Plax, Brown, and the draft, oh the possibilities
 

I read somewhere recently that Plaxico Burress has fired agent Michael Harrison and is in the market to hire redskins friendly Drew and Jason Rosenhaus, could he have an intrest in suiting up with the burgundy and gold? An encentive based contract may be right down our alley he could be a possibilty for us.

Courtney brown will be released on Monday. Although it is said that browns gm savage wants to resign him at a lower cost, he could still come to the skins, be reunited with Pennstate teamate Arington, and a be with a Defensive coach in Williams who is known for resurrecting careers for players. It would be in his best intrest to become a skin.

Last but not least Boulware of the Ravens might end up being traded. He is the most unlikely senario because like Barrow he missed last season because of injury. However for one second imagine the possibilities if the skin traded gardner for Boulware and a 5th round pick. we restructure his deal to a cap friendly extension. If he and Barrow were able to come back healthy we could run a rotation that would extend the shelf life of our line backers and have one of the most dynamics defenses in history.

Man I love the possibilities of free agentcy.

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I also read in the post that the trade of Gardner would create much needed cap room. I feel we may not be completly done yet

Re: Plax, Brown, and the draft, oh the possibilities
 

[QUOTE=diehardskin2982]I read somewhere recently that Plaxico Burress has fired agent Michael Harrison and is in the market to hire redskins friendly Drew and Jason Rosenhaus, could he have an intrest in suiting up with the burgundy and gold? An encentive based contract may be right down our alley he could be a possibilty for us.

Courtney brown will be released on Monday. Although it is said that browns gm savage wants to resign him at a lower cost, he could still come to the skins, be reunited with Pennstate teamate Arington, and a be with a Defensive coach in Williams who is known for resurrecting careers for players. It would be in his best intrest to become a skin.

Last but not least Boulware of the Ravens might end up being traded. He is the most unlikely senario because like Barrow he missed last season because of injury. However for one second imagine the possibilities if the skin traded gardner for Boulware and a 5th round pick. we restructure his deal to a cap friendly extension. If he and Barrow were able to come back healthy we could run a rotation that would extend the shelf life of our line backers and have one of the most dynamics defenses in history.

Man I love the possibilities of free agentcy.[/QUOTE]


Boulware is an outside LB we are set in that area, I don't see any need for an OLB whatsoever.

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We would never trade for Boulware.

Courtney Brown sucks.

Plaxico Burress sucks. He can't run routes to save his life, and he has a horrible attitude. I don't want any of these guys.

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I'm going to say no and no to the Burress and Bolware options. I am intrigued by Courtney Brown though. It really depends what cost he would sign for; I would give him no more than a Million a year; but if we gave him a short, incentive based contract, I actually would like to see him come here. I think he could be a upgrade, if he could stay healthy. Remember that was the big knock on Springs last year and he turned out great, I would deifntly take a shot on him if its a low cost.

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Most definitely. I think that we are still going to take a WR in the draft so a Plax signing might be overkill, especially for the price he might bring (even if it is small).

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burress is a headache waiting to happen. plus, he is looking for a 1 year deal to showcase himself in the hope of getting a megadeal after next year. plus, i think he is looking to go to someone like philly who is a superbowl contender. i would rather have gardner back than burress.

bouleware was less productive than hartwell and will cost a mint to sign long term. besides, why do we need another outside linebacker?

i do not think there is anyone still out there that the skins "must" have. we need to focus on the upcoming draft and stockpile picks if we can by trading gardner.

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[QUOTE=Gmanc711]I'm going to say no and no to the Burress and Bolware options. I am intrigued by Courtney Brown though. It really depends what cost he would sign for; I would give him no more than a Million a year; but if we gave him a short, incentive based contract, I actually would like to see him come here. I think he could be a upgrade, if he could stay healthy. Remember that was the big knock on Springs last year and he turned out great, I would deifntly take a shot on him if its a low cost.[/QUOTE]

Courtney Brown is another Philip Daniels, aka, never healthy - if he comes cheap, that's one thing, but I wouldn't even give him what we gave Daniels.

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Daniels was a pretty healthy fellow, in general, before this season. I do agree that I wouldn't give him what we gave Daniels. We also need to remember that Williams works VERY well with what he haves. Just having back some of our injured starters from last year will make a huge difference.

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as far as us signing plax goes, i think the skins have no interest in him even if drew rosenhaus is his agent. if you haven't noticed by now, drew rosenhaus is the biggest agent out there. he has more clients than teams have players. he represents about ninety more players than any other agent, so its not going to matter if he is plax's agent or not. and plax would be another future bust. he's not that great, i would say him and gardner are the same, and we are looking to trade gardner. he represents another high profile free agent we sign that turns out to be crap.

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Not only that, we don't need showboats trying to get their payday a year after we sign them. We are looking for core players, not one hit wonders.

