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Ran across this on espn.com. This may be a low level type of resiging; but I'm very excited to see what Williams can do with this kid. He came up with a few big plays last year; so hopefully we can get some good production here.

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thats a smart move by the skins. i think this guy could turn out to be a pretty good ball player.

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hmmm, I wonder if this means they dont think they will get brown...That or its a contract that basically just allows him to try out for the team.

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this was the same tender they offfered him like a month ago, he just signed it

this was the exclusive rights tender

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Outstanding- Clemons is a PLAYER

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Great, I like Clemons. Wish we weren't so saturated at the LB position so we could see more of him!

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I just like him as the 3rd down rushing back. The dude is FAST.

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I am a huge Clemons fan, realllll glad we have him back. Also I saw we signed Gari Scott. Scott would be a nice PR/KR plus we have Brown do you think this means we will cut Morton after June 1st? I think Morton is a waste of cap personally.

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I'd at least give Morton a chance to prove himself. No point in taking the hit if we could have TWO great return men.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]I'd at least give Morton a chance to prove himself. No point in taking the hit if we could have TWO great return men.[/QUOTE]


I'm with you there. I think Brown is the best returner i've seen on the Redskins in a long time. Granted he was only in for 2 or 3 games; but damn he was very impressive. However I think the more fast, athletic guys we have back there, the more dangerous our special teams unit could be. If we need to cut Morton to sign a draft pick or what-not, then so be it. However,I think we go into camp wtih all three guys and see what kinda fireworks we can get with our return units.

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Most definitely. You remember last year when the Ravens did that fake to Deion? I think we could pull something like that off every now and then.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]I'd at least give Morton a chance to prove himself. No point in taking the hit if we could have TWO great return men.[/QUOTE]

But with the addition of Moss along with Thrash, Brown, and Scott, why not take the hit to free up a roster spot for a position that we need more depth at? We have a pretty deep Running back corps. with Portis, Betts, and Cartwright.

Not disagreeing with you, just adding some food for thought.

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I definitely don't deny that. I would just like to see him back there for a season and re-evaluate afterwards. Maybe his value could go up for a trade. He's not worth a damn thing to anyone being on the injured list, so maybe he could find a spot on special teams and either A) prove himself and stay or B) prove himself and get shopped next off-season. I don't know about Scott as a return man though. I liked him in pre-season, but if I remember correctly, I don't think he played a lot against the starters. I DO however think he has a shot (as much as Jacobs has).

As far as the roster spot is concerned, I'm fairly torn on that. I'd LIKE to see us have room for another position we need, but I also would hate to see Morton leave without us seeing him play (just like I feel about Barrow).

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]I definitely don't deny that. I would just like to see him back there for a season and re-evaluate afterwards. Maybe his value could go up for a trade. He's not worth a damn thing to anyone being on the injured list, so maybe he could find a spot on special teams and either A) prove himself and stay or B) prove himself and get shopped next off-season. I don't know about Scott as a return man though. I liked him in pre-season, but if I remember correctly, I don't think he played a lot against the starters. I DO however think he has a shot (as much as Jacobs has).

As far as the roster spot is concerned, I'm fairly torn on that. I'd LIKE to see us have room for another position we need, but I also would hate to see Morton leave without us seeing him play (just like I feel about Barrow).[/QUOTE]

I like the way you are thinking on the let him prove himself. I agree that I would like to see him play a little first before sending him packing. Too bad he is not worth anything in a trade though.

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Yeah, I hate how we [used] to roll the dice so much on big names (not that he was a huge name). However, if we keep on buying solid, cheap talent, I'm confident that the upcoming season will reflect that.

I really would like to see Barrow on the field next year though. At least see him in training camp and fight it out with Marshall. Maybe the two of them rotating in.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Yeah, I hate how we [used] to roll the dice so much on big names (not that he was a huge name). However, if we keep on buying solid, cheap talent, I'm confident that the upcoming season will reflect that.

