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Great read on Matt Jones, the freak from Arkansas.

QB, 6'6", 240 pounds, 4.4 in the 40, 40 inch vertical.

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I watched Arkansas twice this year and at least once last year. Jones is an amazing athlete and a mediocre QB. He does not have a great arm and he is not all that accurate.

Now as a WR, that athleticism and that size could be very attractive.

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i heard from espn that he should go late first round or early second. I never would like to take him w/our pic but if we can trade down and pic up two pics like 1 late first and 1 second i wouldn't mind him. They say he will move to WR because he isn't that good at qb but i saw a tape with him doing mike vick stuff but breaking tackles to a like 60 yard touchdown, then slam it into the goal post with a huge leep

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man i want to get this guy

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[QUOTE=Big C]man i want to get this guy[/QUOTE]

This is how Mort ended that article;



"Matt Jones won't be among the top 10 players selected in the April 23-24 draft, but I will venture to say that he'll play in more Pro Bowls than almost any of those guys."

HOLY CRAP! If you can't get pumped about that, you need to have your pulse checked!

I mean, what do you do? I think Mort is a pretty solid guy and he is loving Jones.

I wonder if he is even in the skins radar?!

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[QUOTE=Schneed10]Great read on Matt Jones, the freak from Arkansas.

QB, 6'6", 240 pounds, 4.4 in the 40, 40 inch vertical.

[url="http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/draft05/columns/story?columnist=mortensen_chris&id=2025109"]http://proxy.espn.go.com/nfl/draft05/columns/story?columnist=mortensen_chris&id=2025109[/url][/QUOTE]

I'd love the Skins to draft him he's a freak of nature. The guy has speed, can catch, tuff guy. plays hard all the time.

Looks like a Joe gibbs type player to me.

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article from 2001 about Matt Jones. I love the last sentence by coach Nutt (he he he)

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[font=Verdana]From the Arkansas Gazette[/font]
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[font=Verdana]"He’s got the versatility to play a lot of positions in our league, with quarterback probably being one of them also," said Washington Redskins offensive assistant Jack Burns, a former [/font][font=Verdana]Arkansas[/font][font=Verdana] graduate assistant. "He’s got a great upside and can do a lot of things to help a football team." [/font]
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[font=Verdana]I wonder what the skins are thinking with this guy? [/font]
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[font=Verdana]Would it be nuts to take him at 9? I know all along I've been saying mike williams, but when you look at both of them together, side by side. Jones is taller, 25 pounds heavier, faster, jumps higher, and has better hands by all accounts![/font]

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[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon]I watched Arkansas twice this year and at least once last year. Jones is an amazing athlete and a mediocre QB. He does not have a great arm and he is not all that accurate.

Now as a WR, that athleticism and that size could be very attractive.[/QUOTE]

Maybe it's just me, but I see him as a tightend. Kinda like Jay Novacek but he maybe faster.

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[QUOTE=gortiz][font=Verdana]Would it be nuts to take him at 9? I know all along I've been saying mike williams, but when you look at both of them together, side by side. Jones is taller, 25 pounds heavier, faster, jumps higher, and has better hands by all accounts![/font][/QUOTE]

Ninth overall is probably high, since we'd convert him to a position he's never played before. At 9 overall I think you want to be pretty darn sure of what you're getting. This guy has lots of promise, but in the end you really don't know what kind of WR he's going to be.

I think the Skins would have to do some maneuvering to get him. They'd have to trade down to grab picks later in the 1st round and grab a 2nd rounder.

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I agree Ninth pick is to high for a guy who is a project at best. yes I agree he is a freak and is an amazing athelete. I have witnessed it time n again whenever my longhorns have gone up again arkansas. He was a one man show for that team!!
If we can somehow get a 2nd round pick we should definetly get him then if he is available. I don't seem him playing TE as he is not interested in playing that position. I think he opens the game for us with some trick plays especially in the red zone!!
I can't wait for the season to begin!! HTTR


[QUOTE=Schneed10]Ninth overall is probably high, since we'd convert him to a position he's never played before. At 9 overall I think you want to be pretty darn sure of what you're getting. This guy has lots of promise, but in the end you really don't know what kind of WR he's going to be.

I think the Skins would have to do some maneuvering to get him. They'd have to trade down to grab picks later in the 1st round and grab a 2nd rounder.[/QUOTE]

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If I were a personnel guy I would consider drafting him and figuring out what to do with him afterwards, but in all seriousness I think Matt Jones is a guy who can create mismatches all over the field. As a quarterback, it'd be hard to try to put a spy on him since he is much faster and about as strong as just about any linebacker. As a receiver, it would piss a cornerback off to know that jamming isn't really an option and if you let him go and try to cover him step for step you'll probably get burned. Also, with his height and crazy vertical he could get just about any jump ball over the corner.

