Mid Season Report: NFL
 

Thoughts on the first half...what surprised you? Who is playing well? Teams to watch in the second half for the playoff run? Biggest story? MVP?

So far Andy Reid is Coach of the Year, I know they were going to be decent, but this is redic

MVP: Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, Jimmy Graham, Drew Brees?

Biggest disappointment: Baltimore, they look horrible

Quiet ballers: Cincy, Carolina. Carolina has their biggest game in years this weekend vs SF.

Ill say this, KC is undefeated, but they not going to the Super Bowl.

I think the most intriguing story the second half will be the NFC North race with both Cutler and now Rodgers injuried. If Trestman wins the division, I think he enters the discussion of coach of the year, I right now Im leaning towards the Bears as the team to beat.

Thoughts? Discussion?

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[quote=Chico23231;1038894]Thoughts on the first half...what surprised you? Who is playing well? Teams to watch in the second half for the playoff run? Biggest story? MVP?

So far Andy Reid is Coach of the Year, I know they were going to be decent, but this is redic

MVP: Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, Jimmy Graham, Drew Brees?

Biggest disappointment: Baltimore, they look horrible

Quiet ballers: Cincy, Carolina. Carolina has their biggest game in years this weekend vs SF.

Ill say this, KC is undefeated, but they not going to the Super Bowl.

I think the most intriguing story the second half will be the NFC North race with both Cutler and now Rodgers injuried. If Trestman wins the division, I think he enters the discussion of coach of the year, I right now Im leaning towards the Bears as the team to beat.

Thoughts? Discussion?[/quote]

I might take Atlanta as the biggest disappointment. It's true that the Ravens look bad but post-championship hangovers are not unheard of. Atlanta was supposed to compete for the crown this year.

And don't count out the Lions in the NFC North.

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MVP: Peyton Manning. Drew Brees is second. If Peyton Manning wasn't on pace to throw 50 plus TD's we would be talking about Drew Brees and his video game like numbers.

Biggest Disappointment: Atlanta and Houston. Washington/Baltimore would be next.
Houston has a great defense but their offense is horrible (specifically Matt Schaub). They looked they were turning it around 2 nights ago and then their coach collapses.
Atlanta obviously lost both their starting receivers. Matt Ryan has played terribly.

Biggest Surprise: Obviously Kansas City. That Defense can travel and play well against anyone. Starting to think they will make it to at least the AFC Championship game just because of their pass rush and mistake free football (similar to Alex Smith when the 49ers made it to the NFC Championship Game).
Also surprise is Tony Romo. He is on pace to throw about 8 or 9 interceptions and 36 touchdown passes.

I think the Lions win the NFC North. They have Pitt, Philly, Tampa, Baltimore and NYG left on their schedule. I see at least 4 wins for them just based on those games. They also will be playing the Bears next week and Jay Cutler probably won't start. They will also be playing the Packers when they will not have the services of Aaron Rogers unless he makes a miracle comeback. So the schedule lines up very nicely for the Lions.

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[quote=Lotus;1038895]I might take Atlanta as the biggest disappointment. It's true that the Ravens look bad but post-championship hangovers are not unheard of. Atlanta was supposed to compete for the crown this year.

And don't count out the Lions in the NFC North.[/quote]

Ya I agree about Atlanta I was worried at the beginning of the season going to that game. But now I am kinda excited. Hope to see a great show of Redskins fans there.

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Baltimore doesn't surprise me too much since they weren't that great last year and just went on a run in the playoffs. Sure, the Giants did it the two years they went, but I still don't think Baltimore was anywhere near as good as they played in the playoffs.

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The team that didnt surprise me was Houston...I just didnt have a good feeling about them going into the season. Schaub is done, but he showed signs last year.

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MVP MANNING

Biggest surprise KC
Biggest Disappointment ATL

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Coach of the Year: Andy Reid for sure. They could lose the rest of their games and he'd still be a candidate.

MVP: Peyton. Everyone else is a distant second. I'd throw Matt Stafford into that race with a NFC North win, but Peyton would have to fall off the earth for anyone else to win it.

Biggest disappointment: Minny. 10-6 in the playoffs to 1-7 and sinking faster than the Titanic. Throwing Josh Freeman into the mix was disasterous. Ponder and Cassel may not have been the answer, but no use in giving a guy a week to prepare. Can't see Frazier coming back next year.