I really would like to see Barrow on the field next year though. At least see him in training camp and fight it out with Marshall. Maybe the two of them rotating in.[/QUOTE]

It sucks to have to say this, but even with taking into consideration how much we spent on Borrow we should just prep Marshall or some other young body. Borrow is no spring chicken, and the skins need to look for the future MLB as opposed to the pasts should have been MLB.

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We're definitely prepping Marshall. That's why we promoted him rather than resigning Pierce. Again, I think Barrow is another guy that could be, if not is one of the best LBs in the league. THAT'S why I really want to see him at least play for us a couple years.

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[QUOTE=angryssg]It sucks to have to say this, but even with taking into consideration how much we spent on Borrow we should just prep Marshall or some other young body. Borrow is no spring chicken, and the skins need to look for the future MLB as opposed to the pasts should have been MLB.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. But if they are paying and he is healthy, might as well play him and work in Marshall when they can. I am sure Williams could work him in somewhere.

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Exactly. I don't want to buy those $7 FedEx beers for nothing! :)

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I think that he had his last good season with the Giants. He did not play at all last year, and he is getting old. Those two factors alone are enough to put him on a downslide. Hey, if he proves then more power to him, but he has yet to show us anything as a skin. Until he does I will stand firm to my position on this. Ironically if he does prove me wrong, I will be among the first cheering for him. Call it two faced or a double standard or whatever you want, but that is the way that I look at it.

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[QUOTE=Daseal]Great, I like Clemons. Wish we weren't so saturated at the LB position so we could see more of him![/QUOTE]

It'd be nice to a 3-4 every now and then!

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[QUOTE=angryssg]But with the addition of Moss along with Thrash, Brown, and Scott, why not take the hit to free up a roster spot for a position that we need more depth at? We have a pretty deep Running back corps. with Portis, Betts, and Cartwright.

Not disagreeing with you, just adding some food for thought.[/QUOTE]
I am pretty sure that Moss wont be returning kicks and punts anymore. Atleast, maybe, it will be up to him if he wants to or not, but if he is supposed to be our #1 WR I dont see him taking on that role with us.

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Forgive me if i appear incoherent. Ive had too much to drink like Malcom in the middle on St Pat's day(I'm sure you know of whom I speak) But damn it guys, watch the games some times. When did you ever see Gregg Williams with a 3-4. You and your damn Baltimore pipe dreams.

If you want 3-4, move to baltimore. Thats my new rap. Our defense is complex, not only to confuse opposing offenses, but to confuse us as well. If you dont understand the complexity of a bear defense. Im referring to the Centerfield safety configuration, not the team, then dont make comments, like, lets have a 3-4 defense. This isnt the 80's anymore. Defense's have progressed beyond 2 types. It may seem difficult, but allow me to time capsule your 3-4 comments for you, and show them to you in 10 years, when everyone on ESPN has explained a bear defense to you. Because it may take 10 years for the new defensive schemes in the nfl to permiate your thick, high school level defensive minds.

There are intelligent people getting paid a year more than you'll make in a lifetime, to figure out how to take advantage of conventional defenses. Step up to the plate, and expand a little.

It's not a mystery why our defense (filled with previous underachievers) excelled against the West Coast Offenses(choke, choke, somebody blow the fucking dust off).

Absolutely no insult intended to those that may take insult. But is anyone out there on the same page?

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Brown is our new kick and punt returner.

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[QUOTE=Monksdown]Forgive me if i appear incoherent. Ive had too much to drink like Malcom in the middle on St Pat's day(I'm sure you know of whom I speak) But damn it guys, watch the games some times. When did you ever see Gregg Williams with a 3-4. You and your damn Baltimore pipe dreams.

If you want 3-4, move to baltimore. Thats my new rap. Our defense is complex, not only to confuse opposing offenses, but to confuse us as well. If you dont understand the complexity of a bear defense. Im referring to the Centerfield safety configuration, not the team, then dont make comments, like, lets have a 3-4 defense. This isnt the 80's anymore. Defense's have progressed beyond 2 types. It may seem difficult, but allow me to time capsule your 3-4 comments for you, and show them to you in 10 years, when everyone on ESPN has explained a bear defense to you. Because it may take 10 years for the new defensive schemes in the nfl to permiate your thick, high school level defensive minds.