Just to throw this out there: remember how Joe Gibbs really utilized the H-back position, this could be one of the guys that can play a new hybrid type position.

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actually i read he ran 4.37, i say at that spped with his size and weight he's got it going on over mike williams. i'm sorry guys but i just get all excited about mister willams unless he can spped up some. a year out of school plus the jump to the pros is very tough, not saying he can't do it but will be suprised to see him make an impact in the first year, (foot note he was done wrong by the ncaa), just not the type of reciever to take over a game. recivers in our system are not required to be all that, ala the smurfs, small and quick. and we still won the super bowl. i think we should draft a wr but not high.

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I'm never a fan on taking a big gamble on someone changing from QB to anything out of college. It's a big gamble. If we can trade up our 3rd rounder (and gardner maybe) for a decent 2nd pick we may be able to pick him up. Other than that, I doubt we have a legitimate shot at him.

Eric Crouch ring any bells?

56Fan - the thing about Williams has never been his speed. It's his ability to nab any jump-ball, and never dropping a pass that makes him so valuable. His speed concerns me a bit too, but he'd be great because of the sure hands especially for a team that moved the ball decently on occassions, but had trouble getting the score out of it.

I don't think Gibbs likes McCants enough to make him our Monk (though I wouldn't be opposed to seeing that)

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could he be a TE or is he holding to be a WR i mean he could be the best TE in the game we just need to know if he can block. i just don't know how good his hands are because he was a QB and i don't know how some of u can say "he has better hands [than mike williams] by all accounts"

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If he's switched to TE he'd be somewhat of a waste in this offense. Though TEs get a lot of playtime in Gibbs's offense, they also don't catch THAT many balls. He'd probably make an excellent Hback for someone, but if we had a guy with great hands and speed I'm sure Gibbs would get him the ball some! Cooley Hback, this guy at TE would be nasty.

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does anyone think that we may actually get this guy by trading down or anything like that

i mean he is an athlete but i would like more experience at catching. He does have skill though. i mean there are athletes in the draft like Fabian Washington who clocked an awsome 3.28 at the CB position and ofcourse Derrick johnson who may be the best athlete in the draft. Williamson w/ great speed at WR who espn says is the fastest guy in the draft and that one guy that self proclaimed himself the fastest man in college sports who got the a 4.3 at the combine. all i am saying there are athletes but that as we all know isn't the only thing, that is why matt jones isn't projected to go in the top 16 or even in the first round

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[QUOTE=Daseal]If he's switched to TE he'd be somewhat of a waste in this offense. Though TEs get a lot of playtime in Gibbs's offense, they also don't catch THAT many balls. He'd probably make an excellent Hback for someone, but if we had a guy with great hands and speed I'm sure Gibbs would get him the ball some! Cooley Hback, this guy at TE would be nasty.[/QUOTE]
I C is he considering being a TE though i heard him say he is focusing on WR i would love it if he could block, not many good TE exept Heath in the draft


200!!!

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if this kid has a good head on his shoulders then no one is goign to be able to cover this guy. We arent going to take him at 9, but why not. 9 is where our pick is, yea you might feel better taking him in the 2nd round but no player is a guarantee and we dont have a second rounder. If we can trade down, then great. But you know someone is going to take a gamble on this kid. I wouldnt be surprised if he ended up top 20.

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Jones is unpolished and defiently a project he wasen't catching ball's to cleanly at the combine he will need a lot of work, I don't see him going in the first, but second I would say defiently.

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Jones has awfully skinny legs for me to think of him as a tight end. If - and I really do mean IF - he actually weighs 240 lbs, then none of that weight is from his knees down. I'd be loathe to make him into a TE where a DE or a LB could bang on him.

You want to roll the dice on him - not in the first round at #9 and maybe not even in the 2nd round? How about taking him and trying to make him a CB?

He is already fast but in addition he is huge. He would tower over even the tallest of the current crop or WRs in the NFL. The question is: can he/will he hit people on running plays...

As a QB, I would not take him until about Round 7.

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He's being projected as a WR in this draft.

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[QUOTE=sportscurmudgeon]Jones has awfully skinny legs for me to think of him as a tight end. If - and I really do mean IF - he actually weighs 240 lbs, then none of that weight is from his knees down. I'd be loathe to make him into a TE where a DE or a LB could bang on him.

You want to roll the dice on him - not in the first round at #9 and maybe not even in the 2nd round? How about taking him and trying to make him a CB?

He is already fast but in addition he is huge. He would tower over even the tallest of the current crop or WRs in the NFL. The question is: can he/will he hit people on running plays...

