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What are your expectations going forward? After a season in which the Washington Redskins were very competitive in all but two games(Pittsburgh & Carolina) and seeing that five of their seven losses could have ended up as wins, what are your expectations for next year? Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan have drafted, traded for, and signed quality free agents to assist in helping this team win.

But in the near future, where do you see the Redskins? The last three times the Redskins made the playoffs(under Norv Turner and Joe Gibbs 2wice) the Redskins had difficulty returning the years afterwards. Where do you guys see this team in 2013 and beyond?

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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;991227]What are your expectations going forward? After a season in which the Washington Redskins were very competitive in all but two games(Pittsburgh & Carolina) and seeing that five of their seven losses could have ended up as wins, what are your expectations for next year? Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan have drafted, traded for, and signed quality free agents to assist in helping this team win.

But in the near future, where do you see the Redskins? The last three times the Redskins made the playoffs(under Norv Turner and Joe Gibbs 2wice) the Redskins had difficulty returning the years afterwards. Where do you guys see this team in 2013 and beyond?[/quote]

My guess is that we miss the playoffs next year due to RG3 still recovering from the injury. But who knows.

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[quote=mbedner3420;991229]My guess is that we miss the playoffs next year due to RG3 still recovering from the injury. But who knows.[/quote]

Well, RG3 was the main reason why the Redskins did well last season. But we still don't don't whether or not he can return back in time for the season opener. I have firm trust that with Kirk Cousins leading the Redskins offense, and with a much improved pass defense, the Redskins can be a 9 or 10 win team once again.

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I think it depends on the status of RG3. If he is ready to go next year, I think we can compete for the division title. If he is not, then its gonna depends more on the improvement of defense. If healthy and an improved talent in the secondary, then a division title is not out of the question with Cousins.

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Depends on how much we improve the secondary and who our first 4-6 games are and how RG3 does recovering from his injury.

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Depends on RG3's progress and what we can do to improve our secondary. We flew under the radar some this year which caught teams by surprise. Right now my gut says 8-8.

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The entire fate of the Redskins will rest in the hands of Kirk Cousins. It is he that will determine the kind of season we will have. With the return of Rak our D should be solid up front, I would like to see a little more stability in the secondary. I believe the Skins can make the playoffs again with or without RG3, Morris will be a big factor in breaking in Cousins or if by some miracle RG3 should return, Morris will help to re-acclimate him.

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I fully expect more progress and I fully expect this team to keep winning. Either with or without RG III under center I still believe we will win a bunch of games next year.

The FO will make improvements to the team as a whole and I whole heartedly believe we will compete for and win the division again, and make some noise in the playoffs. Just my 2cents

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[quote=44ever;991237][B]The entire fate of the Redskins will rest in the hands of Kirk Cousins[/B]. It is he that will determine the kind of season we will have. With the return of Rak our D should be solid up front, I would like to see a little more stability in the secondary. I believe the Skins can make the playoffs again with or without RG3, Morris will be a big factor in breaking in Cousins or if by some miracle RG3 should return, Morris will help to re-acclimate him.[/quote]

If RG3 is not ready for the season, the coaches will be ready so the entire fate will not be in Cousins hand. The coaches will have a game plan to take the pressure off Cousins if he has to start. No way they will put it all on him.

We went 3- 6, then got it together and went 7-0. And 5-1 in division. I don't see any reason why we would take a major step back, even with Griffin out the first 6 weeks (my expectation). Cousins showed he has a level of ability, I am confident we can go at least 3-3, especially since one of the main things that we did in the last half was cut down on mistakes. I think we will do good in the division again, and will make it back to the playoffs.

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The Redskins will be favored to win the Division if Griffin is healthy and ready to go week 1.
This team has turned the corner IMO, Even if Kirk starts the first 2-4 games I have faith in him to get us Wins. Lets add some much needed talent to the Defense and maybe 1 WR and we'll be ready.

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8-8 or better

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To be honest? 11-5 or 12-4 next season with the number 2 or 3 seed. And I see our defense jumping into the top 15 because we will focus so hard on it.