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[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32265-2005Mar13.html[/url]

Look's like we're eyeing Brown.

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Brown is a gamble with a huge payoff potential, the flipside is someone to keep the IR list occupied.

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You think we can get him for a decent price??

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noooooooo. i just read that washington post article. why, why, why? this is a boneheaded move if the skins actually did this. thank heaven we selected arrington, and they selected brown. if we were to sign him, i would suggest a low salary contract, something near the minimum, with performance based incentives. say, if he didn't get hurt and had a breakout season, then we would pay him more. until then, let him waste away in free agency.

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If he comes cheap he's a worthwhile gamble. There's no way he's going to get much of a contract from anyone, so I wouldn't worry about breaking the bank on him.

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yeah i hope your right matt, and i hope he lowers his asking price to the minimum because he has never proved that he's worth the contract he got from the browns.

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browns are offering 2mill for one year... so we'd have to match that... greg williams has the same agent though, and we've got a much better defense to showcase him in...

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Courtney Brown is ALWAYS hurt, plus he sucks. Don't be fooled.

Same with Plaxico: he's got a terrible attitude, and is a locker room cancer.

I hope we just keep a low profile, draft some good young players, and let Gibbs and Williams do their motivational magic on young, hardworking, unproven players who want to win.

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I could see him excepting a 1 year deal from us to showcase his talents under William's to try and earn a big contract the following season, the problem is this guy I do not believe has been unlucky with injuries, he's injury prone, the difference is his body just can't stand up to the rigor's of the NFL, but for a minimum contract filled with incentives he would be worth a look.

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I think that if we could get Brown he would be a good fit for rotation. That way he would stay healthy for the whole season and keep our DE's fresh for the whole game. Also maybe getting him back with LaVar may spark something and Brown might become more productive.

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According to the Washington Post we are interested in Brown but will have to pay him $2m per season cos Cleveland are leaving an offer like that for him even after he is cut.

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I wouldn't be interested in him at that price since he's had a history of spending more time on the bench hurt than anything. I agree with everyone else at this point: league minimum with incentives- let him earn a big paycheck. Hell that's actually not a bad idea for the entire NFL- players should play to earn their paycheck- BRILLIANT!

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When I heard he was going to be cut, I immediately thought it would be a good signing for us if we could get him relatively cheap. We have a good scheme, a great d-coordinator... It could be a good gamble on a player with a big upside...

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Anyone not think he would command a HUGE contract? I WOULD love the scenario of signing him to a short minimal contract, NOT a one-year deal.

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Apparently, the Browns are keeping their current (rejected) offer on the table - which is a $2 million average. We would have to exceed that number, one would imagine.

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And we have just over 2 mil in cap room (assuming Gardner's departure)??

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He could really benefit from a change in scenery. He doesn't have much leverage when it comes to contract negotiations, he should come relatively cheap.

Blache worked wonders for our D-lineman last year, hopefully Brown will consider that when looking for a place to play.

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That's excellent to hear he doesn't have any leverage. I would just like to sign him for more than a one-year deal, even though I would think that is what he would want.

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Four year deal with minimum base salaries this year and next with a 4 mil signing bonus works decent. something like below might do it. if he stays healthy then one assumes he would be productive. this type of money for a productive guy would be great, this is not bad contract. if he is not healthy it is no big deal to cut him in 2007.
2005 2006 2007 2008
sal 540 1040 1500 2000
sb 500 500 500 500
ob - - 500 500
cap 1040 1540 2500 3000

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Maybe make the final two years voidable by him based on playing time and the final two roster bonuses playing time based. Throws him a bone so that if he plays well and stays healthy he can get paid and it helps us mitigate his injury risk. Seems fair to me. Hell if he stays in average health then it is a deal for sure. Fire up Redksin 1 Danny boy. Make it happen.

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I am guessing he won't want anything more than a 1 or 2 year deal though.

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Sounds like a plan to me FRPLG...

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Plax has character and attitude issues.......

I'm not sold on Brown..........unhealthy........

If these were our choices, I think we need to save our remaining cap room...........

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I agree. However, if somehow the price on Brown were to drop, I'd look at taking a chance.

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like i said before, performance based incentives. if he stayed healthy the whole year and had a good season, not a great one, that we could give him some p.b.i.'s. if he got injured and missed half the year, i would suggest a little extra money. if he got injured in preseason and missed the whole damn year give him nothing. i heard somewhere that a player can get p.b.i.'s based on how well the defense or offense does. i wouldn't do that in case he got hurt and our defense finished 1st or second overall cuz he would get paid. give him something that says if he gets five sacks, 50 tackles, and 10 tackles for a loss give him an extra two million. that is asking a lot from an injury prone guy.

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fiore, barrow, daniels... the list goes on... harris and springs turned out alright, but they aren't on the "totally breaking down" stage of their careers yet... even at 28, this guy might be.