she was legit. Naive guy to say the least, but I cringe at having to endure this press storm hitting him.