Ravens release Ray Rice
 

This should've happened a couple of months ago, but at least it happened.

[url]https://twitter.com/Ravens/status/509043216977371136[/url]

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I don't think the Ravens really had a choice. How do you keep the guy after the public has seen that video?

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Better late than never.

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[url=http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000391538/article/baltimore-ravens-release-ray-rice]Ray Rice released by Baltimore Ravens - NFL.com[/url]

Beat me to it. That video is just wow.

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[quote=SirLK26;1081588]I don't think the Ravens really had a choice. How do you keep the guy after the public has seen that video?[/quote]

This. Public outcry can play a huge part if the outcry is large enough.

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He lost the support of his teammates too.

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The cynical side of me is sure someone will have him on a roster next year. Ravens will have to eat 9-10 million dollars of Cap space next year.

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They should have did this back when they saw the video months ago. They are only doing it due to the public backlash of seeing it. His wife's story didn't jive with that she instigated it.

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Greg Aiello ‏@gregaiello
Roger Goodell has announced that based on new video evidence that became available today he has
indefinitely suspended Ray Rice.

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Fox is a piece of shit, but how in the fuck could they have the audacity to say this.

[url=http://www.mediaite.com/tv/fox-friends-joke-about-rice-video-the-message-is-take-the-stairs/]Fox & Friends Joke about Rice Video: ‘The Message Is: Take the Stairs’ | Mediaite[/url]

[quote]“The message is, take the stairs,” Kilmeade said.

“The message is, when you’re in an elevator, there’s a camera,” Steve Doocy said.[/quote]


:doh:

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Ravens on Rice: "We were totally okay with RR clobbering his wife until after you all watched it on video."

twitter@zinsernyt

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[quote=NC_Skins;1081595]They should have did this back when they saw the video months ago. They are only doing it due to the public backlash of seeing it. His wife's story didn't jive [B]with that she instigated it.[/B][/quote]

Shhhhhhhhh. Don't tell Stephen A. Smith

[URL="http://youtu.be/IDzWvHhgTrY"]Stephen A Smith to Women: ‘Don’t Do Anything to Provoke’ Men Into Beating You[/URL]

It's still a very melancholy feeling though. Being able to say I told you so to so many people who played the 'you weren't there, you didn't see what happened' card seems like it should be more satisfying. Instead I feel rather disgusted after seeing that video.

I do believe the NFL's claim that they hadn't seen the video until recently though.

Article from February:
[url=http://www.si.com/nfl/2014/02/20/ray-rice-baltimore-ravens-assault-police]Source: Police have video of alleged assault involving Ray Rice - NFL - SI.com[/url]

Still it was pretty obvious based on the original evidence that this offense was much worse than a 2 game ban.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1081601]Ravens on Rice: "We were totally okay with RR clobbering his wife until after you all watched it on video."

twitter@zinsernyt[/quote]

[quote=Hijinx;1081598]Greg Aiello ‏@gregaiello
Roger Goodell has announced that based on new video evidence that became available today he has
indefinitely suspended Ray Rice.[/quote]


These guys are such a fucking joke. They really are. Much like the NCAA on Penn State.

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Before the Ray Rice saga began, who knew that we'd all be criticizing Goodell for being too lenient?

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I can not believe Espn just went to a Fantasy Football guru to talk about the impact of Rice's release.

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To me, the outrage over the video is somewhat naïve. I mean really, do you know the force it takes to knock someone unconscious? Even for few moments? For someone, anyone, to be turned into a sack of potatoes like the fiancé was, that takes some serious, brutal force. To me, the video is what I thought had happened. (In my younger days, I knocked guys out once or twice and each time my fist hurt like hell).

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Andrew Brandt ‏@adbrandt 21m
Ray Rice is NOT entitled to 2014 salary as a vested veteran. Must be on 53-man roster at season start; he was on the suspended list.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1081606]To me, the outrage over the video is somewhat naïve. I mean really, do you know the force it takes to knock someone unconscious? Even for few moments? For someone, anyone, to be turned into a sack of potatoes like the fiancé was, that takes some serious, brutal force. To me, the video is what I thought had happened. (In my younger days, I knocked guys out once or twice and each time my fist hurt like hell).[/quote]

don't you mean they slipped and fell into your fists?

