Thoughts on the NFL
 

Post your thoughts or musings on the NFL, the Redskins, or football in general. Hopefully, this will give us something to discuss during this slow offseason. If this thread is too similar to the "It Remains to be Seen" thread, please delete it, mods. I'm not expecting anybody to answer all of these; just some things to think about.



1. Cincinnati and Houston will play for the AFC championship.

2. The Redskins will finish the regular season at 11-5.

3. Will people ever become so obsessed with safety in football that it will eventually be outlawed or look nothing like the current product?

4. D.J. Hayden will perform the best of all the rookies and will easily make the Pro Bowl.

5. What are the chances that in 10 years the Redskins will have a different name?

6. If you could choose one offensive player, one defensive player, and one special team player to build a long-term team around, who would they be?

7. Which player in the NFL will suffer a career-ending injury this season?

8. I don't think the 49ers are the real deal. I think their success will be over in a year or two.

9. Did any of you play college football? Are any of you closely related to an NFL player?

10. If you could change one thing in the NFL, what would it be?

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[quote=SirLK26;1013848]Post your thoughts or musings on the NFL, the Redskins, or football in general. Hopefully, this will give us something to discuss during this slow offseason. If this thread is too similar to the "It Remains to be Seen" thread, please delete it, mods. I'm not expecting anybody to answer all of these; just some things to think about.



1. Cincinnati and Houston will play for the AFC championship.

2. The Redskins will finish the regular season at 11-5.

[B]3. Will people ever become so obsessed with safety in football that it will eventually be outlawed or look nothing like the current product?
[/B]
4. D.J. Hayden will perform the best of all the rookies and will easily make the Pro Bowl.

5. What are the chances that in 10 years the Redskins will have a different name?

6. If you could choose one offensive player, one defensive player, and one special team player to build a long-term team around, who would they be?

7. Which player in the NFL will suffer a career-ending injury this season?

8. I don't think the 49ers are the real deal. I think their success will be over in a year or two.

9. Did any of you play college football? Are any of you closely related to an NFL player?

10. If you could change one thing in the NFL, what would it be?[/quote]

I honestly think that sometime in the not-near future, football will be played by robots.

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**The Redskins/NFC East have played or beaten the eventual super bowl champion for the past 7 straight years ('12 Ravens, '11 Giants, '10 Packers, '09 Saints, '08 Steelers, '07 Giants, '06 Colts). The NFC East plays Denver, and Green Bay. The Redskins also play San Francisco and Atlanta. So if history should repeat itself, expect either Denver, Green Bay, San Fran or Atlanta to be Super Bowl champions. Or us, of course. (Considering that only 13 teams get to play the eventual super bowl champion every year and there are 32 teams in the league, thats 40.63% of the league, which is kind of a lot, but still interesting that this has been going on for 7 straight years.)


** Expect the Chiefs to be very good this year. This squad faced some major injuries last year and had Matt Cassel as their QB. A smart and more accurate Alex Smith will help this team, add in the fact that their number 1 pick is going to start at RT while Branden Albert holds down the LT position. Plus he has Jamal Charles to run the ball, Dwayne Bowe to catch it, McCluster to run the pistol/wildcat with it. And Moekai and Fasno to catch it. This team looks like they can be the '11 Houston Texans. They already had 5 pro bowlers on their roster.

** Expect the Bears to be the 2nd of maybe even the 1st best team in the NFC North. Jay Cutler never had time to throw. They went out and got Jermon Bushrod as their starting LT, moved Webb to RT, drafted Kyle Long at Guard and signed Matt Slauson as their other guard. This lineup buys Cutler at least another second to throw, which is huge.

** Expect Rambo to start for us and for Chris Horton--I mean Phillip Thomas to come on as the 3rd safety while Meriweather and Rambo hold down the SS and FS positions respectively.

** Also expect Jordan Reed to be our new great Offensive weapon. History has shown in the draft that if Mike Shanahan really likes you, he won't even talk to you come draft time. He did the same thing with Jay Cutler a few years ago. He did the same thing with Jordan Reed this year.

** Don't be surprised if Adam Carriker gets cut. He is taking a long while to get back from his torn quad. Reports have said that things are moving slowly. We owe him over a million for the season.

