(rumor) lavar on crutches again after another surgery
 

there is no source but a guy on extremeskins who is supposedly very reliable
said that lavar has had surgery on his knee again and his status for the start of the season is in doubt

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Yup, it's true....just read about it on Washingtonpost.com. He sounds pretty bitter towards Gibbs & the Skins too.

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I'm beginning to hate Arrington. With his cap number, this guy has to be on the field. Who's performing these surgeries anyway? You would think our team doctors are externs at DC General. Could this be the reason Coles didn't want to go under the knife with us? :oink:

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[url]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44371-2005Apr11.html[/url]

found the link

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Wow. That article really reinforces the fact that linebacker must be addressed next weekend.

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I love LaVar but he tends to go overboard at times with his emotions.

Calm down, nobody is out to get you. Get healthy and get back on the field.

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Sounds like he's mostly ticked about the lack of attention regarding his surgery.

I guess he wanted it to be front page news on ESPN or something. :rolleyes:

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I'm speechless!!! Sounds to me like Arrington is frustrated that his knee isn't getting any better. I remember during the season, the return date of Lavar Arrington kept getting pushed back; at least to me, that doesn't look like the Redskins were trying to push him back onto the field too soon.

I can see Lavar being concerned that his knee may never be 100% and that he may have to retire. However, from the team's point of view, they're paying Lavar a massive amount of money and expect him to play to earn it.

I don't know, I'll have to think about this interview some more. Right now, it sounds too much like Lavar crying "what about me?"

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With the ninth pick of 2005 NFL draft the Washington Redskins select Derrick Johnson University of Texas. :oink:

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This absolutely screws things up for Madden 2006. This is serious. :oink:

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Here's how I see it.

On the surface it's easy to say this is just another whine session from LaVar. Partly it is. On the other hand, he's frustrated over his injury, and rightfully so. He's a passionate guy who wants nothing more than to be on the field, he's missed alot of time and could possibly miss more, so of course he's upset and wants to vent.

LaVar is the kind of player that needs a pat on the back once in a while. He's frustrated by being a spectator and he wants to be in the middle of the action (and the attention).

I wouldn't look too far into this latest "episode". Gibbs will talk him down, LaVar will come out and say how much he loves the Redskins and the fans and it will blow over with time.

Nothing will come of it, he's not going to be traded or cut, there's simply no way to get around his cap figure, and frankly I don't see this as the kind of thing that will put a huge divide between him and the team.

He's pissed and frustrated and he's letting it be known because he didn't make the headlines when he had the surgery last week. Perhaps the staff wanted to keep things quiet as to not make a scene or a big deal (out of what sounds like a relatively minor knee scope), but LaVar is taking care of that himself quite nicely.

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LaVar is a passionate guy so he is obviously going to show his frustration.He always wants to be the best and when he is slowed by injury it pisses him off. It seems like the injury was more serious than it was played out to be. I remember last season he was supposed to be back after the bye week. If it has kept him out this long it was obviously more serious then a bad sprain. He will be back when he is ready and show why he is worth the contract he has. The most important quote in that whole article that made him look like he didn't give a shit about anyone but himself....." It never ceases to amaze me the things that go on here, but I'm here and I still love the Redskins. That's the bottom line." :headbange

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He's starting to sound like the TO gang-banger type.

Count me in as nervous.

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Does this mean Offiss and I get one nail taken out of the crosses we were put up on?

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Sick of the whining......BYE!! don't let the door hit you in the A*s on the wat out!!

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aehs - There's no way he's leaving. His contract is too massive to move. Not like anyone would traded for damaged goods anyways...

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ive always been in the minority of wanting to draft DJ and i think this just makes my case stronger. hes an amazing player and will make a huge impact in the NFL.

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LaVar is a good player but he likes running his mouth of like a great player. Little does he realize that it is his job to work his butt off to get back on the field ASAP.

I've lost 75% respect I had for him. If he leaves tomorrow I wouldn't be concerned one bit.

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If I remember right, Lavar wanted to hurry back and get on the field and he said the coaches wanted him to take it slow and easy to get back and he said he was ready to go but the coaches wanted him to take more time now hes singing a different tune.

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[QUOTE=Redskinsfaninnola]If I remember right, Lavar wanted to hurry back and get on the field and he said the coaches wanted him to take it slow and easy to get back and he said he was ready to go but the coaches wanted him to take more time now hes singing a different tune.[/QUOTE]

That is what is so funny to me about the article. Everyone knows that Lavar pushes himself to fight through these injuries and come back ahead of schedule. This fact did not start with this coaching staff. He is a great player that wants to prove himself so badly but is hurt and wants to blame someone. He is frustrated. When he gets back on the field, things will be better. I really don't care if they walk him through practices until mid-August. Thats 4 months more to recover from a surgery that he proclaimed would only hold him out for 2 weeks.