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at least 10 wins. we need to fix the defense a bit though and make sure we have a good TE for next season.

[QUOTE=EARTHQUAKE2689;991248]To be honest? 11-5 or 12-4 next season with the number 2 or 3 seed. And I see our defense jumping into the top 15 because we will focus so hard on it.[/QUOTE]

Yep unless an injury happens like RG3 or Trent Williams, we should be a playoff team and if not it's a dissapointment

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Tweek the secondary, add another LB, a tall WR, a Tackle and we will a threat.
RGIII has to be 110% before he steps on the field and WE MUST dial down the QB runs.

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[quote=tc2deuce;991255]Tweek the secondary, add another LB, a tall WR, a Tackle and we will a threat.
RGIII has to be 110% before he steps on the field and WE MUST dial down the QB runs.[/quote]

Man people are obsessed with WRs.

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[quote=Chico23231;991239]If RG3 is not ready for the season, the coaches will be ready so the entire fate will not be in Cousins hand. The coaches will have a game plan to take the pressure off Cousins if he has to start. No way they will put it all on him.[/quote]

Did you read my entire post or just the part about Kirk Cousins? Morris will be the lending support. But It will ultimately come down to the QB's play ability.

With that said, I see no reason why coaches wouldn't put the game in Kirks hands just as they did RG3 or the way SF have put the game in Colin Kaepernicks. You are way to hung up on RG3.

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[quote=Ruhskins;991257]Man people are obsessed with WRs.[/quote]

Not just WRs, Tall ones!!!

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[quote=tc2deuce;991255]Tweek the secondary, add another LB, a tall WR, a Tackle and we will a threat.
RGIII has to be 110% before he steps on the field and WE MUST dial down the QB runs.[/quote]

Our offense already is a threat, without adding a tall WR, and we have some OL talent that we are training. I don't know how you define tweak, but if by tweak you mean a complete revamping of the Safety positions and add at least depth and probably a starter at corner, then I agree with you.

LB, I might be in the minority, but I like our LB's, I think Riley takes even another step in 2013, and our other guys all move one notch up, letting Fletcher play less snaps as needed to keep him healthy (if he doesn't retire).

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[quote=44ever;991259]Did you read my entire post or just the part about Kirk Cousins? Morris will be the lending support. But It will ultimately come down to the QB's play ability.

With that said, I see no reason why coaches wouldn't put the game in Kirks hands just as they did RG3 or the way SF have put the game in Colin Kaepernicks. [B]You are way to hung up on RG3[/B].[/quote]

similar to your hang up on this Cousins is the future baloney.

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I am very optimistic for the future. I think in 2013 we will go 12-4, have a playoff bye, and go to the NFC championship game. And I stand by this prediction even if Gryphon is not ready for the beginning of the season.

Huzzah!

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I think we now know the weak areas of the team and will improve them. Secondary and RT will likely be addressed. We're getting some good players back from injury: Orakpo, Helu, Davis, Carriker, Nield, K. Robinson, Meriweather hopefully and even some prospects like Chase Minnifield and Jordan Bernstine. Garcon SHOULD have his foot issue completely behind him by then.

Even if RGIII misses a month, we'll be fine with Cousins. The NFL is putting a lot of division games at the end of the season, so we'll have Griffin back for those.

We have a few key areas of weakness to address and I'm confident that Allen and Shanahan will be able to recognize and fill those spots with good players. The drafts since these two have taken over have been incredibly successful, amazing really how we've done so much with so little. Draft day is so exciting in the past few years, not frustrating like they used to be.

We should repeat as division champs. We're the only team in the NFC East who isn't in a decline. Our future is bright.

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Kirk comes in and plays stron winning 4 of 5 before RGIII is ready to go. We go 10-6 and deep inti the playoffs. Kirk's stock jumps and we trade him for some nice draft pics.

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Our season this year was a tale of two halves. The first half, the close ones got away from us, the second half the close ones went our way. Sometimes a team is a little better or worse than its record; this year our record was a good reflection of our team.

So, what differences next season will affect our success?

