Predict Your 2013 Redskins Record (pre-training camp edition)
 

Since we are bringing back 21 of 22 starters, and the main rookie/FA challengers are clear, I think that everyone ought to have a pretty good feeling for what their expectations for the regular season are. I would even say that to me it seems obvious that Griffin will be a go by game 1, but definitely no later than our bye week which is when the schedule really starts to grind.

Last season we went 5-1 against the division, and I expect we won't do worse than 4-2 this year. It's also the first time we play a first place schedule, which basically means we get the Falcons not the Bucs, and the Seahawks not the Cardinals. We played and lost to both the Falcons and Seahawks last year, so it's not an insignificant switch. But I think we win both those games with a healthy Griffin(oh how key that sentence is this year).

Several magazines have us placing fourth which is absolutely incomprehensible to me.

Basically for the purposes of the poll I put our floor at 8-8, if any one sees us worse than that, as Ricky Ricardo used to say, You've got some 'splaining to do.

I do think we could top out around 13-3, but being a Skins fan and not wanting to sound to homeresque, I'll say 11-5, 2 being division losses, 2 being teams we would be expected to beat but somehow beat ourselves, and 1 where the team just outplayed us from the start, no division team will outplay us from the start, and we will sweep the Giants this year.

Let's hear your thoughts, and any specific wins/losses you are willing to predict now.

This poll is public.

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11-5 is how I see it to. I think our offense will give the league something else to figure out & our defense will step up a lot of guys in contract years.

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Im gonna say 10-4...and leave the last 2 games to chance.

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[quote=chico23231;1014902]im gonna say 10-4...and leave the last 2 games to chance.[/quote]

lol.

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[quote=Chico23231;1014902]Im gonna say 10-4...and leave the last 2 games to chance.[/quote]

Brilliant. I changed it though

And I'll go with 12-4

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I;m going 12-4.

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9-7, NFC East Champs.

I don't think we'll do a ton of winning outside of the division, but a 4-2 in house effort should get the job done.

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10-6 and barely beat out dallas for the division crown. I do see us in the NFC Title game

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12-4
NFCE champs
first round playoff bye
lose in NFC championship
win Super Bowl next year

booyah

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12-4 means RG3 doesnt miss anytime and our Defense takes the jump from middle of the pack to top 5 or just outside of top 5...I would love to see it, but...

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Still going 9-7, but I save the right to revise that once I see our secondary a little bit more in training camp. We have some very difficult games @ GB, @ ATL, @ Denver which I have "budgeted" for losses. By rule, I always just have us splitting the NFC East, so there is 6 right there.

However, if I see the improvement on our defense stay consistent with the young additions/returns of Merriweather and hopefully Jackson, then my thoughts change pretty quickly into 11-5.

(I'm also always very pessimistic, but Rg3 is starting to change that)

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It's not that we're not talented enough to win 12 games. We are. But I think a lot of people are expecting the seven game winning streak to continue indefinitely which is leading to a lot of really high predictions for a team that didn't really improve (or have the means to improve) in the offseason.

I am predicting that the days of beginning every. single. year. 3-6 are now over. I think we're too good to slump like that right out of the gate. And the other thing we have going for us is after years and years of playing a gauntlet schedule, the NFC East is no longer that tough, meaning we draw our six most critical games against a below average slate of opponents.

But the rules of the NFL suggest that 75% of the teams are going to trend towards 8-8 from whatever their previous record was. We were 10-7 last year, and it's hard to see us winning 10 of the first 16 again. Again, not impossible...and if you guaranteed me that RG3 starting every game this year, then I think 10 wins becomes likely. But we don't know what we're going to get out of him in year two and I can't base a prediction that a team will overachieve its talent based on just a second year player.

Although in the case where Griffin is healthy for every game and starts tearing down franchise passing records...yeah, then we'll win 12+ games (and likely go 6-0 in the division).

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11-5 +/-1, if rg3 gets hurt, it's all out the window though.

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The poll is also really skewed because there's such a high probability (40-45%) that the Redskins win 8 or fewer games that anyone who votes that way is going to look like they're picking the Redskins to go 1-15.

I mean, there's basically no chance at all that the Redskins go worse than 4-12. But 8-8? That's not the same thing.

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11-5. I look at our schedule and see Atlanta, San Fran, Denver, Green Bay as well as the rest of the NFC East and see 5 losses. But of course there is always a game or two we look at and say "Oh thats a win" which ends up being a loss and vice versa. I think we beat a couple of those tough teams I listed above, like San Fran and Green Bay, but lose to a team like Kansas City or San Diego or Chicago or even Philly.

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i voted 8-8 or less [B]at this point[/B].

very very worried about RG3's knee ... still cannot believe they allowed him to go back in after the our first TD.

dr. andrews saying RG3 is like AP in that they are physical specimens and recover much quicker than your average athlete but ... alot of rg3's success depends on his knees and agility.

.... and our secondary is still suspect until proven otherwise.

