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PSUskinsfan11 04-01-2005 06:30 PM

Possible MLB?
 
I know Barrow is "ahead of schedule" and Clifton Smith is promising, BUT the Texans just released Jamie Sharper. I don't know what kind of money he would want but this guy is a monster. He is a 9 year vet but he has at least 4 years left in him. I wonder if we will give him a look. I know Barrow's cap hit isn't very big if he is released so it could be possible.

Skinsfanatic 04-01-2005 06:37 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
Excellent idea, I was about to post it myself.

SKINSnCANES 04-01-2005 07:13 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
why was he released? was it for cap reasons, injuries, performance?

I agree hes worth looking at if barrow doesnt look like he;ll be ready, and like you said, assuming he doesnt want big money.

Didnt Gibbs say they were done looking at free agency though? I guess you are never really dotn looking at it if someone new is realeased, but we dot have much money and do have to sign the 9th pick in the draft.

BigSKINBauer 04-01-2005 07:34 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
i mean we could sign him and keep barrow, barrow will only save us like 70000 dollars or somin like that this year, i think. I don't think we could afford any more big name players. but it would be nice. I just hope barrow gets better and if he does i don't see any need of any other player.

PSUskinsfan11 04-01-2005 07:40 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
he was only released because of cap

madisonwm 04-01-2005 07:44 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
i am an alum of the college of william and mary, and i had the pleasure to see his brother darren play, and if he's anything like his brother i think he could be a solid player for us.........(unfortunately jamie had chosen to be a cavalier instead of following in his brothers tribe footsteps in college....but i can overlook that if we can get brokass barrow out of here....

CRT3 04-01-2005 07:44 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
He was released because the Texans are going to a 3-4 and need more speed. He is an outside linebacker and I believe he plays the SAM position. Don't think this would be a smart fit for us. Anybody see the Broncos pick up of Dayne. I have always liked him and he should really help them out considering we stole Portis from them. Thanks Champ

SKINSnCANES 04-01-2005 07:53 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
Even with them trading Droughns, why would they get Danye. Dayne wanted to go somewhere to prove himsefl. Denver would make him look good if he played, but hes behind Mike Anderson, Tatum Bell already on the depth chart.

MTK 04-01-2005 07:58 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
He may be worth a look, but I think we're pretty set with Barrow (assuming he's healthy), Marshall and Smith.

jdlea 04-02-2005 12:15 AM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
I think Ron Dayne is a fraud. IMO he's one of the worst backs in the league has ever seen. Laurence Phillips bad. He's done nothing but steal money during his NFL career. He had one good season and one good game last year. If I were Denver I wouldn't have picked him up...that said, Denver will probably make a 1500 yard rusher out of him...lol.

Wow...talk about a run-on sentence

Big C 04-02-2005 01:26 AM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
i thought he got released cuz he didnt want to be there anymore or something. but hes solid, great tackler, gettin a little old tho

DragoJT87 04-02-2005 06:01 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
Sharper was 7th in the league last year in tackles with 139 and led the league in 2003 with 166. This guy would be a steal if he's not looking for a lot of money. Even if he had one tackle last year he would have been more productive than Barrow. I am, however, extremely partial to homegrown talent and it would be nice to have Marshall or Smith be the starter.

mooby 04-02-2005 07:56 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
i don't think the skins will go after him. they probably feel that lemar marshall deserves it after the way he played last year, and jamie sharper might want big money. i would release barrow, and that crappy center, cory raymer, now that we have casey rabach. these guys both were busts. plus with us trading rod gardner that would free up about two million more under the cap. and joe gibbs said he was finished shopping in free agency, but if somebody got released the skins might be interested in him.

Daseal 04-03-2005 10:50 AM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
You say you're finished shopping, but if a good cheap player falls on your doorstep you gotta pick him up if you can!

BigSKINBauer 04-03-2005 11:44 AM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
[QUOTE=Daseal]You say you're finished shopping, but if a good cheap player falls on your doorstep you gotta pick him up if you can![/QUOTE]

how cheap is he gonna come? ballpark figure? anyone

Defensewins 04-03-2005 11:58 AM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
He won't come cheap, as DragoJT87 said, Sharper was 7th in the NFL last year in tackles. Led the NFL in tackles the year before.
That does not sound like someone who will come cheap.

skinsguy 04-03-2005 05:01 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
[QUOTE=Daseal]You say you're finished shopping, but if a good cheap player falls on your doorstep you gotta pick him up if you can![/QUOTE]


I can understand this concept if there was no salary cap...after all, depth is a good thing. Unfortunately, with the salary cap, picking up a player that we may not have a use for doesn't seem very logical if we have X amount of dollars to spend. I would say to address areas that we have a larger need for.

