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dmek25 12-17-2013 10:05 AM

2014 salary cap....and the money we have
 
with all of this talk about the 36 million dollar penalty, how much will the skins have to spend next season?
this article says around 36 million

[url=http://www.csnwashington.com/football-washington-redskins/talk/redskins-2014-money-spend-needs-fill]Redskins 2014: Money to spend, needs to fill | Comcast SportsNet Washington[/url]

dmek25 12-17-2013 10:06 AM

Re: 2014 salary cap....and the money we have
 
maybe our resident salary cap guru can figure it out for us

Schneed10 12-17-2013 11:21 AM

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On the case. I'm analyzing as we speak. Eventually I'll do one of those Cap Status threads, but I'll put some general comments here.

Schneed10 12-17-2013 11:43 AM

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It's a buttload. $36 million looks to be about on it. Some of that would have to be used to resign departing players that we wanted to keep (Orakpo). But yeah, we will not be limited by $ this year, it will be a matter of whether there are enough valuable players available on the market.

dmek25 12-17-2013 12:20 PM

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thanks, and i guess that can be incorporated into this thread. who do we resign? and who is available to sign?
with a quick glance, what does it cost the skins to part ways with fletcher and morgan?

Jayroc24 12-17-2013 01:24 PM

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I thought Flecther was on a 2 yr deal that ends this year?

MTK 12-17-2013 01:34 PM

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Fletcher has a team void option, Morgan too. See ya.

CrazyCanuck 12-17-2013 01:49 PM

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I'll get some 2014 cap sheets up in the coming weeks.

los panda 12-17-2013 03:58 PM

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looking forward to the offseason :/

Hijinx 12-17-2013 04:50 PM

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[quote=los panda;1049900]looking forward to the offseason :/[/quote]

every year

The Goat 12-17-2013 06:28 PM

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[quote=Mattyk;1049871]Fletcher has a team void option, Morgan too. See ya.[/quote]

Way to go BA!!

los panda 01-10-2014 04:17 PM

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can't wait for cc's cap sheets!

NYCskinfan82 01-10-2014 04:19 PM

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Good stuff can't wait to see who we sign.

CrazyCanuck 01-10-2014 04:33 PM

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[quote=los panda;1054805]can't wait for cc's cap sheets![/quote]

Ya sorry guys been really busy. I'm gonna do my best to get new cap sheets up this weekend.

TheGuyFromOverThere 01-10-2014 04:40 PM

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So, what would you opt for? Blow it all and get right back to the cap-top or keep some 5-10 Millions in reserve for opportunities in this season or maybe next year?

RobH4413 01-10-2014 05:02 PM

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[url=http://overthecap.com/calculator/?Team=Redskins]Salary Cap Calculator - Over the Cap[/url]

Haven't seen this anywhere until now.

Pretty sweet tool to fudge around with the cap and see what kind of shape we're in.

SFREDSKIN 01-10-2014 09:49 PM

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I would add Grossman, Rocca, Moss.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1913145-10-washington-redskins-who-will-be-on-the-roster-bubble-in-2014]10 Washington Redskins Who Will Be on the Roster Bubble in 2014 | Bleacher Report[/url]

redskins5044 01-10-2014 09:57 PM

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[quote=SFREDSKIN;1054826]I would add Grossman, Rocca, Moss.

[url=http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1913145-10-washington-redskins-who-will-be-on-the-roster-bubble-in-2014]10 Washington Redskins Who Will Be on the Roster Bubble in 2014 | Bleacher Report[/url][/quote]

Well Moss and Gross are FA's so technically they can't be on the roster bubble unless we sign them again.

SFREDSKIN 01-10-2014 09:59 PM

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[quote=redskins5044;1054827]Well Moss and Gross are FA's so technically they can't be on the roster bubble unless we sign them again.[/quote]

No need to waste cap space on those 2, they are washed up, especially Moss.

skinsfaninok 01-10-2014 11:02 PM

Moss is done I'm actually surprised he hasn't retired yet

sdskinsfan2001 01-11-2014 12:47 AM

Re: 2014 salary cap....and the money we have
 
[quote=TheGuyFromOverThere;1054809]So, what would you opt for? Blow it all and get right back to the cap-top or keep some 5-10 Millions in reserve for opportunities in this season or maybe next year?[/quote]

Keep some in reserves, it seems like a few teams get in cap hell every year, where they have to cut half their roster loose because they signed too many guys at high price contracts. I'd rather be consistent every year, then ebb up and down w/ the talent on the roster.