As a QB, I would not take him until about Round 7.[/QUOTE]



Come on SC your not serious are you? :pi_lightb

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any draft pick at 9 is a gamble, and this year, id say there is 2 or 3 sure starters... so there is no problem taking a guy who is 6'6 240 running a 4.4 40.... and chris mort saying he has the best hands out of the draft... no matter who we pick at 9... its going to be a gamble... id take it on matt to be honest... bring him in, he's got way way to much upside. split him wide, motion out of backfield, slot, trick play qb, and emergency qb

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anyone could be a bust this draft... braylon could be the next david terrell
aaron rogers could be the next tim couch
cedric benson could be the next ron dayne or rasham sallam or whatever
the point is why not draft a guy with the best upside, and pure athlete available? all he is missing is fundamentals and that can be taught.

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[url]http://scout.scout.com/a.z?s=71&p=8&c=1&nid=1336309[/url]

you have to pay for this site on most articles, but it does show you the headlines, and it does show gibbs has a notice on the "FREAK"

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Not too many guys switch positions and succeed in the NFL. Actually I can't even think of one that succeeded. Sorry but this guy would be a reach even in the third round let alone 1st. NO DICE!

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[QUOTE=saden1]Not too many guys switch positions and succeed in the NFL. Actually I can't even think of one that succeeded. Sorry but this guy would be a reach even in the third round let alone 1st. NO DICE![/QUOTE]
Hines Ward - former QB, consistent Pro Bowl WR

Antawnn Randle-El - former QB, dangerous WR

Brian Mitchell - former QB, future HoF (fingers crossed) return man

The odds aren't great, but this kid looks good.

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[QUOTE=BrudLee]Hines Ward - former QB, consistent Pro Bowl WR

Antawnn Randle-El - former QB, dangerous WR

Brian Mitchell - former QB, future HoF (fingers crossed) return man

The odds aren't great, but this kid looks good.[/QUOTE]

Brud you left out probably the best example Sean Bennett of tennessee, he was a former college QB in the exact mold of Jones.

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[QUOTE=BrudLee]Hines Ward - former QB, consistent Pro Bowl WR

Antawnn Randle-El - former QB, dangerous WR

Brian Mitchell - former QB, future HoF (fingers crossed) return man

The odds aren't great, but this kid looks good.[/QUOTE]


Wasnt Drew Bennett(SP) of the titans a college QB?

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Take Matt Jones at #9. At least you will get an explosive, athletic player. Mike Williams reminds me to much of a couple other wide recievers that the Redskins drafted - Rod Gardner, 15th pick in 1st round and Michael Westbrook, 4th pick in 1st round. Both tall and not explosive. IF you can get a trade partner, trade down and get Jones later. But I think that is a BIG IF in this draft.

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espn insider says he has character issues, big ones,... he doesn't want to learn they say, " Has a very nonchalant attitude. Not sure if he loves playing the game of football. ", joe gibbs guy? " Doesn't seem overly willing[to learn], which is a big concern."

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i just don't see us getting him w/ the ninth.
its a waste trade down and pic up a second. take a nap for a while he isn't going anywhere until 25+ pic AT BEST, use a second rounder if we trade down and pic up a d-line man for the hell of it but don't pic this guy at 9 and that just isn't gonna happen

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Everyone is drooling over this guy's physical attributes, but I'm a little concerned about a guy coming in to the league having to learn a new position. There's been many physical freaks to come through the league that have never amounted to anything.

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Brock Lesnar ring a bell anyone. He is the definition of a freak and you'd think that SOME coach could mold him into something usable, but it just wasn't happening. Now I'm sure that Jones would be a bit easier to teach than Lesnar, but it's just tough.

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TWO WORDS!! ANTONIO GATES!!

Didn't play college football, and the last time he played any football was in Highschool! C'mon man!

Atheletic ability is rare comodity. Jones is worth a 9th round pick.

Who wants another Desmond Howard, Mike Westbroken, Heath Schuler!!!

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I would say a 9th round pick, but that's about it.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]I would say a 9th round pick, but that's about it.[/QUOTE]

ha ha ha ha ha, lets just hope no one else sees that! (9th round!)

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Sorry I forgot my ;).

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saden1:

Rayfield Wright of the Cowboys started out as a TE and wound up as an All-Pro OT for years. He may even be in the HoF...

Lenny Moore was a RB in college and a RB when he first came to the NFL but wound up in the HoF as a WR.

Charley Taylor was a RB who did OK as a WR - or am I remembering wrong?

Paul Hornung was a QB at Notre Dame but is in the HoF as an NFL RB.

Calvin Hill was a fullback in college (Yale no less) and an All-Pro TE in the NFL.



offiss:

I was kidding about taking him as a CB. After all the glowing remarks about his physical prowess, it seemed to me that you could project him there too.

But I wan't kidding about waiting a LONG time to draft him if you think he's your QB of the future - - because I don't think he'll ever be a big time NFL QB.