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SmootSmack 12-11-2013 09:36 AM

Kirk Cousins Expected To Start Sunday
 
Wouldn't surprise me if Griffin is inactive

mlmdub130 12-11-2013 09:37 AM

Inactive? So I'm guessing that would mean Rex would suit up for the first time this year?

Lotus 12-11-2013 09:42 AM

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Unbelievable. This is all surreal.

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MTK 12-11-2013 09:43 AM

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I won't be watching. F this team. Specifically, F Shanahan.

Evilgrin 12-11-2013 09:46 AM

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Team has more info from unidentified sources then the US Gov...

skinsfaninok 12-11-2013 09:48 AM

[QUOTE=Mattyk;1047984]I won't be watching. F this team. Specifically, F Shanahan.[/QUOTE]

I will watch the 1st QTR if it gets stupid which I think it will I'll turn it off like last week . It's a shame that RG3 is the scapegoat now smh

Slingin Sammy 33 12-11-2013 09:48 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;1047984]Specifically, F Shanahan.[/quote]Crystalized my thoughts eloquently. So how about that 34th overall pick...

Gmanc711 12-11-2013 09:49 AM

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[quote=SmootSmack;1047980]Wouldn't surprise me if Griffin is inactive[/quote]

I mean he should be inactive; otherwise Shanahans explanation (as fake as it is) is completely negated. I almost hope they just throw him on IR (Whatever the equivalent is for a non injury) and let Cousins and Grossman mop this up.

But holy hell what a circus this is. I'm sure there is plenty of blame to go around, but I'm quickly losing any remaining respect I still held for Shanahan.

skinsfaninok 12-11-2013 09:49 AM

Hell y can't we get the 33rd pick

DynamiteRave 12-11-2013 09:49 AM

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I wonder how Griff feels about all this. And I'm not talking about his media side. I mean how he truly feels. Like if he blames himself or thinks Shanahan is just an idiot or whatever. Ah, to be a fly on the wall at Redskins Park.

ArtMonkDrillz 12-11-2013 09:49 AM

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^Agreed. I mentally checked out of this season during the viking debacle, but I've still been following along and watching games. But this will be/is the final nail in the coffin for me.
Not that it makes any difference to the universe, but I think I may take down my redskins-ornament only Christmas tree (aka, the tree of shame) when I get home. It makes me sick.

mooby 12-11-2013 09:51 AM

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;1047995]^Agreed. I mentally checked out of this season during the viking debacle, but I've still been following along and watching games. But this will be/is the final nail in the coffin for me.
Not that it makes any difference to the universe, but I think I may take down my redskins-ornament only Christmas tree (aka, the tree of shame) when I get home. It makes me sick.[/quote]

It's pretty sad when your shithead coach will actually bench the starting qb to force his way out of a job. Congrats on how quickly you're burning your bridges Shanny, hopefully the other owners learn a lesson from this. I'll be watching this week, at least until we start getting blown out.

skinsfaninok 12-11-2013 09:53 AM

Who would have thought Jim Zorn would be made to look good by MS after this shit show

Gmanc711 12-11-2013 09:54 AM

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I will say this, I'm more excited to watch this game because Cousins is starting, hoping he does well and we can turn that into picks....

/picks up the Falcons defense for my fantasy playoffs.....

SBXVII 12-11-2013 09:55 AM

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What if.

What if Cousins starts Sunday and the team wins? What happens if Cousins looks better in a typical MS style offense (meaning no option and pocket passing with some roll outs) and the team keeps winning?

KI Skins Fan 12-11-2013 09:55 AM

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Well, that's it then. If there was any doubt about Shanny being gone after this season, it has been erased.

Since we're going to have a new coach and a new offense next year, I'm, at least, relieved that Kyle won't get any more chances to reinjure RGIII.

As for Kirk's trade value, it could go up or it could go down. I don't care because I want the Redskins to keep him unless they are blown away by a trade offer.

I'm betting that Kirk plays well. Then we'll see what happens.

Adios, Mike.

Hijinx 12-11-2013 09:55 AM

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Some men just like to watch the world burn.

DynamiteRave 12-11-2013 09:56 AM

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[quote=Gmanc711;1048000]I will say this, I'm more excited to watch this game because Cousins is starting, hoping he does well and we can turn that into picks....

/picks up the Falcons defense for my fantasy playoffs.....[/quote]

Damn that reminds me, that means I have to drop Griff from my FF lineup this week. Ugh.

Gmanc711 12-11-2013 09:57 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;1048001]What if.

What if Cousins starts Sunday and the team wins? What happens if Cousins looks better in a typical MS style offense (meaning no option and pocket passing with some roll outs) and the team keeps winning?[/quote]

Then he has a higher trade value.

In my opinion, there is 0% chance that Kirk Cousins starts a game for the Redskins beyond this season if he plays well the next three weeks.