SouperMeister 01-11-2014 12:49 AM

Re: 2014 salary cap....and the money we have
 
[quote=TheGuyFromOverThere;1054809]So, what would you opt for? Blow it all and get right back to the cap-top or keep some 5-10 Millions in reserve for opportunities in this season or maybe next year?[/quote]Do NOT blow it all in one offseason. I'm guessing that Alf's initial deal is up after next season. Same with Trent. We need to be smart with the cap to keep our key nucleus guys together for 4-5 years without sacrificing depth.

skinsfaninok 01-11-2014 12:53 AM

[QUOTE=CrazyCanuck;1054807]Ya sorry guys been really busy. I'm gonna do my best to get new cap sheets up this weekend.[/QUOTE]

What are we paying u for??

skinsfaninok 01-11-2014 12:53 AM

[QUOTE=SouperMeister;1054834]Do NOT blow it all in one offseason. I'm guessing that Alf's initial deal is up after next season. Same with Trent. We need to be smart with the cap to keep our key nucleus guys together for 4-5 years without sacrificing depth.[/QUOTE]

Yeah Trent will be a 70 million dollar guy IMO.

FRPLG 01-11-2014 01:26 AM

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We'll if there aren't enough FAs worth the money we have to spend we need to restructure some guys INTO next season to create flexibility in later years. No reason to walk around next year with more than a couple million for in season moves at the very most. Convert some bonuses into salary and so forth to eat up the extra space then in '15 we should have good space too.

delusional optimist 01-11-2014 02:30 AM

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I personally think both Bowen and Carriker need to be let go.Bowen will cost us over 7 mil against the cap and really hasn't done jack the last 2 yrs.1 sack 4 pd and 5 TFL in the last 2 seasons? Carriker is due nearly 7 mill and he hasn't played in 2 yrs.I like Carriker but he is more body builder than football player.

Not sure how much of that is Guaranteed but i'm sure the release of those 2 would clear up some more space.Does that create a hole? Sure but is that position not a hole as it is? Why not clear some space to actually fill it instead of hanging on to these 2?

Also Golston will cost over a mill and he should have been let go yrs ago. This is one of the reasons i was hoping we would move to a 4-3 base. Even with the release of these 3 (and the cap space that would free up) we would still have Cofield , Jenkins and Neild at the DT position with Rak( franchised) and Kerrigan at DE. I think all of those guys are better fits in a 4-3 than a 3-4

That Guy 01-11-2014 05:48 AM

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i think i'd like to keep orakpo, riley, jackson and doughty... maybe kehl, but only orakpo should be expensive out of that list. if d hall isn't looking for crazy cash, i'm okay with him, but not as our #1 CB.

we NEED a safety and #1 CB, for real. grabbing a WR and OT would be a good move too (price/performance WR, like britt or maybe boldin). OT can basically be any of the top 15 FAs and it'd be a huge improvement.

delusional optimist 01-11-2014 06:23 AM

Re: 2014 salary cap....and the money we have
 
[quote=That Guy;1054841]i think i'd like to keep orakpo, riley, jackson and doughty... maybe kehl, but only orakpo should be expensive out of that list. if d hall isn't looking for crazy cash, i'm okay with him, but not as our #1 CB.

we NEED a safety and #1 CB, for real. grabbing a WR and OT would be a good move too (price/performance WR, like britt or maybe boldin). OT can basically be any of the top 15 FAs and it'd be a huge improvement.[/quote]

Read the other night where Hall said he was likely to re-sign and would quote "love " to be moved to safety

Evilgrin 01-11-2014 09:29 AM

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[quote=RobH4413;1054814][url=http://overthecap.com/calculator/?Team=Redskins]Salary Cap Calculator - Over the Cap[/url]

Haven't seen this anywhere until now.

Pretty sweet tool to fudge around with the cap and see what kind of shape we're in.[/quote]

I love this site, and all I gotta say is "HOW BOUT THEM COWBOYS!"

GTripp0012 01-11-2014 09:49 AM

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The Redskins need an influx of talent, but the main focus is still going to be the draft. They just need to take this three win team and make sure they have a seven win team going into draft day. Free agents can help put the professionalism back in the organization, but the ascension is going to have to come on the backs of youth.