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I think he really wants to play and that's a good thing. but wining about no media attention is stupid.

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Gibbs is supposed to have a press conference on Tues, probably to squash this ridiculousness

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A little bit of Gibbs' side of this:

[url]http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2035032[/url]

Asked to comment on Arrington's remarks, Gibbs told The Associated Press that he's "always erred on the side of conservative" with Arrington.

"LaVar got mad at me last year because he said I was too conservative," Gibbs told the AP. "He wanted to play."

As for Arrington's claim that the three-time Pro Bowl linebacker didn't have the support of the coaching staff, Gibbs said Arrington was upset when making those comments because of the need to have the second surgery.

"LaVar was emotional and said some things," Gibbs said. "But LaVar knows that we've been conservative with him."

Gibbs said Arrington's second surgery was needed after some setbacks during recent offseason workouts at Redskins Park. Gibbs said Arrington had some "floating bodies" removed from the knee and also had some scar tissue trimmed.

Gibbs said the doctor feels Arrington will be fine by the time the season starts in September, but that the team will be "careful and cautious" with Arrington's rehabilitation for a couple of months.

Gibbs said he and Arrington spoke on the telephone for about 45 minutes Monday evening, but that Arrington did not repeat many of the concerns the linebacker had aired publicly only a few hours earlier. He said another meeting with Arrington is scheduled for Tuesday to "go over everything from A to Z" concerning Arrington's rehabilitation.

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Gibbs puts out another fire. Wow. Let's kiss and make up, please. And we need Lavar healthy and happy, especially now that Pierce is gone. Ack.

Funny how it's yet another negative thing from the Post. Not that they made Lavar say anything, I'm sure (he's said some weird stuff in the past, no doubt...), but I wonder if Gibbs is ever going to speak to them again, after this offseason! Every time he opens up the Post, Damasio or Jason what's-his-name is spilling the beans on some in-house trouble. And Tony Stewart's friggin wheel fell off during the race sunday. Tough week.

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And check out the skins.com article that instantly popped up. We love you Lavar! Go easy, big fella! (Maybe we'll trade him to the Jets for Vilma?) J/K!!!!

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Well, I feel a little bit better about the situation. I also felt Lavar was just venting alot of frustration with this setback. I can understand his frustration, but sometimes it's better to vent to someone else besides the media. Hopefully, Gibbs will talk with Arrington and put things back in perspective for him. We do need Arrington healthy and ready to play for us this year, and I feel when he is able to get out there and start playing football, he'll look back on this and probably laugh about it! :-)

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Seriously, people turned on LaVar damn quick before knowing the facts. Taylor is already wanting a new contract and no one is ready to crucify him yet (not saying we should, but let's give people a break before we know the facts).

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The Post article (or should I say block quote) was hilarious. You could almost visualize Lavar breathing hard and getting worked up. Several times he is talking himself down and trying to calm down. I've been in situations like that. Pissed off and spouting whatever coems to mind. I sure am glad no one is following me with a tape recorder. I agree with Gibbs, he'll be fine by tomorrow. This is a blip.

Anyone else notice they have already updated the Post article to include some more balanced info from Gibbs and the doctor? I guess they just wanted the scoop and are now cleaning up the mess.

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[QUOTE=FARAPS]ive always been in the minority of wanting to draft DJ and i think this just makes my case stronger. hes an amazing player and will make a huge impact in the NFL.[/QUOTE]
minority, well i guess i was part of it i just felt there was absolutly positively no way but now..... possibly. I mean we are blessed at olb and we don't need to add positions we don't need. I always liked him and he says that his favorite players are lavar and Lewis, many have compared him to lavar. If lavar can't play then sure go get him but if lavar can why add more to what we have expecially when lavar and marcus got good years left. that is why we tackle the cb.


wow it is oin fox news right now! they said gibbs has a press conference tommorow to address the issue

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If anyone thinks this is about anything other than the 6.8 million Lavar claims Snyder ripped him off, they are kidding themselves! I remember reading the article last year when he made his claims and knew right then that things were never going to be the same with Lavar. The fact of the matter is that Lavar's agent handed him a contract and told him he went over it and it was everything that they had asked for, after signing Lavar realized the 6.8 million bonus wasn't included. If he has a problem with anyone it should be his agent!

Here's my take on the situation:
Lavar decides to have a minor knee scope, which could have waited, during the season just to spite Snyder. He had no intentions whatsoever of playing last year until he saw how well the Defense was playing without him and got worried. Now he is blowing up over a routine follow up surgery because nobody ran to hold his hand. He's just pissed that his grievance hearing was postponed. If 68 million is not enough to make you feel loved what the hell is it going to take? Another 6.8 mil is what!