Quiet ballers: Tennessee. Sitting 4-4, 2 games behind Indy. They still face Jacksonville twice, Houston once. If they can steal a game or sweep Indy, that could go a long way into winning this weak division.

I agree with the NFC North being the top story of the 2nd half. All 3 teams 2-1 in the division, gonna be a horse race. I have the Lions with the edge. They may have the easiest schedule of the 3, and have the talent to make a run.

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[quote=Chico23231;1038894]Thoughts on the first half...what surprised you? Who is playing well? Teams to watch in the second half for the playoff run? Biggest story? MVP?

So far Andy Reid is Coach of the Year, I know they were going to be decent, but this is redic

MVP: Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, Jimmy Graham, Drew Brees?

Biggest disappointment: Baltimore, they look horrible

Quiet ballers: Cincy, Carolina. Carolina has their biggest game in years this weekend vs SF.

Ill say this, KC is undefeated, but they not going to the Super Bowl.

I think the most intriguing story the second half will be the NFC North race with both Cutler and now Rodgers injuried. If Trestman wins the division, I think he enters the discussion of coach of the year, I right now Im leaning towards the Bears as the team to beat.

Thoughts? Discussion?[/quote]


Panthers have really surprised , didn't they start 0-3?

Ravens not a shock, Flacco is what he is and they lost a ton of players.

Lions win the north at 11-5 due to AR going down.

2 teams from north will get in, I'd say CHI AND DET

2 FROM NFCW SEA AND SF

1 FROM EAST - 3 TEAM RACE

1 FROM SOUTH - N.O

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[quote=Chico23231;1038894]Thoughts on the first half...what surprised you? Who is playing well? Teams to watch in the second half for the playoff run? Biggest story? MVP?

So far Andy Reid is Coach of the Year, I know they were going to be decent, but this is redic

MVP: Peyton Manning, Andrew Luck, Jimmy Graham, Drew Brees?

Biggest disappointment: Baltimore, they look horrible

Quiet ballers: Cincy, Carolina. Carolina has their biggest game in years this weekend vs SF.

Ill say this, KC is undefeated, but they not going to the Super Bowl.

I think the most intriguing story the second half will be the NFC North race with both Cutler and now Rodgers injuried. If Trestman wins the division, I think he enters the discussion of coach of the year, I right now Im leaning towards the Bears as the team to beat.

Thoughts? Discussion?[/quote]

Who would you consider to be loud ballers? :D



KC is undefeated and they deserve every W in their win column but they're not as strong as their record. Arrowhead has traditionally been a tough place to win...even moreso than Seattle's sound tunnel over a longer period of time, so they need to finish ahead of Denver to have a shot at the Super Bowl. I think they'll lose some road games before the end of the year, namely the one in Denver.


[U]Stud teams:[/U]
Denver, KC, New Orleans, Colts


[U]Dud teams (expected to be at least decent and never showed up)[/U]:
Atlanta, Philly, NJ Giants, Houston, Pittsburgh, Baltimore



[U]On the rise:[/U]
Redskins, Browns (yes, I said Browns), Panthers, Lions (due to death of other division teams)


[U]Falling:[/U]
Dallas, Chicago, GB without Aaron


[U]Most overrated team:[/U]
Seattle


[U]Surprise team:[/U]
NJ Jets



MVP: Peyton Manning
Toilet Bowl Award (career swirling down): Eli Manning
Please Go Award: Matt Schaub


Coach of Year: Andy Reid


Rookie of Year: Kiki Alonso
Rookie Bust: Tavon Austin

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PFF has Kory and Polumbus on their all pro teams, but snubbed D Hall for Prince... lmao That site is garbage.

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Breakdown on Hankerson vs the Chargers.

[url=http://www.hogshaven.com/2013/11/6/5071662/hazards-huddle-leonard-hankerson-vs-san-diego-chargers]Hazard's Huddle: Leonard Hankerson vs. San Diego Chargers - Hogs Haven[/url]

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D Hall is challenging for DPOY.

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My biggest surprise is New Orleans not being undefeated actually.

Love seeing Andy Reid and a good group of guys in KC having success. They're my SB fav from AFC.

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Biggest Disappointment: Atlanta / Washington (so far)
MVP: Peyton Manning / Drew Brees
Quiet Ballers: Carolina Panthers
Coach of the year: Andy Reid

Not so big surprise: The Ravens - I knew their season would go down the toilet after losing so many good players during the offseason

How will the season end? Carolina finds a way into the post season, The Chiefs get knocked out of the playoffs during the divisional round, Seattle gets into the NFC Championship game against the 49ers.

