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Pat White or Sexxy Rexy
If Pat White does well this offseason and shows skill during the preseason games who would you like to see on the team, Pat or Rex?
Rex has used this playbook for 4 years going into a 5th. I believe he could be released to be a Qb assistant coach for us. This is a fun discussion during a slow time. |
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I really doubt White can beat out Rex.
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white is just a camp body. our #1-#3 are set. if cousins is super awesome, rex could be a couch sitting reserve, though they'll probably keep him this year.
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As a supporter of Rex when he was competing against Beck, one thought comes to mind: Thank God we're only talking about 3rd string here.
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Rex would have to basically die to lose his roster spot to Pat White
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Maybe if White went all Tanya Harding on Wrecks.
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I'd like to see White but Rex will WIN. We would have to be careful if we released Rex he Knows our whole offense.
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Grossman's value is knowledge of the playbook but, in practice (and in games) he's a useless turnover-machine.
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Pat White isn't making this squad.(not as a QB) Book it.
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If White doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of even being the #3 quarterback behind Griffin III and Cousins, why bring him in? Just to keep him off of the Giants practice squad or the Giants roster wouldn't seem like a good enough reason. White has to have some sort of worth.
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I think Rex is on the team more as a mentor for our young QB's. I would expect him to be on the team for at least one more year.
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As crazy as it is, I'm still hoping we do some crazy stuff with White -- like quadruple option, with RG3 + Morris, and then have White in Brandon Bank's role (with end-around or with a WR screen pass) -- but now with White having the capability to pass if the play falls apart.
With this in mind, wouldn't mind scrapping Rexy to keep White. |
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Neither one of these guys should be on a NFL 53- man roster.
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One has started a SB the other has started...what exactly?
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[quote=FRPLG;1012367]One has started a SB[B] the other has started...what exactly?[/quote][/B]
A lawsuit against the NFL, perhaps? A discussion among Redskins fans about whether or not he should even be on a roster, perhaps? No, I actually like the guy, but I doubt he makes it. |
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[quote=REDSKINS4ever;1012341]If White doesn't have a snowballs chance in hell of even being the #3 quarterback behind Griffin III and Cousins, why bring him in? Just to keep him off of the Giants practice squad or the Giants roster wouldn't seem like a good enough reason. White has to have some sort of worth.[/quote]
His value is a camp arm. I believe we have had 4 qb's every training camp, and with Griffin out during off season, you still wouldn't want only two guys doing all the reps. |
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Grossman is an adequate #2 QB. Pat White is a retread bum. It's no contest.
Rex certainly has that tendency to make bad decisions with the ball but everyone forgets those games when he turns into "Good Rex", where he avoids the turnovers and goes 19-30 for 290 yards and two TDs. He's fine in a role where he can come in relief of an injured QB. He's a disaster in a role when he has a starting job for a sustained period of time, because defenses get tape on him and take advantage of his tendencies. But as a spot starter you could do a lot worse. The good news is we can even do better than Rex as our #2. Cousins might even be a starting caliber QB right now in this league. We have a nice problem - we have multiple quality backup QBs. Let's not overthink it by even considering Pat White a possibility. |
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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1012375]His value is a camp arm. I believe we have had 4 qb's every training camp, and with Griffin out during off season, you still wouldn't want only two guys doing all the reps.[/quote]
Yep. Remember when we signed Marc Verica for camp? He had no chance to make the roster as a QB. But in camp you want receivers to catch a lot of passes...and someone has to be throwing them. |
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they could flip a coin for all I care, if we end up needing either one of them the odds are pretty high our season is in the toilet
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White is a camp arm....Rex knows the Shanny playbook better than anyother player on the team.
Some might see value in White because we are running the read option game, but he ran some wild cat in Miami and found out fast that this aint West Virginia and his athleticism isn't as much at this level. Plus he isn't RGIII he doesn't have the arm, accuracy, smarts, or speed. RGIII has world class speed and even he cant out run everyone and got hit a lot. White already has had injury trouble. Our QB's will be RGIII Captain Kirk and Sexy Rexy |
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Rex didn't take a snap last year, and I don't think he was even on the active roster most of the year. He has averages more than 1.1 interceptions per game he's played in. Sure, he's great as an experienced QB in system, but as the OP stated - in that case he could be a QB coach, and not use a roster spot. Not sure he'd be snapped up by any other team. Leftwich, Leinert, V.Young, Thigpen, T.Edwards, J.Russell, S.Rosenfels are all still available -- so not sure if anyone else would pick Rex up if we let him go..
BUT YES we're probably going to keep Rex as the safe option. But the OP asked if about what could happen if P.White looked good, whether to consider keeping him - and I think it's reasonable to say that he'd at least have a chance. Esp if Griffin is back to normal.. Heck, we took a chance on Banks for years and wasted that roster spot... |
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Pat White is already useless. I believe he was brought in to simulate Griffin in camp while he's out, but RGIII is going to be up to full speed by then.
He'll probably be one of first cuts...I doubt he'll see a preseason snap. Rex is a far better emergency QB than White, or probably anyone else we could bring in. |
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I thought White was coming in to try and be the playmaker that Banks couldn't be, per SS back when we signed him?
I could be wrong. |
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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1013186]I thought White was coming in to try and be the playmaker that Banks couldn't be, per SS back when we signed him?
