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I just heard on cold pizza that they (in the nfl meetings) actively discussing changing pass interference to 15 yard penalties as is done in college ball.

Since we had at LEAST two 45+yard penalties this season, i'm all for it.

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An article on ESPN.com said the Chiefs would be introducing a proposal to roll back the Illegal contact rules they started applying last year and change the PI rules to a 15 yarder instead of the spot foul. It said it would get discussed but go nowhere since the competition commitee loves the increased offense. Usually the owners just follow the advice of the competition commitee.

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The rule change I heard was 15 yards for most PI calls but spot foul if the ref determines that it is intentional.

Clayton on ESPN said he did not think the rule would pass as the owners are happy that the stricter calls on contact have resulted in more open passing games. Don't know if this was just his opinion or if he was reporting what owners had said to him.

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Catch 22? :oink:

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]The rule change I heard was 15 yards for most PI calls but spot foul if the ref determines that it is intentional.[/QUOTE]
That's exactly what is needed. More judgement calls for the incompetent offcials to make. They can't even identify PI half the time now. How are they supposed to judge whether it was intentional? What constitues intentional? I mean how many times does a guy get accidently interferred with?

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[QUOTE=FRPLG]That's exactly what is needed. More judgement calls for the incompetent offcials to make. They can't even identify PI half the time now. How are they supposed to judge whether it was intentional? What constitues intentional? I mean how many times does a guy get accidently interferred with?[/QUOTE]

same thing I was thinking and if fans thought some refs were biased before, that rule would allow for more of the same. I like the idea of going with the same type of rule as in college, because as we saw in that cowpie game, one bogus PI call can really f you up.

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How bout 15 yrds unless the foul is within the 10 yrd line?

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Don't like the rule.

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It would be nice for us because overall we got more calls agaisnt us than for us, by a long shot. However, our receivers never got past the 5 yard line so it was hard to get a PI called.

I think they should keep it the same but make it challengable.

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin]The rule change I heard was 15 yards for most PI calls but spot foul if the ref determines that it is intentional.

Clayton on ESPN said he did not think the rule would pass as the owners are happy that the stricter calls on contact have resulted in more open passing games. Don't know if this was just his opinion or if he was reporting what owners had said to him.[/QUOTE]

Thats excactly how the rule should be. I am 100% behind this. If someone tackles someone in the endzone, then yes; it should be a spot of the foul. Now I think PI should be a spot of the foul call if there wasent so much bad officiating. Therefore I think the most logical way to do it; is as stated above. I like this.

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I hate PI calls period, they're so subjective and the basis for which they're called seem to change play to play.

All I know is we got royally screwed all season with PI calls going against us, and blatant non-calls.

You definitely can't change all PI calls to 15 yards, otherwise corners will be interfering all the time on deep balls, the penalty wouldn't be severe enough.

How are they going to determine what's intentional and what's not?? Refs have a hard enough time as it is now, I think this would only add to the mess that is pass interference.

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I dont see them making it a 15 yard rule, because if I was covering randy moss and he had me beat I would just push him to the ground if the risk was only a 15 yard penalty. Having pass interfearence calls forces you to cover a receiver without hitting them, and if you do theres a huge consequence. Two minute drills espesiclly would be so much different, you would tell your players to foul them.

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personally i'd justs like them to be challengeable... that's all i'd like to see.

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How about making them 15 yarders inside 15 yards and spot fouls down field? I like making them reviewable but if they are reviewable then they should add a challenge to the mix becasue now we're adding a major chunk of plays to the reviewable list and it seems unfiar to make things reviweable but only allow teams the same amount of reviews a game. If they want the game to be decided by the players they should give more reviews. I like having 2 but make a caveat that you get a minimum of the two. If you don't get one over turned then you can continue to challenge until you do. That makes teams ensure that the call was incorrect. Inconclusive should not count as an overturn. Teams shouldn't suffer because the camera has a bad angle.

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I honestly feel if the ball is thrown 40 yards down field and the WR is interferred with then the ball should be spotted at the foul. It justs makes sense. But make them reviewable to ensure the moron officials don't continue to have too much sway.

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just let teams throw a red flag, that's it ;) keep it simple.

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I THINK that the WR should be 40% liable for interference and the DB 60%. I only give the benefit of the doubt to the WR because they have a right to catch the ball since they are on offense, but come on, how many offensive interference penalties did we see last year?

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]I THINK that the WR should be 40% liable for interference and the DB 60%. I only give the benefit of the doubt to the WR because they have a right to catch the ball since they are on offense, but come on, how many offensive interference penalties did we see last year?[/QUOTE]
That is a good point...they never call offensive PI unless the WR bends the DB over and has his way with him. There should be no distinction between the two when a ball is in there air yet clearly the officials in their infinite wisdom have somehow decided to almost never call it on WRs. Mind blowing really.

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AND it seems like to be a "good WR" you have to be able to get separation and more often than not, that separation comes from pushing off or doing something else that should warrant an offensive PI call.

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The refs use their judgment in 5 vs 15 yard facemask penalties. Obviously, that's not as important in a game as PI, but there is a precedent. I hate the spot of foul rule because it often is the difference in games--I was at the Dallas game in week three and that was utter BS. But you're right about taking down WRs just to save TDs--so maybe the intentional/unintentional thing is the way to go. It puts a lot in the refs hands, but of course, they already have the game in their hands, and this gives them some flexibility on the tough calls. (I doubt it will be changed, given the "open offense" trend...)

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Keep the rule as it is now. Put three refs up in the booth who have the ability to view replay. If the on-field ref screws up, the booth refs have the authority to overturn the call on the field. Unanimous vote required to overturn a call. This would work for all calls, not just PI calls.

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DCooper: The problem I see with that particular scenario is how long do you normally have before the next play is run? 30 seconds maybe? That's a lot to do in 30 seconds. Three people see a review, agree, overturn, page ref all within a 30 second period? That's tough to do!

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Ok it is an upgrade IF there is the judgement thing b/c at least if the two down field just get tangled up there wont be no 45 yard penalty but w/o it i am sure we would see ALOT of PI not to give up a big play
THERE also should be challanges on PI plays and other penalties b/c it skrews everything up. I mean i understand why fumbles that are called incomplete passes can't be challenged but PI seems to me like nothing could go wrong the play would continue if the ball was caught and ran in for a touchdown it doesn't stop like in a case of a dropped ball

This is somewhat benificial for the defense for a change
THEY SHOULD CHANGE OVERTIME RULES BEFORE ANYTHING!!!

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The PI calls need to be fixed so I'm all for any improvement, whether it's 15-yarders or allowing teams to challenge. I'm sick of the inconsistent PI calls I see every game, especially when we're the ones who get burnt most of the time.

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Anyone have any stats on the team with the most defensive PI calls?