Super Bowl predictions? San Fran VS Denver

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/58327/midseason-report-washington-redskins]Midseason Report: Washington Redskins - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url]

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Worst team doctor: The guy the Giants hired.

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You know, I think I'll go with Trestman over Reid for COY at this point. Not that there's a wrong answer. But as someone particularly familiar with the Bears offensive struggles predating the NFL, this time it feels different.

MVP: Manning. Rivers has a darn good case though.

Biggest disappointment: Washington. You could make a case for the Giants or Texans, but the Redskins are a bigger disappointment.

Best Surprise: Kansas City.

Best Surprise, non-Kansas City division: Probably New Orleans? This is difficult. Indianapolis is way beyond where you would expect them to be and they're doing it with Andrew Luck playing good, not great football.

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[quote=Mattyk;1039005][url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/58327/midseason-report-washington-redskins]Midseason Report: Washington Redskins - NFC East Blog - ESPN[/url][/quote]

Interesting grade for the Oline, dont think i agree.

It just sucks reading about crappy safety play year in and year out. I dont agree with Wilson as solid.

WR to me is a huge need this off season, area with the most work.

Love Fletch, but he needs replacing.

Needs offseason rankings:

1. Proven FS
2. ILB
3. Slot WR
4. Interior Oline addition
5. CB
6. PR/KR
7. Depth WR and CB

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[quote=GTripp0012;1039014]You know, I think I'll go with Trestman over Reid for COY at this point. Not that there's a wrong answer. But as someone particularly familiar with the Bears offensive struggles predating the NFL, this time it feels different.

MVP: Manning. Rivers has a darn good case though.

Biggest disappointment: Washington. You could make a case for the Giants or Texans, but the Redskins are a bigger disappointment.

Best Surprise: Kansas City.

Best Surprise, non-Kansas City division: Probably New Orleans? This is difficult. Indianapolis is way beyond where you would expect them to be and they're doing it with Andrew Luck playing good, not great football.[/quote]

agree with Trestman in the discussion. Rex Ryan in there as well.

I dont think you put the Skins as biggest disappointment based on the fact RG3 injury and missing preseason. Just cant imo. Atlanta, Texans or Baltimore seem like the top tier disappointments.

No surprises with Saints or Indy for me.

I worry about KC playing a game away from home in the playoffs.

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[quote=Chico23231;1039017]agree with Trestman in the discussion. Rex Ryan in there as well.

I dont think you put the Skins as biggest disappointment based on the fact RG3 injury and missing preseason. Just cant imo. Atlanta, Texans or Baltimore seem like the top tier disappointments.

No surprises with Saints or Indy for me.

I worry about KC playing a game away from home in the playoffs.[/quote]It's a year with a lot of disappointments, but if the pre-season expectation is that you will defend your division title (a preseason poll here had '8 or fewer' wins as an actual option), you cannot be a bad team. And the Redskins have been a bad team.

Atlanta isn't a good team, but they also didn't have the upside that Washington did going into the year, nor have they played spectacularly bad football. They're a garden variety disappointment. Baltimore is disappointing if you considered them a super bowl favorite, but right from opening day it was pretty clear they were not that. They've also been worse than reasonable expectation, but the Redskins have been the single biggest disappointment in football.

The surprise with New Orleans and Indy wasn't that they came out of nowhere (like Kansas City), rather that they were known mediocre commodities who made defensive jumps in 2013 that they could have made at any other time, but never did. And I'm not sure how to identify that in a preseason prediction. If you had asked me to go with the worst two defenses in football before the season, I might have said the Saints and the Colts (or Chargers).

Actually, the Chargers have been a surprise too, but they don't have a ton of wins to show for it.

I may have forgotten the Titans. I thought that team would be terrible. They're...okay.

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Man, listening to Fred Smoot on ESPN First Take makes me shake my head. He's an idiot.

Let RG3 make his money. This is a business.

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[quote=GTripp0012;1039014]You know, I think I'll go with Trestman over Reid for COY at this point. Not that there's a wrong answer. [B] But as someone particularly familiar with the Bears offensive struggles predating the NFL,[/B] this time it feels different.

MVP: Manning. Rivers has a darn good case though.

Biggest disappointment: Washington. You could make a case for the Giants or Texans, but the Redskins are a bigger disappointment.

Best Surprise: Kansas City.