There are intelligent people getting paid a year more than you'll make in a lifetime, to figure out how to take advantage of conventional defenses. Step up to the plate, and expand a little.

It's not a mystery why our defense (filled with previous underachievers) excelled against the West Coast Offenses(choke, choke, somebody blow the fucking dust off).

Absolutely no insult intended to those that may take insult. But is anyone out there on the same page?[/QUOTE]

LOL, Hey, leave me and my booze out of this! It did NOTHING to you! LOL
I just like to celebrate culture. If you look at the Warpath Picture Gallery (link in my info), you can see me celebrating Mexican culture the SECOND I got off the plane.

Good job though man. You're taking a page from my book. Getting drunk on a Monday.

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[QUOTE=angryssg]But with the addition of Moss along with Thrash, Brown, and Scott, why not take the hit to free up a roster spot for a position that we need more depth at? We have a pretty deep Running back corps. with Portis, Betts, and Cartwright.

Not disagreeing with you, just adding some food for thought.[/QUOTE]

Haven't you had your fill on cap hits for one decade?

I know I have.

[SIZE=7] :frusty:[/SIZE]

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brown, morton, moss, thrash, simon, betts, scott... how many returners do we need?

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Moss is a WR, leave him as one. Thrash isn't a good return man. I like him on special teams, but not as a returner. Same goes for Betts, though he's a better option than Thrash. Scott is practice squad at best.

It doesn't matter who we have returning kicks till we figure out how to block for them.

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I'm also curious how many of you guys were calling for him to be cut when he had a critical fumble. Perhaps you should give a player time before passing judgement. (Talking about Brown)

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[QUOTE=That Guy]brown, morton, moss, thrash, simon, betts, scott... how many returners do we need?[/QUOTE]

Ideally just one kick returner for one kick off per game and lots of punt returners to share the workload. :)

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thrash had good returns, i like him better than betts (who doesn't have the speed and doesnt get that many yards, even though he's the only one that can break tackles).

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Very happy to see Clemons is coming back

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[QUOTE=Daseal]I'm also curious how many of you guys were calling for him to be cut when he had a critical fumble. Perhaps you should give a player time before passing judgement. (Talking about Brown)[/QUOTE]
I don't remember too many people beating up Brown for his fumble. I think we all knew he was not the first option, and with the injuries we had, we were happy he did as well as he did. I wish the fumble hadn't happened, but I bet Brown feels the same way.

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i was a bit mad we (the team, not brown indiviually) found another way to lose a closes game, but it happens... and i had already been impressed by his skill (for a no name midseason pickup) at that point.

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I like the resigning of Clemons because in his small amount of playing time, he frequently made an impact and getting that from situational players is huge.

And as far as the cut Morton thing that's spreading like wildfire, I thought it had been discussed in a thread a while back that cutting him would increase his cap hit ala Coles, but not that extremely. So why would they cut a player and cost themselves more cap space than if they kept him, if the player in question is someone we can use and who wants to play here still?

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[QUOTE=BrudLee]I don't remember too many people beating up Brown for his fumble. I think we all knew he was not the first option, and with the injuries we had, we were happy he did as well as he did. I wish the fumble hadn't happened, but I bet Brown feels the same way.[/QUOTE]

One fumble isn't going to send him to the waiver wire on this board, two fumbles is a different story though! LOL

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Im just curious, anyone remember the date of that game?

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[QUOTE=Daseal]Im just curious, anyone remember the date of that game?[/QUOTE]

The Cowboys game? That was December 26th, 2004

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You were right, only one person asked for him to be cut! Sorry. Looking back at old threads during the season is actually pretty fun. That game is around page 64.

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I was upset about that, but he more than made up for it at the end of the year.