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MTK 08-31-2014 01:43 PM

Duke Ihenacho claimed by Redskins
 
[url=http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/08/31/duke-ihenacho-claimed-by-redskins/]Duke Ihenacho claimed by Redskins | ProFootballTalk[/url]

could be a nice pickup, sounds like he got squeezed out in a numbers game in Denver

JoLo 08-31-2014 01:51 PM

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Yea Tj ward signing looks to have pushed him out. I feel like every Denver game I watched last year this guy popped out to me. Always saw him around the ball making tackles

CRedskinsRule 08-31-2014 01:52 PM

Re: Duke Ihenacho claimed by Redskins
 
[QUOTE=JoLo;1079740]Yea Tj ward signing looks to have pushed him out. I feel like every Denver game I watched last year this guy popped out to me. Always saw him around the ball making tackles[/QUOTE]
It was a subliminal thing you saw him, wanted nachos, good thing happen you want nachos.

JoLo 08-31-2014 01:54 PM

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Where do you guys think he will fit into the rotation. Will he start at SS while BM sits out the first two? Or do you think Rambo still will start there alongside Clark?

CRedskinsRule 08-31-2014 02:01 PM

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He and Rambo will Duke it out for the SS position. Don't know if Rambo is good enough to draw First Blood.

CRedskinsRule 08-31-2014 02:02 PM

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Seriously though this may be Merriweathers replacement. Just can't trust him or the league for 16 games.

JoeRedskin 08-31-2014 02:21 PM

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[QUOTE=CRedskinsRule;1079744]He and Rambo will Duke it out for the SS position. Don't know if Rambo is good enough to draw [b]First Blood.[/b][/QUOTE]

Soooo terribly bad.

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NC_Skins 08-31-2014 03:10 PM

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Let's just cut Meriweather and call it a day. Thanks.

Schneed10 08-31-2014 03:52 PM

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either way good depth grab. whether he starts or not he's a guy with good experience. it will be a matter of how quickly he can learn the system. our safeties have to flex between free and strong throughout the game depending on formations and motions. But even if he's not ready for week 1 as a starter with us, he's someone that can offer better depth than akeem davis

81forHOF 08-31-2014 05:35 PM

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Really like this pick up. Young with starting experience. Has played in big games. Nice.
I still see Rambo starting week one. Supposedly, he is our most improved player.

Ruhskins 08-31-2014 06:37 PM

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[quote=CRedskinsRule;1079744]He and Rambo will Duke it out for the SS position. Don't know if [B]Rambo is good enough to draw First Blood[/B].[/quote]

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Chico23231 08-31-2014 06:54 PM

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I endorse this move

Irrefutable 08-31-2014 07:35 PM

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can he learn the defense in one week ?

mlmdub130 08-31-2014 07:39 PM

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[QUOTE=JoeRedskin;1079751]Soooo terribly bad.

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In such a good way.

Really like the move, young guy with proven ability.

Lotus 08-31-2014 07:40 PM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1079772]can he learn the defense in one week ?[/quote]

Let's hope he can learn quickly.

This is not a permanent fix but it still is a good move.

Redskin Warrior 08-31-2014 09:23 PM

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I was watching the Dallas-Denver preseason game Ihenacho was thumping the Cowgirls. I'm excited to have him here in DC.

Alvin Walton 08-31-2014 09:29 PM

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Mmmmm...nachos

Skins4L 09-01-2014 06:34 AM

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This was an excellent pickup. Welcome to the squad your all gonna like this guy this year im very familiar with Duke.

Schneed10 09-01-2014 09:03 AM

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By the way just wanted to note, it's not often a waiver pickup helps in the NFL but this could be the exception.

KI Skins Fan 09-01-2014 10:10 AM

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[quote=Schneed10;1079834]By the way just wanted to note, it's not often a waiver pickup helps in the NFL but this could be the exception.[/quote]

I agree. He's a solid SS and he is also very good on ST. The Broncos were just very rich in SS's.

He's our kind of player in that he plays with passion, which I think is about to become our team's identity under Jay Gruden.

MTK 09-01-2014 10:14 AM

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I recall our game in Denver last year and hearing this guy's name several times. At worst he improves our depth, if he can be a solid starter that's just all gravy.

NYCskinfan82 09-01-2014 11:26 AM

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Read this article thought it was a nice read, what do you think.