Best Surprise, non-Kansas City division: Probably New Orleans? This is difficult. Indianapolis is way beyond where you would expect them to be and they're doing it with Andrew Luck playing good, not great football.[/quote]

What?

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[quote=SmootSmack;1039029]What?[/quote]I'm obviously 95 years old.

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What's your favorite thing about owning the Buffalo Bills?

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Gameday spreads.

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1039032]What's your favorite thing about owning the Buffalo Bills?[/QUOTE]

Are we sure he is actually breathing? Maybe the cold weather has kept him well preserved and it's just weekend at Bernies up there?

Mid Season Report: NFL
 

Biggest disappointement: Falcons and it aint even close.
Biggest surprise: Jets. They were pegged by everyone to be thee worst team in football.
MVP: Peyton Manning.
ROY: Zac Stacy. Dude is awesome.
Coach of the year : Fat Andy
Also honerable mention to the Jaguars who are on their way to becoming thee worst team in nfl history. They will lose everygame by 14 points or more.

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[quote=punch it in;1039070]Biggest disappointement: Falcons and it aint even close.
Biggest surprise: Jets. They were pegged by everyone to be thee worst team in football.
MVP: Peyton Manning.
ROY: Zac Stacy. Dude is awesome.
Coach of the year : Fat Andy
Also honerable mention to the Jaguars who are on their way to becoming thee worst team in nfl history. They will lose everygame by 14 points or more.[/quote]

ditto. I expected KC to be at least "pretty good" this year, so that's not a shock at all. the way denver is blowing people out though is pretty surprising. I definitely wouldn't be mad seeing peyton get a second ring this year.

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[quote=That Guy;1039077]ditto. I expected KC to be at least "pretty good" this year, so that's not a shock at all. the way denver is blowing people out though is pretty surprising. I definitely wouldn't be mad seeing peyton get a second ring this year.[/quote]

I felt the same up to the Denver game. Annoying ass fans, hicks mostly. Hated watching us lose there.

Don't think it's Denver's year tho. NFC wins back the Lombardi unless Reid gets more out of the KC offense in which case he finally gets the big one. That team has legit talent and leadership among players and coaches.

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Any chance Jordan reed stays hot and moves ahead GB's Lacy for OROY?

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Biggest Disappointment: Supposedly knowledgeable football fans here who doubted the Jets
Biggest Surprise: That knowledgeable football fans doubted the Jets
MVP: Nick Folk
Coach of Year: Rex Ryan
Rookie of Year: Geno Smith

/end thread

I don't think KC has enough offense to go all the way. It's going to bite them sooner or later.

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[quote=Mattyk;1039085]I don't think KC has enough offense to go all the way. It's going to bite them sooner or later.[/quote]

I'm rooting for Alex Smith but I agree

Also, how cool would it be for Chase Daniel to have two Super Bowl rings

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[quote=SmootSmack;1039086]I'm rooting for Alex Smith but I agree

Also, how cool would it be for Chase Daniel to have two Super Bowl rings[/quote]

He should probably retire after that. :)

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[quote=Mattyk;1039085]I don't think KC has enough offense to go all the way. It's going to bite them sooner or later.[/quote]


No way they beat Denver imo

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[quote=SmootSmack;1039083]Biggest Disappointment: Supposedly knowledgeable football fans here who doubted the Jets
Biggest Surprise: That knowledgeable football fans doubted the Jets
MVP: Nick Folk
Coach of Year: Rex Ryan
Rookie of Year: Geno Smith

/end thread[/quote]


LMAO Y r u such a Jets fan though? Just curious

[QUOTE=SmootSmack;1039083]Biggest Disappointment: Supposedly knowledgeable football fans here who doubted the Jets
Biggest Surprise: That knowledgeable football fans doubted the Jets
MVP: Nick Folk
Coach of Year: Rex Ryan
Rookie of Year: Geno Smith

/end thread[/QUOTE]

Lol.
Having two favorite football teams is just wrong!

[QUOTE=Green Monk Machine;1039082]Any chance Jordan reed stays hot and moves ahead GB's Lacy for OROY?[/QUOTE]

I think zac stacy would be ahead of him also. The dude got a late start but he is tearing it up. In his five starts he is averaging more yards per game than anyone and a 4.6 ypc.

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[url=http://espn.go.com/blog/nfceast/post/_/id/58440/kyle-shanahan-jordan-reed-has-it]Kyle Shanahan: Washington Redskins rookie TE Jordan Reed has it - ESPN[/url]