** Baring injuries, expect Denver and San Fran in the Super Bowl. Those teams were both so close to winning it all last year. Add in they both got More weapons to their already talented rosters. I'm going with Denver since they cut Dumervil, and it always seems that the team who gets rid of one of their best players gets counted out too soon and ends up being that team that goes even further.

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[quote=Lotus;1013851]I honestly think that sometime in the not-near future, football will be played by robots.[/quote]

Are you serious? That would crazy.

[quote]6. If you could choose one offensive player, one defensive player, and one special team player to build a long-term team around, who would they be?[/quote]

I'm not sure.

Offensive player would definitely be RG3.

Defensive player would probably be J.J. Watt.

Special team player would be Blair Walsh or else a really good return man.

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[quote=SirLK26;1013853][B]Are you serious? That would crazy.
[/B]


I'm not sure.

Offensive player would definitely be RG3.

Defensive player would probably be J.J. Watt.

Special team player would be Blair Walsh or else a really good return man.[/quote]

I'm dead serious. But I'm talking about many years down the road.

[IMG]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/06/30/da5a3u8y.jpg[/IMG]

Here is my thoughts on cowboys fans. Lol

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[quote=CultBrennan59;1013852]** Expect the Chiefs to be very good this year. This squad faced some major injuries last year and had Matt Cassel as their QB. A smart and more accurate Alex Smith will help this team, add in the fact that their number 1 pick is going to start at RT while Branden Albert holds down the LT position. Plus he has Jamal Charles to run the ball, Dwayne Bowe to catch it, McCluster to run the pistol/wildcat with it. And Moekai and Fasno to catch it. This team looks like they can be the '11 Houston Texans. They already had 5 pro bowlers on their roster.[/quote]

I agree with this, although I think it will be a few years before they are legitimate Super Bowl contenders. I think they'll finish 9-7 this year and miss the playoffs. After this year, though, I think they'll be really good.

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SmootSmack, I don't really care, but this wasn't intended to be a "news and notes" thread; more of an "opinions" thread. So you didn't need to close the NFL Offseason News. But really it doesn't matter, and you're a mod, so I'm sure it's the right decision.

Nice picture, skinsfaninok. :)

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Well it was time to close that thread and start a new news and notes one. For now I just moved the discussion in here, but why don't you go ahead and start a new one.

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I would not be surprised if the skins make it to the SB ( the key is barring injuries) they made the playoffs despite a ton of injuries which is why they lost. This year they will be much stronger, new and old weapons coming back and making debuts. The Colts will be better than last year also, NE and Denver will underperform, age is catching up to Brady and Manning. Miami, KC, Houston will be contenders.

I'm not a fan of Miami just yet, but I really do like Kansas city this year. I think they may win that division

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1. Andrew Luck has a sophomore slump, but eventually establishes himself as the NFL's best pocket passer.

2. Jordan Reed will be kicked off the Redskins in 3 years because of attitude problems.

3. Will the Redskins beat the Super Bowl champions for the 4th straight year?

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[quote=SirLK26;1013872]1. Andrew Luck has a sophomore slump, but eventually establishes himself as the NFL's best pocket passer.

2. Jordan Reed will be kicked off the Redskins in 3 years because of attitude problems.

3. Will the Redskins beat the Super Bowl champions for the 4th straight year?[/quote]

I am sick of beating the eventual Super Bowl champs... I want to be the SB champs and honestly I believe we will have our chance soon. This year, next, or the year after we will be back to the dance. I firmly believe that.

I do have a question though, I know people were comparing Reed to AH back when that all went down but why do you believe he has attitude problems? I have not ever heard this as being a problem for him and when you think of how he made the transition from QB ( why he was recruited to FL ) to TE/HB/hybrid player with pretty good success. It would seem to me he is a hard worker who slipped due to his raw ability and the perceived ability of those players selected ahead of him in the draft.

[QUOTE=Lotus;1013851]I honestly think that sometime in the not-near future, football will be played by robots.[/QUOTE]

or possibly exo skeletons that allow for individual skills to shine but strengthen protect and enhance the human athlete

[QUOTE=SirLK26;1013872]1. Andrew Luck has a sophomore slump, but eventually establishes himself as the NFL's best pocket passer.

2. Jordan Reed will be kicked off the Redskins in 3 years because of attitude problems.

[B]3. Will the Redskins beat the Super Bowl champions for the 4th straight year?[/B][/QUOTE]

Hard to beat yourself :)

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1013877]Hard to beat yourself :)[/quote]

Eli Manning will collect his 3rd super bowl MVP award .:)

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Robots play soccer.