I could be wrong.[/quote] No. I thought I had clarified what I had said before. Anyway, what I said (or at least meant to say) is that that would be the only he could make the roster. If he showed some skills-outside of QB-that would compel the coaches to keep him |
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MD is probably right, if RG3 is a full go for camp and it seems like he will be, it's hard to imagine White sticking around for too long.
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[quote=SmootSmack;1013194]No. I thought I had clarified what I had said before. Anyway, what I said (or at least meant to say) is that that would be the only he could make the roster. If he showed some skills-outside of QB-that would compel the coaches to keep him[/quote]
Boom... Thanks for the clarification. Then yeah he won't be around long |
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Well... good question...
I'd take Pat White. Anyone over RG1. I don't care that he is older and wiser, he has "ZERO" mobility, is only good for 1 long pass per game. All his passes are 15 yrds or shorter and aimed at the dirt. I'd just prefer to go younger and mobile. But.... Cousins can't go on the practice squad and neither can White so .... so we keep 3 QB's on the roster? I guess they could see who is best between Cousins and White and de-activate which ever one should be third string. |
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[quote=Mattyk;1013203]MD is probably right, if RG3 is a full go for camp and it seems like he will be, it's hard to imagine White sticking around for too long.[/quote]
Personally all White would have to do is show he somewhat understands the playbook, shows he can connect down field more then once in a game, and show he's mobile and can run the spread offense. I picture Grossman gone after preseason. |
[QUOTE=SBXVII;1013285]Personally all White would have to do is show he somewhat understands the playbook, shows he can connect down field more then once in a game, and show he's mobile and can run the spread offense.
[B]I picture Grossman gone after preseason.[/B][/QUOTE] I would bet real money that Rex is on the final 53. |
[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1013287]I would bet real money that Rex is on the final 53.[/QUOTE]
I would bet $100 Monopoly money, nothing more. |
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Your on. I will expect payment in unmarked blue 50's.
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[quote=SBXVII;1013285]Personally all White would have to do is show he somewhat understands the playbook, shows he can connect down field more then once in a game, and show he's mobile and can run the spread offense.
I picture Grossman gone after preseason.[/quote] I believe Grossman will stick around if only to continue being a mentor for RGIII. Plus Pat White was all but done with football until the Skins called. I have a hard time believing he can fix all of his issues (mainly accuracy) in time to beat out a long time vet for a roster spot. |
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i guess this is the answer...neither
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/26/if-rg3-is-healthy-rex-grossman-may-not-make-redskins-roster/]If RG3 is healthy, Rex Grossman may not make Redskins’ roster | ProFootballTalk[/url] |
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[quote=dmek25;1013396]i guess this is the answer...neither
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/26/if-rg3-is-healthy-rex-grossman-may-not-make-redskins-roster/]If RG3 is healthy, Rex Grossman may not make Redskins’ roster | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote] Yeah I agree with this. I had only 2 QBs making the final roster. I think that if RG3 goes down, we put in Cousins and sign Rex back, because theres really no teams in the NFL that want Rex now. And our 'emergency' QB will probably be Jordan Reed who played a little bit of QB at Florida. |
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[quote=dmek25;1013396]i guess this is the answer...neither
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/06/26/if-rg3-is-healthy-rex-grossman-may-not-make-redskins-roster/]If RG3 is healthy, Rex Grossman may not make Redskins’ roster | ProFootballTalk[/url][/quote] Could happen. |
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[quote=CultBrennan59;1013398]Yeah I agree with this. I had only 2 QBs making the final roster. I think that if RG3 goes down, we put in Cousins and sign Rex back, because theres really no teams in the NFL that want Rex now. And our 'emergency' QB will probably be Jordan Reed who played a little bit of QB at Florida.[/quote]
Or place a call to the Rypien house... [img]http://nflredskins.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/angelarypien03.jpg[/img] |
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I don't know why they wouldn't just make Grossman a "consultant" or something, and have him on the staff as a coach (Pending both RG3 and Cousins are healthy), and then if something happens they can sign him.
Grossman has been through a lot in the league, and I don't think it's a bad idea to have him around the two young guys for at least another season. |
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[quote=Mattyk;1013316]I believe Grossman will stick around if only to continue being a mentor for RGIII. Plus Pat White was all but done with football until the Skins called. I have a hard time believing he can fix all of his issues (mainly accuracy) in time to beat out a long time vet for a roster spot.[/quote]
Everyone is quick to point out that he was out of the league for 2 years but fail to point out he has gone to work out with the QB Guru in Cali. All the top named QBs out of college go to him to work out prior to the combine. He was working on technique and accuracy. Another issue is what system did he come from and what system was he asked to work in straight from college? Miami's system period sucked I think. I'm thinking White will do well in our system since it favors his skills which is to roll out options. |
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If cut Rex might not want to retire, a team might take him just to learn our playbook.
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[quote=SBXVII;1013435]Everyone is quick to point out that he was out of the league for 2 years but fail to point out he has gone to work out with the QB Guru in Cali. All the top named QBs out of college go to him to work out prior to the combine. He was working on technique and accuracy.
Another issue is what system did he come from and what system was he asked to work in straight from college? Miami's system period sucked I think. I'm thinking White will do well in our system since it favors his skills which is to roll out options.[/quote] Plenty of guys work out with "gurus", especially guys trying to make last ditch efforts to save their careers. |
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