Evilgrin 12-11-2013 09:57 AM

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So the only player on the team with any value is Griffin, all the rest are expendable:)

SBXVII 12-11-2013 09:58 AM

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[quote=Gmanc711;1048000]I will say this, I'm more excited to watch this game because Cousins is starting, hoping he does well and we can turn that into picks....

/picks up the Falcons defense for my fantasy playoffs.....[/quote]

Everyone naturally assumes starting Cousins is for two reasons

1- to keep RG3 healthy
2- to showcase Cousins for trade bait

But what if MS is trying to prove to DS that Cousins is better and can lead this team? If Cousins does well and the team wins.... do we keep MS for the final year, drop the read option, and start Cousins?

KI Skins Fan 12-11-2013 10:01 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;1048009]Everyone naturally assumes starting Cousins is for two reasons

1- to keep RG3 healthy
2- to showcase Cousins for trade bait

But what if MS is trying to prove to DS that Cousins is better and can lead this team? If Cousins does well and the team wins.... do we keep MS for the final year, drop the read option, and start Cousins?[/quote]

Is SBXVII an evil genius? "I do believe there may be a Squatch in these woods."

SBXVII 12-11-2013 10:04 AM

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We have Atlanta which was a playoff team last yr and not really terrible this year, Dallas, and the Giants left to play.

Again what if: Cousins plays well, looks good in a traditional West Coast Offense, and the team wins all 3 games? would that be good enough reason to keep MS one more yr, start Cousins next yr, and only bring someone new in at DC? Then between the draft and the $36 mill upgrade the OL, WR, and defense side of the ball?

DynamiteRave 12-11-2013 10:08 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;1048013]We have Atlanta which was a playoff team last yr and not really terrible this year, Dallas, and the Giants left to play.

Again what if: Cousins plays well, looks good in a traditional West Coast Offense, and the team wins all 3 games? would that be good enough reason to keep MS one more yr, start Cousins next yr, and only bring someone new in at DC? Then between the draft and the $36 mill upgrade the OL, WR, and defense side of the ball?[/quote]

After this 3-ring circus, he not only started, but is ringleading as well? Hell no.

SBXVII 12-11-2013 10:09 AM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1048011]Is SBXVII an evil genius? "I do believe there may be a Squatch in these woods."[/quote]

No I only bring it up cause everyone is "trade bait", "trade bait",.... showcase him for the highest draft pick.

I would rather keep Cousins honestly. I'm almost on the fence of saying trade RG3. I know its blasphemy, but what if we find out Cousins can read defenses better, change into the right plays based off of reading the defense, and is as accurate or better. < now what do I mean about accuracy? I see RG3 as accurate with in 20 yrds, beyond though it looks as if he just throws the ball up hoping the WR will go after it. What if Cousins is more accurate with the long ball?

Is there any way possible we fans could rally behind MS again with Cousins starting? All I'm wondering.

KI Skins Fan 12-11-2013 10:11 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;1048013]We have Atlanta which was a playoff team last yr and not really terrible this year, Dallas, and the Giants left to play.

Again what if: Cousins plays well, looks good in a traditional West Coast Offense, and the team wins all 3 games? would that be good enough reason to [B]keep MS one more yr[/B], start Cousins next yr, and only bring someone new in at DC? Then between the draft and the $36 mill upgrade the OL, WR, and defense side of the ball?[/quote]

At this point, that probably depends more on the trust and confidence that Snyder and Shanahan have in one another than anything else. Remember, these last few games are meaningless for the Skins.

Gmanc711 12-11-2013 10:12 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;1048009]Everyone naturally assumes starting Cousins is for two reasons

1- to keep RG3 healthy
2- to showcase Cousins for trade bait

But what if MS is trying to prove to DS that Cousins is better and can lead this team? If Cousins does well and the team wins.... do we keep MS for the final year, drop the read option, and start Cousins?[/quote]

Well I don't think either of those are REALLY the reasons Cousins is starting... I just think those are the two good things that actually come out of this and if you took all the drama aside, I think its a good move for those reasons.

Obviously when you add in all the factors, this is a disaster.

SBXVII 12-11-2013 10:13 AM

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1048015]After this 3-ring circus, he not only started, but is ringleading as well? Hell no.[/quote]

We fans really don't know the whole situation. The media and fan base has made this a 3 ring circus. and what if MS wanted to do this a lot earlier and DS or Allen said no you will play RG3. with nothing to lose why wouldn't you bench the star, and start the back up you wanted all along anyway? If he shines you can say "see I told you so", but if he bombs... oh well you probably were going to get fired anyway.

skinsfaninok 12-11-2013 10:16 AM

I hope kirk comes in and we win 3 straight because I want a 2nd round pick for him lol but I don't see us winning more than a game if even one. O well just another sad year for skins nation

Chico23231 12-11-2013 10:16 AM

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My opinion is just whatever at this point. Good thing is RG3 will be healthy next year and this moves assures Shanny will be fired.