[url=http://news.yahoo.com/move-over-messi-come-robots-061942057.html]Move over Messi, here come the robots[/url]

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[quote=Giantone;1013881]Eli Manning will collect his 3rd super bowl MVP award .:)[/quote]
I see you didn't say "win", what's he gonna do - go Hernandez on Griffin?

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1013885]I see you didn't say "win", what's he gonna do - go Hernandez on Griffin?[/quote]

Nice. :)

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1013885]I see you didn't say "win", what's he gonna do - go Hernandez on Griffin?[/quote]


To make it clear , he will earn his third Super Bowl MVP award .

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I'll go out on a limb and say neither Baltimore nor Pittsburgh make the playoffs. Not sure when that last happened, but it's been probably at least a decade

I also think changes to the NFL will be so gradual people won't ever really realize. And I think all pro sports leagues will eventually become global in some way. Meaning teams across the pond

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[quote=SmootSmack;1013911]I'll go out on a limb and say neither Baltimore nor Pittsburgh make the playoffs. Not sure when that last happened, but it's been probably at least a decade

I also think changes to the NFL will be so gradual people won't ever really realize. And I think all pro sports leagues will eventually become global in some way. Meaning teams across the pond[/quote]
At least somebody believes that the Cleveland Browns will Win the Division this year !!!!! I would be surprised honestly if neither makes the playoffs , I hope you are right though. Interesting thought on global sports , now we can whip China , Russia and the rest of them once a year !

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Bengals should win the North, but I dont think it will be a cake walk. Id see Cleveland, Baltimore and Pittsburg all being .500 teams.

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[quote=SirLK26;1013872]1. Andrew Luck has a sophomore slump, but eventually establishes himself as the NFL's best pocket passer.

2[B]. Jordan Reed will be kicked off the Redskins in 3 years because of attitude problems.[/B]

3. Will the Redskins beat the Super Bowl champions for the 4th straight year?[/quote]

WTF! Do you think you know something about his character that led you to that conclusion?

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1013949]WTF! Do you think you know something about his character that led you to that conclusion?[/quote]

The only thing I can find on JR is that he was supposedly benched the rest of the sugar bowl, some say because Mushchamp was questioning his heart, others say that he got into an argument with Mushchamp, and JR says that they took him out because was injured.

[url=http://www.rotoworld.com/recent/cfb/130984/jordan-reed]Recent news on Jordan Reed - Florida Gators - Rotoworld.com[/url]

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1606109-jordan-reed-5-things-you-need-to-know-about-the-florida-te/page/6]Jordan Reed: 5 Things You Need to Know About the Florida TE | Bleacher Report[/url]

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[quote=SirLK26;1013848]Post your thoughts or musings on the NFL, the Redskins, or football in general. Hopefully, this will give us something to discuss during this slow offseason. If this thread is too similar to the "It Remains to be Seen" thread, please delete it, mods. I'm not expecting anybody to answer all of these; just some things to think about.



1. Cincinnati and Houston will play for the AFC championship.

2. The Redskins will finish the regular season at 11-5.

[B]3. Will people ever become so obsessed with safety in football that it will eventually be outlawed or look nothing like the current product[/B]?

4. D.J. Hayden will perform the best of all the rookies and will easily make the Pro Bowl.

5. What are the chances that in 10 years the Redskins will have a different name?

6. If you could choose one offensive player, one defensive player, and one special team player to build a long-term team around, who would they be?

7. Which player in the NFL will suffer a career-ending injury this season?

8. I don't think the 49ers are the real deal. I think their success will be over in a year or two.

9. Did any of you play college football? Are any of you closely related to an NFL player?

10. If you could change one thing in the NFL, what would it be?[/quote]

The over pussification of the league has gotten so out of hand. I honestly think the league would want flags put on the QB's. Games now can and are being decided by calls of the refs. For the most part, they got it right in the Super Bowl and hopefully we'll see more game called like that one. But I doubt it.

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1) The Giants will win the division, but the Redskins will be a wildcard and beat the Giants in their stadium.

2) Either Pittsburgh, New England, or Houston will represent the AFC in the superbowl. It depends which team has their key player healthy (Big Ben, Gronk, and Cushing). Everyone has counted them out so I like their chances.