Put the premium on speed on both sides of the ball and tackling on the defensive side.

Shopping list:

-Re-sign the best pass rusher on the market
-Re-sign Perry Riley
-#1 receiver
-#1 corner
-2 versatile guards that can hold up in pass protection
-A competent (cheap) tackle that can compete with Tyler Polumbus in camp
-Veteran ILB
-Big 3-4 defensive end who actually has a pass rush move or two

That's 8-9 signings, including two re-signings. The #1 receiver is really going to be more of a 1a receiver. True #1 don't hit the market. So your model is really the Chicago Bears (who got Jeffery in the second round). Two nominal #1 types are as good as one stud. And Garcon can be a nominal #1 as long as he's not the best pure receiver in the group.

I'm not totally sold Hankerson won't become that player, but you can't wait on him any longer. He's in a contract year.

GTripp0012 01-11-2014 09:56 AM

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Here are the veteran releases:

-Chester
-Bowen
-Carriker
-Paulsen
-Paul
-Doughty, probably
-Fletcher, Morgan, Meriweather all have termination options built into their contracts. Move across the board.

You can release other veterans later if you draft replacements, but those guys are frivolous at the moment.

GTripp0012 01-11-2014 10:05 AM

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Here are the seven players I would target:

- WR Hakeem Nicks OR WR James Jones (Not both)
- OT Anthony Collins
- G Chad Rinehart
- G Mike Pollak
- DE/DT Randy Starks
- LB Daryl Smith
- CB Brent Grimes

skinsfanthru&thru 01-11-2014 05:57 PM

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I seriously don't know what else people expect Garçon to do to prove he's our legit #1 wr. I'd like a solid #2 who can also be a 1a type wr like Decker or Nicks and obviously o-line and secondary are the main areas of need.

EARTHQUAKE2689 01-11-2014 06:07 PM

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;1054902][B]I seriously don't know what else people expect Garçon to do to prove he's our legit #1 wr[/B]. I'd like a solid #2 who can also be a 1a type wr like Decker or Nicks and obviously o-line and secondary are the main areas of need.[/quote]


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Lotus 01-11-2014 06:22 PM

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[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;1054902][B]I seriously don't know what else people expect Garçon to do to prove he's our legit #1 wr. [/B]I'd like a solid #2 who can also be a 1a type wr like Decker or Nicks and obviously o-line and secondary are the main areas of need.[/quote]

It would be more obvious if he had more long pass plays on his resume. But I think that this is not his fault.

Jayroc24 01-11-2014 08:00 PM

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In order-
1. O line
2. D secondary
3. Linebacker
4. Depth

donofriose 01-11-2014 08:03 PM

Re: 2014 salary cap....and the money we have
 
[quote=skinsfanthru&thru;1054902]I seriously don't know what else people expect Garçon to do to prove he's our legit #1 wr. I'd like a solid #2 who can also be a 1a type wr like Decker or Nicks and obviously o-line and secondary are the main areas of need.[/quote]

He is a legit number one. The problem with Garçon is he hasn't made enough game changing plays to be nationally recognized.

Monkeydad 01-13-2014 10:17 AM

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We need to stay far away from Nicks. He pouted and cried for more money than Cruz, so what did he do in his contract year? He sucked. Big time. No touchdowns and looked like he was giving half effort most of the time. Plus, he's injured pretty often.

He's going to want too much money for what he's worth and probably won't be on the field half of the games if we sign him.

skinsfaninok 01-13-2014 10:21 AM

[QUOTE=Monkeydad;1055300]We need to stay far away from Nicks. He pouted and cried for more money than Cruz, so what did he do in his contract year? He sucked. Big time. No touchdowns and looked like he was giving half effort most of the time. Plus, he's injured pretty often.

He's going to want too much money for what he's worth and probably won't be on the field half of the games if we sign him.[/QUOTE]

This

Gary84Clark 01-13-2014 10:33 AM

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[quote=Monkeydad;1055300]We need to stay far away from Nicks. He pouted and cried for more money than Cruz, so what did he do in his contract year? He sucked. Big time. No touchdowns and looked like he was giving half effort most of the time. Plus, he's injured pretty often.

He's going to want too much money for what he's worth and probably won't be on the field half of the games if we sign him.[/quote]

Disagree, we need talent not good guys who can't catch.


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