Going forward, the QB position is nothing but a strength and the least of my worries.

I dont know if im gonna quit watching Skins football like I did doing the Zorn era, but its on the table. Ill have to watch some of the Cowboys game at least.

irish 12-11-2013 10:21 AM

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This is 14 weeks too late.

scowan 12-11-2013 10:21 AM

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The Redskins games just got "Flexed" off my schedule for the rest of the year. I didn't make my fantasy football league playoffs and the Skins suck, so my Sunday afternoons have just become 'open".

Have a great Holiday season everyone, the Redskins won't be, but at least I won't have to watch them.

artmonkforhallofamein07 12-11-2013 10:21 AM

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[quote=Mattyk;1047984]I won't be watching. F this team. Specifically, F Shanahan.[/quote]

I'll watch if I don't have something better to do with the family. I certainly won't be planning my Sunday around another one of their games this year.

I don't hate the team, but I certainly won't be backing the Shannys ever again.


---What a bunch of non-coaching ego driven cry baby pass the buck bunches of pieces of monkey shit coaches those two have turned out to be, hallelujah holy shit I need a Tylenol....

SBXVII 12-11-2013 10:23 AM

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[quote=KI Skins Fan;1048017]At this point, that probably depends more on the trust and confidence that Snyder and Shanahan have in one another than anything else. Remember, [B]these last few games are meaningless for the Skins[/B].[/quote]

Far from it.

I think if MS can prove his system is better, Cousins is the better QB in that system, and these last few games although do nothing for team standings is still playing against a last yr play off team (Falcons), and two divisional teams one being our rival that DS hates to lose against (Dallas) and the a team who's owner crapped down DS's throat with a penalty (Giants).

Our defense if abysmal I know and those teams will probably score a ton of points which means Cousins will have to be on point and scoring also and moving the ball. But if we can squeak out 3 decent wins..... I could see MS staying, the dumping of the read option, MS taking over the play calling, a new DC brought in, and god knows something has to be done with the special teams. Yes this team would be a cluster to the media in regards to the "franchise QB" not starting.

Look RG3 is the fan favorite I get that. RG3 must have been DS's boy he wanted I get that. but what if MS can prove that RG3 has trouble reading defenses? Cousins shows better as a pocket passer and reading defenses? Do we still just trade away Cousins, keep the fan favorite RG3, and move on?

skinsfaninok 12-11-2013 10:24 AM

[QUOTE=scowan;1048027]The Redskins games just got "Flexed" off my schedule for the rest of the year. I didn't make my fantasy football league playoffs and the Skins suck, so my Sunday afternoons have just become 'open".

Have a great Holiday season everyone, the Redskins won't be, but at least I won't have to watch them.[/QUOTE]

Merry Christmas

Chico23231 12-11-2013 10:26 AM

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Of cross the troll media is loving this. 3 consecutive headlines on pft. what a piece of shit Florio is. id like to run across that fuck

Gary84Clark 12-11-2013 10:26 AM

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[quote=SBXVII;1048021]We fans really don't know the whole situation. The media and fan base has made this a 3 ring circus. and what if MS wanted to do this a lot earlier and DS or Allen said no you will play RG3. with nothing to lose why wouldn't you bench the star, and start the back up you wanted all along anyway? If he shines you can say "see I told you so", but if he bombs... oh well you probably were going to get fired anyway.[/quote]

Did you not see how Cousins looked wiht taht o-,ine on sunday. Sack fumble Kirk. I guess you don't watch the games. Look at the statements your making you are definitley not the type that actually watches the games.

skinsfaninok 12-11-2013 10:27 AM

[QUOTE=artmonkforhallofamein07;1048029]I'll watch if I don't have something better to do with the family. I certainly won't be planning my Sunday around another one of their games this year.

I don't hate the team, but I certainly won't be backing the Shannys ever again.


---What a bunch of non-coaching ego driven cry baby pass the buck bunches of pieces of monkey shit coaches those two have turned out to be, hallelujah holy shit I need a Tylenol....[/QUOTE]

RG3 to Mike , Kyle , Cousins and media.

" kiss my ass , kiss his ass , kiss your ass , happy Hanukkah"

artmonkforhallofamein07 12-11-2013 10:31 AM

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[quote=skinsfaninok;1048035]RG3 to Mike , Kyle , Cousins and media.

" kiss my ass , kiss his ass , kiss your ass , happy Hanukkah"[/quote]

I love that movie

BTW go ahead and let the door hit you in the ass on the way out....

SFREDSKIN 12-11-2013 10:32 AM

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I want Cousins to do well, I see this an opportunity for him to get us a high pick for him. On the other hand, he could also be a bust.


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