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[quote=over the mountain;1014958]i voted 8-8 or less [B]at this point[/B].

very very worried about RG3's knee ... still cannot believe they allowed him to go back in after the our first TD.

dr. andrews saying RG3 is like AP in that they are physical specimens and recover much quicker than your average athlete but ... alot of rg3's success depends on his knees and agility.

.... and our secondary is still suspect until proven otherwise.[/quote]

To me; its not really his knee now. I'm pretty sure he's gonna come back 100% and better than ever....

My concern is his ability to protect himself. He MUST do a better job of protecting himself this year and going forward or he'll be out of the league in 5 years.

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11-5 or better.

RG3's knee won't be an issue. The D will be improved with what we've added in the secondary and guys like Orakpo coming back from injury. Everyone is back on offense and I bet the coaches have plenty of new wrinkles up their sleeves.

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12 - 4, forget about what a team looks like on the schedule.

Everyone (except me and maybe one or two others) had NO as a loss last season and we know how that went.

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11-5.

We're definitely better than last season with all our injured players back, but I don't think our defense is going to be so improved that the team takes a huge step forward. I could see us going 13-3 or better if RG3 is healthy the whole season and Orakpo, Meriweather, and maybe one of the rookie DBs plays really well. A little luck would be needed also for a finish above 13-3.

I also think we'll score 432 points, win the division, and eventually lose in the NFC championship game.

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Can I say a [b][I]nervous[/I][/b] 11-5? If healthy, we're in the discussion for one of the top 3 teams in the NFC. We will surely be tested by playing 3 of the other top 5 teams in the NFC (Atlanta, GB, SF) with two on the road. Maybe I'm hating a little bit but I'm not all gaga over Seattle like some people are. If RG doesn't go down early, we kick their ass all over FedEx. If we can go 2-1 against the 3 elite NFC teams, we're going to be a force to be reckoned with in January.

We can score with anyone but will we be able to stop teams when the game is on the line. My prediction boils down to health on both lines, specifically Silverback and Coefield. If we have another fortunate season with them staying on the field and productive plus the return of Rak, Carriker and Merriweather, the sky is the limit.

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10-6.
I think the Defense getting healthy and the Offense staying intact with a TE game again will be huge, however, the schedule makers did us no favors with a week 5 bye week and weeks 9 and 10 are going to be brutal (thanks a lot dumbass Thursday Night Football and Gnar-eelo).

Packers, Lions, Broncos, 49ers, Falcons are uphill games IMO, but any given sunday really.

The bright side is that the NFCE is up for grabs every year. Do the Skins want it? Can they make thru the fire?

I say it starts with letting Kirk carry the momentum of the preseason and starting week 1 @ HOME !!!! and let Shanahan learn the lesson that Robert is valuable but more importantly mortal, so we need to play team ball and not depend on RG3. Until they rip it away, the name is still Redskins.

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I've also invested in 2 things: 1. Trust in Kyle that his days in Houston was not a mistake and that he can implement a dominant passing game. 2. That Haslett will not have to blitz 10 guys on a 3rd and 30, but can get the job done.

Is this a contract year for Mike, Kyle, and Haslett? I did hear last summer Haslet was extended but I didn't know if that was damage control hoopla?

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'Skins should win the NFCE and I'll say 9-7 simply because of the first place schedule this season.

Philly will be better and I pick them for second in the NFCE
Dallas, same story, borderline medocrity.
NYG will be a different team and will struggle to string wins together.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1014981]'Skins should win the NFCE and I'll say 9-7 simply because of the first place schedule this season.

Philly will be better and I pick them for second in the NFCE
[B]Dallas, same story, borderline medocrity.[/B]
NYG will be a different team and will struggle to string wins together.[/quote]

And people say you're not objective.

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1014981]'Skins should win the NFCE and I'll say 9-7 simply because of the first place schedule this season.

Philly will be better and I pick them for second in the NFCE
Dallas, same story, borderline medocrity.
NYG will be a different team and will struggle to string wins together.[/quote]


Dallas will finish 2nd and at 9-7 IMO

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1014981]'Skins should win the NFCE and I'll say 9-7 simply because of the first place schedule this season.

Philly will be better and I pick them for second in the NFCE
Dallas, same story, borderline medocrity.
[B]NYG will be a different team and will struggle to string wins together.[/B][/quote]

Why do you say that?

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[quote=Lotus;1014987]Why do you say that?[/quote]

I think it will be because of defense, but offensively they always find away. Good coaching.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1014932]The poll is also really skewed because[B] there's such a high probability (40-45%) that the Redskins win 8[/B] or fewer games that anyone who votes that way is going to look like they're picking the Redskins to go 1-15.

I mean, there's basically no chance at all that the Redskins go worse than 4-12. But 8-8? That's not the same thing.[/quote]

Defend the bolded statement.

We went 5-1 in division last year, and I don't think any of the other teams improved markedly. I would say all 3 likely are the same or worse than last year.