1. Injuries. This year we were one of the most injured teams in the league, particularly our defense. A healthier defense would make this team at least two wins stronger. The loss of Garcon greatly affected our ability to score, and subsequently the Redskins didn't win many games when he was out. On the other hand, we can't expect our offensive line to be as healthy next year. And of course, there's the matter of RGIII. If we had to guess, I'd say we'd have to worry more about injuries next year because of RGIII's surgery. That being said, I think we'll have to take wins off the board considering injuries.

2. Schedule- Could be a wash; we'll have a first place schedule instead of a last place schedule which will make it harder. On the other hand, the AFC opponents are coming out of the west instead of the North, which will benefit us. As far as our division opponents, who can say? I don't expect the Giants to improve, however the Eagles are a talented club. Who knows? Schedule- a wash.

3. Roster- unlikely that any draft picks will immediately help the team, since we don't have a high pick. Could add depth, but that would only be if injuries were a problem. Age isn't really a problem, with the obvious exception of Fletcher. Free agency isn't going to help much considering out cap restrictions. A slight addition to the secondary could make a marked difference however, and I'm optimistic we can do something on that front. (Though it is worth noted that during our winning streak, the secondary played very well). Overall, I see this as a slight advantage to the Redskins

4. RGIII experience- look, we all know the importance of RGIII. So how much we he grow in his second year? A better question might be to what extent will opposing defenses better prepare for what they will be facing? Look, this off-season every defensive coach in the league will be making it a priority to figure out ways to limit RGIII, Wilson, Kaepernick, Cam Newton, etc. I think we'll see some big improvements. I anticipate we will see some regression on this front as defenses advance more quickly then the QBs.

Altogether, the Skins could reasonably be better, they could reasonably be worse. If we were to draw parameters, I think we could say that the Redskins will win between 8 and 12 games this year; the big difference is RGIII's health. I'd put the win total for next season at 9.

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One big factor next year, that helped us this year, was turnovers. I believe Griffin had 8 fumbles but only lost 1 or two. Our defense scored several times and/or put our offense on very short fields. Next year we probably won't have as many - just on law of averages - so our on field play (offense and defense) will need to step up a bit in other areas, most notably 3rd down execution.

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[quote=Coff;991325]Our season this year was a tale of two halves. The first half, the close ones got away from us, the second half the close ones went our way. Sometimes a team is a little better or worse than its record; this year our record was a good reflection of our team.

So, what differences next season will affect our success?

1. Injuries. This year we were one of the most injured teams in the league, particularly our defense. A healthier defense would make this team at least two wins stronger. The loss of Garcon greatly affected our ability to score, and subsequently the Redskins didn't win many games when he was out. On the other hand, we can't expect our offensive line to be as healthy next year. And of course, there's the matter of RGIII. If we had to guess, I'd say we'd have to worry more about injuries next year because of RGIII's surgery. That being said, I think we'll have to take wins off the board considering injuries.

2. Schedule- Could be a wash; we'll have a first place schedule instead of a last place schedule which will make it harder. On the other hand, the AFC opponents are coming out of the west instead of the North, which will benefit us. As far as our division opponents, who can say? I don't expect the Giants to improve, however the Eagles are a talented club. Who knows? Schedule- a wash.

3. Roster- unlikely that any draft picks will immediately help the team, since we don't have a high pick. Could add depth, but that would only be if injuries were a problem. Age isn't really a problem, with the obvious exception of Fletcher. Free agency isn't going to help much considering out cap restrictions. A slight addition to the secondary could make a marked difference however, and I'm optimistic we can do something on that front. (Though it is worth noted that during our winning streak, the secondary played very well). Overall, I see this as a slight advantage to the Redskins

4. RGIII experience- look, we all know the importance of RGIII. So how much we he grow in his second year? A better question might be to what extent will opposing defenses better prepare for what they will be facing? Look, this off-season every defensive coach in the league will be making it a priority to figure out ways to limit RGIII, Wilson, Kaepernick, Cam Newton, etc. I think we'll see some big improvements. I anticipate we will see some regression on this front as defenses advance more quickly then the QBs.