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I bet those ravens fans who gave him a standing ovation at training camp and during their preseason games are feeling a little guilty right now.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1081606]To me, the outrage over the video is somewhat naïve. I mean really, do you know the force it takes to knock someone unconscious? Even for few moments? For someone, anyone, to be turned into a sack of potatoes like the fiancé was, that takes some serious, brutal force. To me, the video is what I thought had happened. (In my younger days, I knocked guys out once or twice and each time my fist hurt like hell).[/quote]

When the story was first told it sounded more like he pushed her and she hit her head. That was the story Rice and his wife were saying. You can in the video see her hitting her head. Plus there wasn't a picture of her face with damage.

Because the prosecutor went so light on him, the NFL sent so light on him, and that was both of their stories I really didn't expect a punch like that.

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I don't know why coming across stuff like this surprises me anymore:
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[quote]RayZ fox 31 minutes ago
She clearly came at him 0:33. He was backed into a corner.
Reply · 18 Likes[/quote]

[quote]MeqaMayne10 minutes ago
Lol she deserved it too be honest. She knew he was an athlete and that he was physically stronger, yet she still had the audacity to strike him not once but three times?? Even if Ray could've restrained her him hitting her was warranted cause she hit him. The woman should've figured what could've happened.
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[quote]Fredrick biggers 6 minutes ago
Thatd what she gets, all that she is just a women bullshit is trash, maybe some of your mothers were abused or something but the fact of the matter is a lady should know her lane, she should know when to shut the fuck up. He pays the bills so she should shut up and if she cant stand it just leave. She had it coming. Wanna act like a man you gunna get treated like a man.
Reply · [/quote]
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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;1081609]I bet those ravens fans who gave him a standing ovation at training camp and during their preseason games are feeling a little guilty right now.[/quote]

I'm willing to bet that those fans are using the exact same backwards rationalization methods as the geniuses in the quoted post I got from YouTube.

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Hopefully his career is over. His play was already trending down and he's nearing 30. Now with all this drama who would want him?

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[quote=ArtMonkDrillz;1081609]I bet those ravens fans who gave him a standing ovation at training camp and during their preseason games are feeling a little guilty right now.[/quote]

You've lived in Baltimore, right? I've said it before - there is a significant part of the Ravens' fan population that are simply Eagle fan wannabees.

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[quote=Hijinx;1081611]When the story was first told it sounded more like he pushed her and she hit her head. That was the story Rice and his wife were saying. You can in the video see her hitting her head. Plus there wasn't a picture of her face with damage.

Because the prosecutor went so light on him, the NFL sent so light on him, and that was both of their stories I really didn't expect a punch like that.[/quote]

I guess. I hope that is the explanation.

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[url=http://deadspin.com/someone-is-lying-about-whether-the-nfl-saw-the-ray-rice-1631901404]Someone Is Lying About Whether The NFL Saw The Ray Rice Tape[/url]

Here's SI's Peter King, back in July:

There is one other thing I did not write or refer to, and that is the other videotape the NFL and some Ravens officials have seen, from the security camera inside the elevator at the time of the physical altercation between Rice and his fiancée.

And here's ESPN's Chris Mortensen, also from July.

We saw the TMZ video of what happened outside—when he was dragging her out unconscious—but inside, I'm told from those who have seen the video, it wasn't pretty. In fact, she attacks him—we don't know the reason why—and he strikes her, strikes her hard. And her head—according to the sources I've spoken to—struck the rail inside the elevator and she was unconscious.

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[quote=Mattyk;1081613]Hopefully his career is over. His play was already trending down and he's nearing 30. Now with all this drama who would want him?[/quote]

Raider's ,bet he'll be back next year after counseling and a fine .

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Should the commish have to answer for his handling of the investigation

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[quote=over the mountain;1081618][url=http://deadspin.com/someone-is-lying-about-whether-the-nfl-saw-the-ray-rice-1631901404]Someone Is Lying About Whether The NFL Saw The Ray Rice Tape[/url]

Here's SI's Peter King, back in July:

There is one other thing I did not write or refer to, and that is the other videotape the NFL and some Ravens officials have seen, from the security camera inside the elevator at the time of the physical altercation between Rice and his fiancée.

And here's ESPN's Chris Mortensen, also from July.

We saw the TMZ video of what happened outside—when he was dragging her out unconscious—but inside, I'm told from those who have seen the video, it wasn't pretty. In fact, she attacks him—we don't know the reason why—and he strikes her, strikes her hard. And her head—according to the sources I've spoken to—struck the rail inside the elevator and she was unconscious.[/quote]

The NFL lied???

[YT][ame]www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjbPi00k_ME[/ame][/YT]

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[quote=Chico23231;1081621]Should the commish have to answer for his handling of the investigation[/quote]

Him and the Ravens organization.