Daseal 04-03-2005 07:06 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
It's pretty obvious that you only pick him up if you can fit them under the cap. I think he'd be a good signing if he came cheap.

wolfeskins 04-03-2005 07:22 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
if barrow is at full strength when the season starts , he'll prolly be the starter. i don't consider him as being a bust as some of you have suggested, he was injured just like lavar. barrow is a very good mlb when healthy. it would be great if he could return and have a good year for us.

EternalEnigma21 04-03-2005 09:20 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
Barrow is only considered a bust because he didnt come cheap and he's old and dealing with career threatening tendinitis issues. He could possibly come back and captain our defense next year and do well, and I hope he does. I doubt Sharper is a possibility. His only motivation to coming to the skins would be money, and we cant give it to him right now. There are several teams who need a MLB that have the $ to spend. We're not one of them. BTW... he did finish 7th in tackles and led the league the year befor while playing on one of the bottom 5 defenses both years.

skinsguy 04-03-2005 09:38 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
[QUOTE=Daseal]It's pretty obvious that you only pick him up if you can fit them under the cap. I think he'd be a good signing if he came cheap.[/QUOTE]


Once we have addressed all the major areas in need and if we have room under the cap, then yeah, I agree. Like I said, depth is a good thing. Of course having that extra salary cap room can prove just as much of a good thing, obviously. But, I wouldn't go out and grab a guy that plays something like MLB when maybe the depth issues are more problematic in other areas. Not saying this is necessarily so in the MLB position for the Redskins. However I wouldn't, for example, go out and grab a running back knowing I had depth in that area even though the free agent is a quality player and you MIGHT get him cheap. But, then again, if the guy shows that he is a quality players, you're probably not going to get him very cheap to begin with.

lifetimeskin 04-03-2005 11:28 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
I don't see any reason why we shouldn't go after Sharper. The fact that Marshall played above average last season as an OUTSIDE linebacker, does not mean he will play at the same level as as MIDDLE line backer. Yes, I am aware that Pierce made that change successfully, but that doesn't mean all others can.

If he can be gotten for value, then get him, if not, then pass up. Sharper is a quality player, but the skins should show restrain on the cap hit.

Redskins8588 04-04-2005 02:50 AM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
[QUOTE=lifetimeskin]I don't see any reason why we shouldn't go after Sharper. The fact that Marshall played above average last season as an OUTSIDE linebacker, does not mean he will play at the same level as as MIDDLE line backer. Yes, I am aware that Pierce made that change successfully, but that doesn't mean all others can.

If he can be gotten for value, then get him, if not, then pass up. Sharper is a quality player, but the skins should show restrain on the cap hit.[/QUOTE]
Read this article it will clear up as to why the coaching staff feels that Marshall is more than able to step in at MLB. [url]http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=citadel-2_365670_71&prov=citadel&type=story[/url]

Anyhow nothing against Sharper, but we would not be gaining much, I mean he would still have to relearn the MLB position in Williams schems. I am not saying that he cant do it, but why bring someone in when there is someone here that has a year under his belt in the system?

John Hasbrouck 04-04-2005 12:24 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
Sharper would cost us to much

MTK 04-04-2005 12:30 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
Stick with what we've got, MLB is not a huge priority and if Williams is comfortable with what he's got at that spot, so am I.

TheMalcolmConnection 04-04-2005 12:33 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
Exactly. I really would love to see the fruits of Marshall's efforts last year coming into effect.

JoeRedskin 04-04-2005 12:47 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
I have to admit, I have always been partial to good MLB's. I like the big, run stuffing, "I'm gonna kill you bad" kind. Marshall doesn't really fit into that mold. But, as with most, I am all about Williams - if Marshall is good enough for Williams, Marshall's good enough for me.

TheMalcolmConnection 04-04-2005 03:21 PM

Re: Possible MLB?
 
AND he's talking about bulking up for the position too. I think he could fit the bill you're talking about if he puts on some muscle. I remember Marshall laying down some nasty hits last year too.

Since we had SO many, his didn't quite make the highlight reels.


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