And if any teammate didn't hear about his surgery last year they must be living in a cave!

You are right about the Post putting a negative twist on everything, tho. They are mad that the Skins revoked 120 season ticket packages from them because the were scalping them. Now they have to buy their tickets like everybody else. Boo Hoo! So maybe I should give Lavar the benefit of the doubt, a person easily can be quoted to come off sounding anyway the writer wishes, but it sure sounds like that they didn't have to put much of a twist on those words.

If Lavar thinks that any self respecting Redskins fan is going to take his side over Coach Gibbs he needs to stop kidding himself. If this soap opera is going to become a distraction we need to shop him around. Recent surgery or no, someone will be willing to take him off our hands because he is such a monster player. I really wish we had resigned Antonio.

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[QUOTE=TheMalcolmConnection]Seriously, people turned on LaVar damn quick before knowing the facts. Taylor is already wanting a new contract and no one is ready to crucify him yet (not saying we should, but let's give people a break before we know the facts).[/QUOTE]


That's why I was careful not to jump to conclusions before I heard more of the story. I felt Lavar was just whinning to the media and he was. He was frustrated, but he'll learn as he matures that going to the media everytime something goes wrong doesn't do the team or himself any favors. I'm confident after his meeting with Gibbs, cooler heads will prevail and the honeymoon will continue. :biggthump

Sorry Daseal, but no matter how much we disagree with you, there is only one man who was able to carry the cross and be crucified for us. :)

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I hope your right! Lavar needs to settle down and be the next career Redskin.

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Offiss?

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I just bought an Arrington authentic yesterday, lol. i was going to buy two but looks like ill keep it at one for the time being

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I'm going to wait until we get some more facts before I really react to this, but LaVars quotes were not too inspiring. Hopefully he was just having a bad day or somthing; but the media is hopefully just playing it off bigger than it really is.

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[QUOTE]Matty wrote, LaVar is the kind of player that needs a pat on the back once in a while. He's frustrated by being a spectator and he wants to be in the middle of the action (and the attention).[/QUOTE]

A pat on the back? How bout a good swift kick in the A**!


And it's nice to see he's still whining about the 6.5 mil he thinks he's got coming, as if he's not vastly overpaid to begin with.

I guess it's everyone else's fault he has an injury, and Gibbs fault he's not a surgeon.

I really have to say I didn't see anything last year that would lead me to believe he was rushed back to soon, it's not like our defense needed him, maybe he felt Marshall was outplaying him and hurting the creditability of his 6.5 mil dollar grevience, so he rushed himself back.

Personally I think Lavar is a legend in his own mind, all Hype.


Don't worry Daseal I wouldn't hang you out to dry. :biggthump
I was bowling all night.

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Will the real LaVar Arrington please shut up?

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I am really starting to worry about the mental state of LaVar . Not so long ago he was making statements about having made up with the FO maybe dropping his grievence then tunring round amd lashing out at them again. Now this.

He really needs to look at who is whispering in his ears because the advice he is getting is real bad . Now he is flling a grievence with the NFLPA for being forced back too soon but their is nothing to back that up . Look at how the team handled Jansen, Barrow, Thomas and Daniels nothing but conservative . Thomas pushed himself to get back other played injured all year because they are NFL players .

Arrington seems determined to make himself this teams posterboy for bad attitude and drive a wedge between him the team and ultimatly the fans . He IS in my oppinion over rated and free lances far too much and was responsible for a number of key plays notably blowing the coverage on Jim Flinn in the loss against the Giants in OT a couple of years back .

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Does anyone think this tirade about the 6.5million and his knees might go hand in hand because he knows he only has a very limited time to play well because of a bad diagnosis from the doc and he is trying to get every cent now?

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He's been a pain in the A** since we drafted him, he refused to sign off on the rights to his name so the NFL could market him, as if he was something special and should recieve more than everyone else, and now he's having fantasies about additional bonus money on top of the overwhelming amount he recieved, and won't let it go even though everyone who has seen the contract say's there's nothing there for Lavar to hang his hat on, personally I just think he or the Postens really aren't remotly qualified to be negotiating mega contracts and are now trying to blame skins management for something that I have to believe could have and should have never been offered considering the size of his contract to begin with.

Aprius, to answer your question, I don't know if he would actually milk his knee for more money? But he has had surgeries so the injury is legitamite, but the fact is he never stop's YAPPING about money, and I am tired of hearing a player who doesn't deserve what he's already getting, whine about more!