3) Everybody will jump on the Broncos bandwagon, which they already seem to be according to SI and ESPN, they will go 12-4 and will be one and done in the playoffs. Just like the Peyton Manning led Colts.

4) 49ers will not win the NFC West.

5) Chiefs make the playoffs

6) Drew Brees wins the NFL regular season MVP. Saints will be 13-3 or 12-4.

7) Eagles start 5-1, finish 6-10.

8) Once the season is over, a major player with superstar status will come out and tell the world he is gay.

9) This superbowl will have more people watch it than any other superbowl in NFL history.

10) The last team to win the last game of the NFL season will be the superbowl champion.

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[quote=artmonkforhallofamein07;1013873]I am sick of beating the eventual Super Bowl champs... I want to be the SB champs and honestly I believe we will have our chance soon. This year, next, or the year after we will be back to the dance. I firmly believe that.
[B]
I do have a question though, I know people were comparing Reed to AH back when that all went down but why do you believe he has attitude problems? I have not ever heard this as being a problem for him and when you think of how he made the transition from QB ( why he was recruited to FL ) to TE/HB/hybrid player with pretty good success. It would seem to me he is a hard worker who slipped due to his raw ability and the perceived ability of those players selected ahead of him in the draft.[/B][/quote]

I'm not predicting it's going to happen, it's just something I've been wondering about. [B]But[/B], there are a few things that have made me wonder. Jordan Reed says he learned to play TE by watching Aaron Hernandez play. Now, that probably doesn't mean much, but still...

[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/04/29/jordan-reed-learned-how-to-play-tight-end-by-watching-hernandez-witten/]Jordan Reed Learned How to Play Tight End by Watching Hernandez, Witten « CBS DC[/url]

Reed also had attitude problems at Florida, which put him on the bench a few times. He's complained about how hard the Redskins' playbook is, and he's also voiced his displeasure that the team has so many meetings. Like I said, I'm not saying it's going to happen, but there is the possibility.

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[quote=donofriose;1013962]7) Eagles start 5-1, finish 6-10.

9) This superbowl will have more people watch it than any other superbowl in NFL history.

10) The last team to win the last game of the NFL season will be the superbowl champion.[/quote]

7. I actually think this is pretty accurate. The Eagles will come out firing with their new high-powered offense, but defenses will quickly figure it out. The Redskins will be only team in that 5-1 stretch who beats them.

9. I agree, because it will have one the most exciting quarterbacks(RG3), the NFL's leading rusher(Morris), and an emotional leader on defense who's trying to win a Super Bowl just before he retires(Fletcher).

10. No s***, Sherlock.

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[quote=SirLK26;1013963]I'm not predicting it's going to happen, it's just something I've been wondering about. [B]But[/B], there are a few things that have made me wonder. Jordan Reed says he learned to play TE by watching Aaron Hernandez play. Now, that probably doesn't mean much, but still...

[url=http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/04/29/jordan-reed-learned-how-to-play-tight-end-by-watching-hernandez-witten/]Jordan Reed Learned How to Play Tight End by Watching Hernandez, Witten « CBS DC[/url]

Reed also had attitude problems at Florida, which put him on the bench a few times. He's complained about how hard the Redskins' playbook is, and he's also voiced his displeasure that the team has so many meetings. Like I said, I'm not saying it's going to happen, but there is the possibility.[/quote]

When did he complain about the playbook or voice his displeasure about too many meetings?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1013969]When did he complain about the playbook or voice his displeasure about too many meetings?[/quote]

This is my bad. I should have checked my sources before I posted that, and made sure I was 100% right. :banghead: I heard this from a guy on another Redskins board, and I took it as fact. In his words, [quote] He seems really defensive when he's interviewed. He was very surprised about all of the meetings he had to attend during the OTAs. He also mentioned that the playbook is very complicated and it is the coaching staff's responsibility to "coach him up". That doesn't sound to me like he is used to taking personal initiative. He was benched at Florida several times for having attitude problems. Maybe its a "me first" thing, or maybe he has problems with authority.[/quote]
He posted basically the same thing twice, but said he couldn't find the video in which Reed was interviewed.

I'll search for it.