Altogether, the Skins could reasonably be better, they could reasonably be worse. If we were to draw parameters, I think we could say that the Redskins will win between 8 and 12 games this year; the big difference is RGIII's health. I'd put the win total for next season at 9.[/quote]

I keep hearing how defensive coordinators will figure out how to defense our scheme in the off season and how that will be a negative for our prospects in 2013.

I submit that our offensive gurus will not be resting on their laurels and will develop schemes the other guys haven't seen yet. So I don't buy the gloom and doom of our offense being "figured out" somehow. I think by the end of next season teams will be trying to copy our defense once again, à la DirtyBirds and 49ers, and we will continue to be in the driver's seat.

With the Wilson/Kapernick adulation the media seem to have put us on the back burner. I say good -- we'll be on their front burner again soon enough... It's amazing to think that we were but one Ngata hit away from making it to the Super Bowl. Good times are here to stay!

HTTR

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[quote=Ruhskins;991257]Man people are obsessed with WRs.[/quote]

I agree and they always say tall WR...lol!!! If Megatron is out there get him if not get the best WR you can..

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[quote=SCRedskinsFan;991350]I keep hearing how defensive coordinators will figure out how to defense our scheme in the off season and how that will be a negative for our prospects in 2013.

[B]I submit that our offensive gurus will not be resting on their laurels and will develop schemes the other guys haven't seen yet.[/B] So I don't buy the gloom and doom of our offense being "figured out" somehow. I think by the end of next season teams will be trying to copy our defense once again, à la DirtyBirds and 49ers, and we will continue to be in the driver's seat.

With the Wilson/Kapernick adulation the media seem to have put us on the back burner. I say good -- we'll be on their front burner again soon enough... It's amazing to think that we were but one Ngata hit away from making it to the Super Bowl. Good times are here to stay!

HTTR[/quote]

I would have to agree with you.

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[quote=Mattyk;991274]similar to your hang up on this Cousins is the future baloney.[/quote]

Not really, I believe both QB's are capable and can run the offense effectively without the help of the coaches babying. I just believe Cousins has the ability to last the whole season where RG3 can't.


If you want to hang onto RG3 after what you have seen this season thats fine, I'll save myself the disappointment. Its not just the Knee injury but the concussion as well. The guy is just not gonna last IMO. I wish I was wrong, but Im not.

In any case my original point was the Redskins can win with either QB.

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[quote=44ever;991419]Not really, I believe both QB's are capable and can run the offense effectively without the help of the coaches babying. I just believe Cousins has the ability to last the whole season where RG3 can't.


If you want to hang onto RG3 after what you have seen this season thats fine, I'll save myself the disappointment. Its not just the Knee injury but the concussion as well. The guy is just not gonna last IMO. I wish I was wrong, but Im not.

In any case my original point was the Redskins can win with either QB.[/quote]

One season and you're done with him eh?

He's not the first QB that can run or that got hurt, he'll figure things out.

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[quote=Mattyk;991274]similar to your hang up on this Cousins is the future baloney.[/quote]

There's some pretty smart people out there who say the same thing unless our offense changes. In his first year RG suffered a concussion, major knee injury, missed significant time and should have missed significantly more. Herm Edwards' and others comments that RG is a five year QB at this pace is probably liberal if anything.

Or is there another story here?

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[quote=Mattyk;991426]One season and you're done with him eh?

He's not the first QB that can run or that got hurt, [B]he'll figure things out.[/B][/quote]

I hope you're right. I don't mind crow.

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[quote=The Goat;991427]There's some pretty smart people out there who say the same thing unless our offense changes. In his first year RG suffered a concussion, major knee injury, missed significant time and should have missed significantly more. Herm Edwards' and others comments that RG is a five year QB at this pace is probably liberal if anything.

Or is there another story here?[/quote]

Funny thing is his injuries happened on scrambles, not designed runs.

The offense isn't the problem.

Five year QB? Come on that's a joke. The league has seen plenty of mobile QBs so why is RG3 a five year guy when guys like Cunningham, Vick, Young, etc all had long careers?

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[quote=Mattyk;991432]Funny thing is his injuries happened on scrambles, not designed runs.