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[quote=JoeRedskin;1081615]You've lived in Baltimore, right? I've said it before - there is a significant part of the Ravens' fan population that are simply Eagle fan wannabees.[/quote]Yeah, their reactions to him didn't surprise me at all. Ravens fans (not all, obviously, but a vocal portion of them) will support anything their players do but will jump all over the slightest perceived slight against them.
I was just shocked that my coworker, the biggest ravens ball licker ever, actually agreed with them releasing him. But sure enough, the fact that rice didn't play particularly well in '13 played into his opinion.

I know we all give passes to our guys to a certain extent, but this is the same fan base that worships ray lewis, a guy who very likely had a hand in the murder of two men.

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[quote=Mattyk;1081613]Hopefully his career is over. His play was already trending down and he's nearing 30. Now with all this drama who would want him?[/quote]

per Greg Aiello, Goodell has now imposed an indefinite ban based on "new evidence".

The "new evidence" being the outrage expressed by the public after viewing what the NFL had already seen.

Goodell: "Ohhhhh. Man, I guess I didn't think it was all [I]that[/I] wrong. I mean, the abuse victim said it was her fault. Who knew? My bad."

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[quote=Ruhskins;1081623]Him and the Ravens organization.[/quote]

Based on how non-Raven players are reacting I'm guessing that there's more than a few players on the Ravens who have been outright embarrassed at how the team defended Ray Rice long before this latest video was released.

[url=http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24701021/current-former-nfl-players-tweet-out-intense-criticism-of-ray-rice]Ray Rice video: NFL players, alums express anger toward Ravens RB - CBSSports.com[/url]

Oh by the by, our very own London Fletcher hit the nail right on the head.
[quote][I][B]London Fletcher ✔ @LFletcher59[/B][/I]
@nflcommish to say you got that wrong is an understatement. Very disappointed in you. Wow...unbelievable.
[I]8:11 AM - 8 Sep 2014[/I][/quote]

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[quote=Hijinx;1081605]I can not believe Espn just went to a Fantasy Football guru to talk about the impact of Rice's release.[/quote]

Lol of course.

#fail


Hey does everyone remember how arrogant harbaugh appeared when addressing this situation? He got a lotta 'xplaining to do too.

Thinking there is a good chance both harbaugh bros could be in the college game next season

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[B]Janay Rice says she deeply regrets the role that she played the night of the incident.
— Baltimore Ravens (@Ravens)[/B]


Remember this gem tweet? It was still up for most of the day until sometime this afternoon. Guess their PR finally decided....hey, maybe this was a dumbass idea.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1081655][B]Janay Rice says she deeply regrets the role that she played the night of the incident.
— Baltimore Ravens (@Ravens)[/B]


Remember this gem tweet? It was still up for most of the day until sometime this afternoon. Guess their PR finally decided....hey, maybe this was a dumbass idea.[/quote]

I'm sorry I ended up as a punching bag. Boy, if that isn't a battered woman I don't know what is. She better start figuring out divorce papers before the money dries up.

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[quote=DynamiteRave;1081657]I'm sorry I ended up as a punching bag. Boy, if that isn't a battered woman I don't know what is. She better start figuring out divorce papers before the money dries up.[/quote]

Question I posed to SS today is do you really think this incident was the first time he's hit her? His demeanor in all of it seems like it's natural to him. (during and after)

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I'd bet the house it's not the first time he hit her, or someone else. Hitting someone so brutally like that typically isn't a one time deal.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1081659]Question I posed to SS today is do you really think this incident was the first time he's hit her? His demeanor in all of it seems like it's natural to him. (during and after)[/quote]

And her, too. She seems practiced in the excuses of the codependent beaten.

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[quote=NC_Skins;1081659]Question I posed to SS today is do you really think this incident was the first time he's hit her? His demeanor in all of it seems like it's natural to him. (during and after)[/quote]

This is something I was wondering too. From all accounts it seemed like Ray Rice was a positive role model before this incident, does anybody know if this is uncharacteristic of him or is this one of those "nobody knows the guy behind the scenes" deals? Either way, with a hit like that, he deserves all the scorn thrown his way.

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This may have already been posted if so oops. WTF did the league think happened, what did they think a guy knocking out his wif/gf was gonna look like. fn weirdos abound.

[url=http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/early-lead/wp/2014/09/08/nfl-players-and-broadcasters-react-to-ray-rice-being-cut-by-the-ravens-and-suspended-by-the-nfl/]NFL players and broadcasters react to Ray Rice being cut by the Ravens and suspended by the NFL - The Washington Post[/url]