[url=http://walkingdeadmanblog.blogspot.com/2014/09/how-hard-is-it-for-redskins-find.html]IT IS WHAT IT IS...........: How Hard Is It For The Redskins Find A Starting Safety?[/url]

Chico23231 09-01-2014 11:46 AM

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[quote=NYCskinfan82;1079863]Read this article thought it was a nice read, what do you think.

[url=http://walkingdeadmanblog.blogspot.com/2014/09/how-hard-is-it-for-redskins-find.html]IT IS WHAT IT IS...........: How Hard Is It For The Redskins Find A Starting Safety?[/url][/quote]

Sure its been tough. My general feeling is with our starters and depth is the safety position is in the best shape in a long time. That's not saying much but if we can get average to above average play its gonna be a huge help to the defense.

Skinsfanatic 09-01-2014 12:20 PM

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Brandon Merriweather: I am worried about the safety position in Weeks 1 and 2.

Duke Ihenacho: It's nacho problem.

rbanerjee23 09-01-2014 07:26 PM

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I think it's a fantastic pickup and it's really nice the Redskins were able to make this move. This is the kind of savvy move the Pats, Broncos, or Packers make so it's nice it was us. It would have been tough for us to get worse in the secondary so a solid, young player who can at least give us depth if not be an outright starter is a heckuva move.

Irrefutable 09-01-2014 08:39 PM

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FWIW

Chris Russel says he cannot cover anyone..... Alvin Walton 2.0 ?

Ruhskins 09-01-2014 08:48 PM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1079908]FWIW

Chris Russel says he cannot cover anyone..... Alvin Walton 2.0 ?[/quote]

Wasn't Chris Russel supposed to quit when the Redskins got DJax?

Chico23231 09-01-2014 08:53 PM

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[quote=Ruhskins;1079909]Wasn't Chris Russel supposed to quit when the Redskins got DJax?[/quote]

Lol y'all folks up in the beltway wouldn't be so lucky. That guy is terrible

Lotus 09-01-2014 08:58 PM

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[quote=Irrefutable;1079908]FWIW

Chris Russel says he cannot cover anyone..... Alvin Walton 2.0 ?[/quote]

For once Russel is a little right, Duke does struggle in coverage. At least Duke will put people on the ground. We have few options.

Alvin Walton 09-01-2014 09:05 PM

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[quote=Skinsfanatic;1079877]Brandon Merriweather: I am worried about the safety position in Weeks 1 and 2.

Duke Ihenacho: It's nacho problem.[/quote]

golf clap

ethat001 09-01-2014 11:55 PM

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Love the potential for Ihenacho.. But I'm hoping he's not another Rambo.. As Lotus mentioned, his weakness seems to be coverage, I guess that works okay if we use him at strong safety.


Here's stuff from Denver:

[QUOTE]
Ihenacho seemed to be on the losing end, any time a ball was thrown his way. If there was a key first down, or TD, it seemed to come at his expense. As much as Ihenacho thrives in the box, close to the line of scrimmage, he’s a liability in coverage.... Per ProFootballFocus, Ihenacho earned a -6.9 overall grade and a pitiful -6.3 in pass coverage last year, as he started 18 of the Broncos 19 games, including playoffs.

[url=http://predominantlyorange.com/2014/07/31/duke-ihenacho-firmly-broncos-roster-bubble/]Duke Ihenacho "Firmly On The Broncos Roster Bubble"? - Predominantly Orange - A Denver Broncos Fan Site - News, Blogs, Opinion and more.[/url]
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Dirtbag59 09-02-2014 12:17 AM

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At first glance I thought his number was 73 and that we had brought in another offensive lineman. Then I looked at the numbers on his shoulder and was like 'oh 33.' From that angle he kind of looked the part of a tackle.
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[QUOTE=ethat001;1079917]Love the potential for Ihenacho.. But I'm hoping he's not another Rambo.. As Lotus mentioned, his weakness seems to be coverage, I guess that works okay if we use him at strong safety.


Here's stuff from Denver:[/QUOTE]


Lol, back in the 80's safeties who could play in the box as a 4th or 5th linebacker like Laron Landry were practically future hall of famers, and guys like Nacho and Rambo were usually early draft picks that were safe bets to go to a pro bowl or two. These days they're considered bubble players and drafted either late or not at all.