The offense isn't the problem.

Five year QB? Come on that's a joke. The league has seen plenty of mobile QBs so why is RG3 a five year guy when guys like Cunningham, Vick, Young, etc all had long careers?[/quote]

To be sure RG must protect himself better, scrambling and otherwise. But our pass protection is poor...didn't we see something after the season saying RG took the highest percentage of hits on drop backs?

Cunningham and Young were much larger/stouter athletes. Vick was far better at avoiding hits, and then he got a nice long break lol.

Again, I think five years, given the current "trend" if you will, is probably liberal. The league is facing blowback on the concussion issue, and policy changes, even drastic ones, won't surprise me over the next three seasons.

But ultimately it's just a law of averages. A QB keeping the ball as often as RG has will break down no matter what. Add the fact he's not built to withstand contact and been unable (thus far) to avoid it, I mean it's pretty easy to figure he'll play partial seasons for a few years before the big one happens.

Why not just improve pass protection and scheme now? That's the bottom line, right?

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Griffin isn't a glass doll, I'd wager good money he lasts more than 5 years.

In fact can anyone name a starting QB in the last 25 years that had a career of 5 years or less due to injury?

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I am new to the forum and as you know i am not allowed to start a new thread or i would. I have been a skins fan since 1985 (5 years old) I feel the Redskins were playing better football this year than i have seen in years. IMO Cousins should have came in as soon as we could ALL see how bad RG3 was hurt. I am really hoping that decision doesn't come back and bite us in the ass. Of course we have to address the secondary. There has been another thing really bothering me. I hope it doesn't become a huge distraction, and i don't know how you guys feel on the issue but....2 years ago i started a Facebook page "Do NOT change the Redskins name" I haven't given it much thought and haven't really touched the page again until last week. When the issue suddenly took off again. I would much rather hear what actual Redskins fans have to say on the issue rather than the liberals i have been arguing with for a week. If you are a liberal that's fine too. At least you are a Redskins/football fan. You don't even have to like the page (I could care less about likes) just come get in on the conversation. There are very few people. I feel like this is an issue that needs to spread around Redskins nation like wildfire. I'm really not trying to deal with this during the season. Would like to get going now so we know exactly what it is we are up against. I am not a racist person at all but the consensus thus far seems to be that anyone that does not want to change the name is a white racist and i just don't believe this to be true. So check out ...Do NOT change the Redskins name on Facebook and make your voice heard. Thanks for taking the time to read all of that...

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[quote=Mattyk;991441]Griffin isn't a glass doll, I'd wager good money he lasts more than 5 years.

In fact can anyone name a starting QB in the last 25 years that had a career of 5 years or less due to injury?[/quote]

Ryan Leaf. His hurt butt forced his early retirement.

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[quote=44ever;991419]Not really, I believe both QB's are capable and can run the offense effectively without the help of the coaches babying. I just believe Cousins has the ability to last the whole season where RG3 can't.


If you want to hang onto RG3 after what you have seen this season thats fine, I'll save myself the disappointment. Its not just the Knee injury but the concussion as well. The guy is just not gonna last IMO. I wish I was wrong, but Im not.

In any case my original point was the Redskins can win with either QB.[/quote]

I would argue the opposite. We know what we can get from a season of Gryphon.

While Cousins played well during his chances, there have been many QB's who had a good game or two but then had mediocre seasons or even careers. All we know about Cousins is from a few games. We still have no idea what he is like over a full season.

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[quote=Lotus;991451]I would argue the opposite. We know what we can get from a season of Gryphon.

While Cousins played well during his chances, there have been many QB's who had a good game or two but then had mediocre seasons or even careers. All we know about Cousins is from a few games. [B]We still have no idea what he is like over a full season.[/B][/quote]

Agree 100% And I certainly am not trying to make this a "Cult Cousins" thing. I would rather RG3 start but am not afraid to put my trust in Cousins should the need arise as it may have. He was drafted for this very reason and works hard to stay sharp when called on. We should not think it disrespect towards RG3 to embrace our 4th round pick. We should be happy we have them both.