In addition we play the AFC East, sorry two of those teams are wins, not saying which two, just that we will split. So if we go 3-3 in division, and 2-2 in AFC (both low in my mind), then we need 3 wins against the north, and Seattle, Atlanta to go 8-8. No way that probability of going 8-8 or worse is 40-45%.

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1015011]Defend the bolded statement.

We went 5-1 in division last year, and I don't think any of the other teams improved markedly. I would say all 3 likely are the same or worse than last year.

In addition we play the AFC East, sorry two of those teams are wins, not saying which two, just that we will split. So if we go 3-3 in division, and 2-2 in AFC (both low in my mind), then we need 3 wins against the north, and Seattle, Atlanta to go 8-8. No way that probability of going 8-8 or worse is 40-45%.[/quote]

I think he just means the probability of finishing anywhere between 0-16 and 8-8 is higher than say just 11-5. I'm no math major, but I think that's what he's saying

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I read GTripp to say that the floor of the poll should be 4 wins, not 8.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1014985]And people say you're not objective.[/quote]

Well after 17 years of suckage, it has to sink in eventually.

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[quote=Lotus;1014987]Why do you say that?[/quote]
G-Men have hung their hat on a very good defensive front 7 that was able to get pressure up front without the blitz.

But I look at the transactions and players in those positions now and it is just a different group.

Umenyiora - Gone
Canty - Gone
Boley - Gone

They were able to keep Kiwanuka but their best pass rusher, JPP, may or may not be ready for camp and may even start the season on the PUP due to back surgery he had in June. They added Dan Conner, but that is nothing to shout about. It should tell you something that Conner was signed as a FA last season and was released after only one season and could not get into the rotation.

And still no long term answer at the Safety position.

Of the 6 OGs, only 2 players have greater than 2 years experience (Snee & Boothe). Of the remaining 4, only 1 player has 2 years experience.

One of Eli's best targets of 2012 (Bennet) left for Chicago.

So, to me, anyway, they will look different on both sides of the ball.

Bright spot is, of course, the coaching and they are always capable of winning.

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I agree with st, thats y i think dallas finishes ahead of ny

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[quote=sandtrapjack;1015083]G-Men have hung their hat on a very good defensive front 7 that was able to get pressure up front without the blitz.

But I look at the transactions and players in those positions now and it is just a different group.

Umenyiora - Gone
Canty - Gone
Boley - Gone

They were able to keep Kiwanuka but their best pass rusher, JPP, may or may not be ready for camp and may even start the season on the PUP due to back surgery he had in June. They added Dan Conner, but that is nothing to shout about. It should tell you something that Conner was signed as a FA last season and was released after only one season and could not get into the rotation.

And still no long term answer at the Safety position.

Of the 6 OGs, only 2 players have greater than 2 years experience (Snee & Boothe). Of the remaining 4, only 1 player has 2 years experience.

One of Eli's best targets of 2012 (Bennet) left for Chicago.

So, to me, anyway, they will look different on both sides of the ball.

Bright spot is, of course, the coaching and they are always capable of winning.[/quote]

Good answer. I hope that you turn out to be correct.

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9-7

RGIII's knee concerns me as does his durability and this team isnt the same without him.

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Skins 9 - 7
Boys 8 -8
Gmen 7 - 9
Iggles 6 - 10

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Why do people seem to think the Redskins will take a step back this year? I just don't see us having a worse record; several key players are back from injury, we have a rookie class with lots of potential, RG3 and Morris have NFL experience...

The only possibly negative things I can think of are:

1. A tougher schedule, but I don't think that will be a problem. It will just make us a better team for the playoffs.

2. Teams now have a full season of tape on our offense. Again, not much of a problem. Shanahan has said the playbook will evolve.

3. RG3's knee. He'll know how to protect himself better now, and even if he does get hurt, Cousins proved last season he can lead the team.

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[quote=SirLK26;1015130]Why do people seem to think the Redskins will take a step back this year? I just don't see us having a worse record; several key players are back from injury, we have a rookie class with lots of potential, RG3 and Morris have NFL experience...

The only possibly negative things I can think of are:

1. A tougher schedule, but I don't think that will be a problem. It will just make us a better team for the playoffs.

2. Teams now have a full season of tape on our offense. Again, not much of a problem. Shanahan has said the playbook will evolve.

3. RG3's knee. He'll know how to protect himself better now, and even if he does get hurt, Cousins proved last season he can lead the team.[/quote]

Yes those would be major reasons why. Just because we've been hearing great things about RG3s knee, doesn't mean know there won't be any setbacks or it'll affect his playing style. Also the NFC East is still a tough division so anything can happen. NFC East teams just don't repeat that easily. Also a lot of people are stuck with the old redskin teams in mind (2000's) that would do good or go to the playoffs then the next year they'd be in the bottom of the league again. Also our secondary sucked last year. We got some good (potentially) rookies, but at the end of the day, they are rookies.

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