On the coverage front though there is this:
[QUOTE]In the 2013 offseason, Ihenacho began turning heads, showing very good cover skills and run stopping abilities. In the first released depth chart, Ihenacho climbed all the way to the number two spot for strong safety, pushing Mike Adams for the starting job. In the Broncos' first 2013 preseason game against the San Francisco 49ers, Ihenacho was in with the starters and led the team with 7 tackles, one being for a loss, and also had a forced fumble, which Rahim Moore recovered.
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Then again thats just an excerpt from his wiki page without a specific source being cited.

Schneed10 09-02-2014 08:25 AM

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A player on the waiver wire is not going to be a team savior, but focus on the positive here. This dude can tackle and he takes strong angles. If you remember our defense last year, a sound tackler is an upgrade.

If he's in the game we'd want to try to use Clark as the FS. Normally the FS and SS are interchangeable in our scheme but I'm sure Haslett can figure out how to tweak it and cover for his deficiencies.

But honestly I'd let Rambo have a shot here anyway. If he's improved like we think, Ryan Fitzpatrick and an older Andre Johnson are a good way to ease into things.

KI Skins Fan 09-02-2014 09:05 AM

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With Meriweather suspended and Thomas hurt we needed a SS. We weren't going to get an All-Pro off the cut list. Ihenacho is a former starter and he is also a good ST player. I'm pleased with this pickup and I'm looking forward to seeing him play.

Chico23231 09-02-2014 09:18 AM

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[quote=Schneed10;1079947]A player on the waiver wire is not going to be a team savior, but focus on the positive here. This dude can tackle and he takes strong angles. If you remember our defense last year, a sound tackler is an upgrade.

If he's in the game we'd want to try to use Clark as the FS. Normally the FS and SS are interchangeable in our scheme but I'm sure Haslett can figure out how to tweak it and cover for his deficiencies.

But honestly I'd let Rambo have a shot here anyway. If he's improved like we think, Ryan Fitzpatrick and an older Andre Johnson are a good way to ease into things.[/quote]

this.

over the mountain 09-02-2014 11:03 AM

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[quote=ethat001;1079917]Love the potential for Ihenacho.. But I'm hoping he's not another Rambo.. As Lotus mentioned, his weakness seems to be coverage, I guess that works okay if we use him at strong safety.


Here's stuff from Denver:[/quote]

when i see a secondary player with high tackle numbers, im worried they dont react/read plays well and are usually a step late to make a play on the ball but there for the tackle.

i am very happy we signed this guy but what we need is a sideline-to-sideline FS which i think, in the current passing NFL, is now one of the most important positions on either side of the ball.

i fear a lot of our d schemes are going to be hog-tied bc our corners are going to need help on top but our safeties arent very good to begin with so are we going to play tampa 2 all day? i guarantee the side of the field w/out safety help is the side of the field that will be picked on and repeatedly abused.

Schneed10 09-02-2014 11:56 AM

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[quote=over the mountain;1079970][B]when i see a secondary player with high tackle numbers, im worried they dont react/read plays well and are usually a step late to make a play on the ball but there for the tackle. [/B]

i am very happy we signed this guy but what we need is a sideline-to-sideline FS which i think, in the current passing NFL, is now one of the most important positions on either side of the ball.

i fear a lot of our d schemes are going to be hog-tied bc our corners are going to need help on top but our safeties arent very good to begin with so are we going to play tampa 2 all day? i guarantee the side of the field w/out safety help is the side of the field that will be picked on and repeatedly abused.[/quote]

Re: the bolded, that's more a function of a front 7 not doing its job than anything else.

CRedskinsRule 09-02-2014 12:10 PM

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Hey Schneed, I know I oughta ask in a better thread, but I looked at Overthecap.com and we had like 200K over. Any ideas on where we stand now that rule of 51 is not in effect?

Hog1 09-02-2014 10:16 PM

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His name is "Duke"?
He HAS to be good......

KI Skins Fan 09-03-2014 04:58 AM

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[quote=Hog1;1080052]His name is "Duke"?
He HAS to be good......[/quote]

That's what I'm thinking! Now that we have a Duke and a Rambo in our secondary, If few can sign a Clint and a Rock we'll be set. It's all about the tough guy names.


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