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I see nothing wrong with Reed's comments

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[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/redskins-sign-draft-pick-jordan-reed]Redskins sign draft pick Jordan Reed | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]

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I don't think this is the video he was talking about, but I couldn't find any video in which Reed said anything harmful or any thing that would be cause for concern. Reed's "attitude problem" is probably nothing at all.

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[quote=SmootSmack;1013976]I see nothing wrong with Reed's comments

[YT]ammaKQxA_eY[/YT]

[URL="http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/redskins-sign-draft-pick-jordan-reed"]Redskins sign draft pick Jordan Reed | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/URL][/quote]


good video, thanks ss

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[quote=SirLK26;1013848]Post your thoughts or musings on the NFL, the Redskins, or football in general. Hopefully, this will give us something to discuss during this slow offseason. If this thread is too similar to the "It Remains to be Seen" thread, please delete it, mods. I'm not expecting anybody to answer all of these; just some things to think about.



1. Cincinnati and Houston will play for the AFC championship.

2. The Redskins will finish the regular season at 11-5.

[B]3. Will people ever become so obsessed with safety in football that it will eventually be outlawed or look nothing like the current product?
[/B]
4. D.J. Hayden will perform the best of all the rookies and will easily make the Pro Bowl.

5. What are the chances that in 10 years the Redskins will have a different name?

6. If you could choose one offensive player, one defensive player, and one special team player to build a long-term team around, who would they be?

7. Which player in the NFL will suffer a career-ending injury this season?

8. I don't think the 49ers are the real deal. I think their success will be over in a year or two.

9. Did any of you play college football? Are any of you closely related to an NFL player?

10. If you could change one thing in the NFL, what would it be?[/quote]

I don't think there is anything wrong with what the league is doing in terms of safety. I believe not long after the birth of football, passing was implemented for safety reasons. So the game has been evolving ever since its beginnings, and will continue to evolve.

In the end, the owners are the ones that empower the Commish to make these changes. I highly doubt that they would do anything to drastically affect the game to the point where it would lose its popularity. I don't know much about boxing, but I don't think it has change that much and look where it stands in terms of popularity.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1013877]Hard to beat yourself :)[/quote]

I've watched numerous games where we have beaten ourselves

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[quote=SOUL-SKINS;1013983]I've watched numerous games where we have beaten ourselves[/quote]

and still won the sb?

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[quote=Ruhskins;1013981]I don't think there is anything wrong with what the league is doing in terms of safety. I believe not long after the birth of football, passing was implemented for safety reasons. So the game has been evolving ever since its beginnings, and will continue to evolve.

In the end, the owners are the ones that empower the Commish to make these changes. I highly doubt that they would do anything to drastically affect the game to the point where it would lose its popularity. I don't know much about boxing, but I don't think it has change that much and look where it stands in terms of popularity.[/quote]

I hope you're right, Ruhskins. But the league has steadily gotten safer and safer and eventually it might be too safe. I hope the NFL never degrades far enough that injuries are completely gone. That might sound a bit cynical, but there should always be an element of danger involved in football, in my opinion. Football players playing through injury have provided some of the most inspiring moments in sports.


[quote]6. If you could choose one offensive player, one defensive player, and one special team player to build a long-term team around, who would they be?[/quote]

What about this question? Who would you all choose?

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[quote=SirLK26;1013989]I hope you're right, Ruhskins. But the league has steadily gotten safer and safer and eventually it might be too safe. I hope the NFL never degrades far enough that injuries are completely gone. That might sound a bit cynical, [B]but there should always be an element of danger involved[/B] in football, in my opinion. Football players playing through injury have provided some of the most inspiring moments in sports.
[/quote]

So a player breaking a leg or tearing every ligament in their knee doesn't count as dangerous injury? I think that given the speed of the game, it is not possible to make the game 100% safe. However, that shouldn't stop the league from preventing morons like James Harrison from tackling players head first.

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[quote=Ruhskins;1013999]So a player breaking a leg or tearing every ligament in their knee doesn't count as dangerous injury? I think that given the speed of the game, it is not possible to make the game 100% safe. However, that shouldn't stop the league from preventing morons like James Harrison from tackling players head first.[/quote]

I know the NFL still has dangerous injuries. I'm saying I hope the NFL never degrades far enough that the element of danger is taken out. And yes, I agree with you about head hits. I would be very happy if concussions would be completely eliminated.